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 Willo  South coast - west of Brighton. 03 May 17 8.54am |
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Originally posted by legaleagle
I fear it was not the Brentmiester who was spouting the proverbial hogwash but our own "national treasure ", Mr Willo. From that left wing rag The Telegraph,February 2017: "Breaking point is becoming “the norm” for the NHS, with 15,000 beds cut from hospitals in the space of six years. The fall amounts to one in ten beds being lost, and has prompted warnings about patient safety amid rising pressure on the health service. The British Medical Association yesterday said that the decrease in beds was directly contributing to long waits in crowded A&E departments. ...The BMA report also pointed to a steep rise in the rate of emergency re-admissions, which the organisation said indicated that patients are being discharged from hospital before too quickly. “The UK already has the second lowest number of hospital beds per head in Europe per head and these figures paint an even bleaker picture of an NHS that is at breaking point,” said BMA council chair Dr Mark Porter. "Failures within the social care system are also having a considerable knock-on effect on an already stretched and underfunded NHS. “When social care isn’t available, patients experience delays in moving from hospital to appropriate social care settings which damages patient care and places a significant strain on the NHS.” And that's the score after only 7 years of our delightful "friends" in power and before before our post-Brexit US trade deal allows US medical vultures to start putting the knife into the NHS.. in pursuit of the mighty dollar. I totally accept there are pressures in the NHS and have been for several years yet to say that the NHS will be "Abolished" under the Conservatives is total and utter baloney, the type one hears from the likes of Corbyn and his comrades.
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| legaleagle 03 May 17 8.56am |
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Not abolished,just gutted and the entrails devoured by Americans
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 03 May 17 9.09am |
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Originally posted by legaleagle
Not abolished,just gutted and the entrails devoured by Americans Are you referring to Cameron's involvement in the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership, a series of trade negotiations being carried out mostly in secret between the EU and US? Now that we are free of Cameron, and the tentacles of the EU, it should no longer be a problem.
We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell] |
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| legaleagle 03 May 17 9.14am |
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No,I am not.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 03 May 17 9.23am |
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Originally posted by legaleagle
No,I am not. Theresa May has said, “The NHS will never be part of a trade deal and will always remain free at the point of delivery.”
We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell] |
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 03 May 17 9.38am |
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Originally posted by Willo
Total and utter hogwash.
Sorry but it's looking bad. Jeremy Hunt writes about privatising the NHS and is made health secretary. It certainly does appear that they're driving it down and winding it down so people are tempted over to private health care. Eventually that'll create those who can and those who can't afford it. I've heard plenty of NHS workers feel this is what's happening. People who've worked in the NHS for years over different governments. I know who I'd rather believe. There are plenty taking zero care or thought of their health who rely on the NHS to catch them, costing fortunes that could be spent on the unlucky. I'd rather they were given fair warning that safety net will end in a few years than wind it down for all, which I reckon might be inevitable given the advancements in medicine and surgery. Side note:- I suppose the ageing population and population growth needs addressing. Too many costly obese people and old people being kept alive with zero quality of life. East Europeans here will be okay. You don't see any obese east Europeans.
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Y Ddraig Goch  In The Crowd 03 May 17 10.05am |
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made me smile
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Attachment:  Hrolf The Ganger 03 May 17 10.56am |
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Originally posted by legaleagle
Not abolished,just gutted and the entrails devoured by Americans An election would not be the same without Labour's claim that the Tories are trying to end the NHS. It never happens of course and in fact, Labour have done as much to damage it as anyone.
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Kermit8  Hevon 03 May 17 11.22am |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Theresa May has said, “The NHS will never be part of a trade deal and will always remain free at the point of delivery.” She also said, 6 times, "i will not hold a snap general election"
Big chest and massive boobs |
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 03 May 17 11.30am |
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When you sell something it may get sold off to someone else. [Link] Almost 600million difference between what we sold to Americans for and what Chinese paid Americans.
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| Username Horsham 03 May 17 11.32am |
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Originally posted by Willo
Total and utter hogwash.
Have you been asleep for the past five or six years? Does the name Jeremy Hunt mean anything to you?
Employee of the month is a good example of how someone can be both a winner and a loser at the same time. |
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| Hrolf The Ganger 03 May 17 11.52am |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Whilst the world has been looking at the Dianne Abbott dead cat, this has sneaked under the radar (or just not reported - laundering money won't go down well with the electorate or non dom but know what's best for Britain press barons) Good to see the Labour minions running a positive campaign. Squeak, squeak. The ship is sinking.
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| Kermit8 Hevon 03 May 17 11.54am |
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No-one is expecting a Hung Parliament so I am going for that and hoping for it too. Edited by Kermit8 (03 May 2017 11.55am)
Big chest and massive boobs |
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 03 May 17 12.16pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Good to see the Labour minions running a positive campaign. Squeak, squeak. The ship is sinking. No thoughts on the content. Quelle Surprise.
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| Mr_Gristle In the land of Whelk Eaters 03 May 17 12.43pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Theresa May has said, “The NHS will never be part of a trade deal and will always remain free at the point of delivery.” She also said that she would not hold a snap election. Oops - beaten to it. Edited by Mr_Gristle (03 May 2017 12.43pm)
Well I think Simon's head is large; always involved in espionage. (Name that tune) |
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 03 May 17 12.53pm |
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Same as it ever was.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 03 May 17 1.32pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
No-one is expecting a Hung Parliament so I am going for that and hoping for it too. Edited by Kermit8 (03 May 2017 11.55am) On practically any matter, you go unerringly for the option that is least in the interests of the country.
We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell] |
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| Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 03 May 17 1.38pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Same as it ever was. Interesting that you pick something that is clearly as biased as the so called MSM Abbott was as bad an interview as you could hear. Big fanfare 10,000 new police, Shadow Home Secretary makes an absolute balls up. Of course that is news. Even after making a balls up coming out with "misspoke" just adds fuel to the fire. The safe space reports is the left's take on what happened. Essentially she is being careful, given their lead and when you see what happened to Farron can you blame her? The media ARE frustrated with Labour HQ, poor or no responses to questions submitted by the media and the allegedly obstructive behaviour does no favours. They need to up their game, Blair whatever you think of him, ran very slick media campaigns
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| elgrande bedford 03 May 17 1.46pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
When you sell something it may get sold off to someone else. [Link] Almost 600million difference between what we sold to Americans for and what Chinese paid Americans. Labour under Blair began the process of introducing private companies into the nhs.
always a Norwood boy, where ever I live. |
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