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pefwin Flag Where you have to have an English ... 11 Mar 18 3.17pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


But no one saw 911 coming and the resolution of the Bush family to correct the original mistake.


Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Mar 2018 2.54pm)

At last we disagree (I feel clean again ), the FBI et al, was too internally focused on the right wing after Waco, the Oklahoma City bombing, etc..

They forgot the 1997 Empire State Building shooting, and the 1993 WTC garage bomb, for 2 domestic international examples.

 


"Everything is air-droppable at least once."

"When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."

Stirlingsays Flag 11 Mar 18 3.37pm

Originally posted by pefwin

At last we disagree (I feel clean again ), the FBI et al, was too internally focused on the right wing after Waco, the Oklahoma City bombing, etc..

They forgot the 1997 Empire State Building shooting, and the 1993 WTC garage bomb, for 2 domestic international examples.

Mistakes were made with the US home security structures but hindsight always suffers from a perspective problem.

Some of the structural issues were addressed afterwards but essentially no security system can guarantee no attacks.....and democratic security systems much less so.

Where a problem exists it's a matter of when not if.....the terrorist (bomber) will always gets through as the saying goes.

The politicians in this country are cowards and have let this country down for generations.

They are more concerned with Tommy Robinson than the b******s on watch lists.

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 11 Mar 18 3.39pm

Apart from the tweets and ranting Trump seems to be quite sensible.

Reluctant to engage in back-firing conflicts as was Obama generally.

 

pefwin Flag Where you have to have an English ... 11 Mar 18 4.14pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Apart from the tweets and ranting Trump seems to be quite sensible.

Reluctant to engage in back-firing conflicts as was Obama generally.

Trump is an isolationist, and will only engage to support immediate US interests.

Countries need to engage and support each other and not just military alliances, for example, with Europe.

It would be interesting to see if there was a 2nd Falklands War which side he would support. Me thinks it would be even more lacklustre than Ronnie.

Edited by pefwin (11 Mar 2018 4.16pm)

 


"Everything is air-droppable at least once."

"When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."

Stirlingsays Flag 11 Mar 18 4.28pm

Originally posted by pefwin

Trump is an isolationist, and will only engage to support immediate US interests.

Countries need to engage and support each other and not just military alliances, for example, with Europe.

It would be interesting to see if there was a 2nd Falklands War which side he would support. Me thinks it would be even more lacklustre than Ronnie.

Edited by pefwin (11 Mar 2018 4.16pm)

It should be remembered that America itself contains about seventy percent of what it needs.

It has the capacity to be much more self sufficient than most other countries.

Trump is half Scottish and he moved the Churchill bust back into the Oval office that Obama took out.

He also supported Brexit....unlike most of Washington.

The idea that he wouldn't support the UK in a conflict just kind of ignores most of what Trump is about.

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Penge Eagle Flag Beckenham 11 Mar 18 11.47pm

Originally posted by pefwin

It would be interesting to see if there was a 2nd Falklands War which side he would support. Me thinks it would be even more lacklustre than Ronnie.

Edited by pefwin (11 Mar 2018 4.16pm)

I think Trump would defo back Britain. The Obama administration said it was "neutral" on the issue but said the UK and Argentina should enter talks (Argentina's position), with Obama also referring to the islands as Malvinas. What about the 'special relationship'?

Edited by Penge Eagle (11 Mar 2018 11.47pm)

 

nairb75 Flag Baltimore 12 Mar 18 3.15am

sorry for joining late.

trump is beyond horrible. trump will direct any and all resources to line his pockets. it's just that. lt is not complicated. he's a cheap sales guy. the guy who comes around wanting to fix your windows - that stupid guy.

i'm sad. that you guys are even debating any virtue is horrid.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 12 Mar 18 7.16am

Originally posted by nairb75

sorry for joining late.

trump is beyond horrible. trump will direct any and all resources to line his pockets. it's just that. lt is not complicated. he's a cheap sales guy. the guy who comes around wanting to fix your windows - that stupid guy.

i'm sad. that you guys are even debating any virtue is horrid.

You pretty much represent the title of this thread.

Trump isn't required to be likeable to be president. Your attitude towards blue collar workers doesn't suggest that you're that likeable either.

As for intelligence, I think you confuse that with education. As for governmental fraud.....evidence please? As that would be impeachable.

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 12 Mar 18 4.57pm

Originally posted by pefwin

A certain Mod said that using the Judge or Maz was a yellow card but it seems to be only me as "I am walking a tightrope" (for being perceived as a (rare as rocking horse sh;t) left wing poster i assume).

There are other discussion boards you could access for politics talk. This is for football discussions Matthew, try it sometime.

 


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Mapletree Flag Croydon 12 Mar 18 5.05pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

There are other discussion boards you could access for politics talk. This is for football discussions Matthew, try it sometime.

Isn't this the News and Politics part of the board?

 

.TUX. Flag 12 Mar 18 6.06pm

Originally posted by nairb75

sorry for joining late.

trump is beyond horrible. trump will direct any and all resources to line his pockets. it's just that. lt is not complicated. he's a cheap sales guy. the guy who comes around wanting to fix your windows - that stupid guy.

i'm sad. that you guys are even debating any virtue is horrid.

Apparently he has a portrait of former POTUS Andrew Jackson hanging in his office.
He can't be all bad then.

 


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nairb75 Flag Baltimore 13 Mar 18 1.18am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

You pretty much represent the title of this thread.

Trump isn't required to be likeable to be president. Your attitude towards blue collar workers doesn't suggest that you're that likeable either.

As for intelligence, I think you confuse that with education. As for governmental fraud.....evidence please? As that would be impeachable.

what did i say about blue collar people? considering i come from an exclusively, and very long, line of blue collar people, it'd be odd for me to not be in alignment with them. which i am.

plenty of impeachable information available. many people who say it isn't there, just don't want to believe it. be patient on the impeachment thing. it's coming.


Edited by nairb75 (13 Mar 2018 1.54am)

 

Penge Eagle Flag Beckenham 13 Mar 18 2.51am

Originally posted by nairb75

plenty of impeachable information available.

Any examples?

 

twist Flag Miami, Florida 13 Mar 18 3.02pm

Originally posted by nairb75

what did i say about blue collar people? considering i come from an exclusively, and very long, line of blue collar people, it'd be odd for me to not be in alignment with them. which i am.

plenty of impeachable information available. many people who say it isn't there, just don't want to believe it. be patient on the impeachment thing. it's coming.


Edited by nairb75 (13 Mar 2018 1.54am)

Impeachment will only happen if the Dems regain both houses, or the mr Cockwomble goes too far even the majority of repubs wont back him.

Dems stand a great chance of gaining the senate this Novemember, but regaining the house is a long shot.

So, i dont see how he is going to get impeached, and even if he did, we would have 2 years of Pence, who truly believes the world is just 10,000 years old.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 13 Mar 18 4.35pm

Originally posted by nairb75

what did i say about blue collar people? considering i come from an exclusively, and very long, line of blue collar people, it'd be odd for me to not be in alignment with them. which i am.

plenty of impeachable information available. many people who say it isn't there, just don't want to believe it. be patient on the impeachment thing. it's coming.


Edited by nairb75 (13 Mar 2018 1.54am)

What did you say?

To quote, 'he's a cheap sales guy. the guy who comes around wanting to fix your windows - that stupid guy.'.

If you want to slag off your own social class that's fine. However, you call Trump horrible yet you assume the person whose job it is to 'fix your windows' is stupid.

Nice chap aren't you.

As for impeachment, we shall see. I didn't agree with Clinton's impeachment and if it happens (which I doubt) we shall see what the claim is.

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

nairb75 Flag Baltimore 14 Mar 18 1.44pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

What did you say?

To quote, 'he's a cheap sales guy. the guy who comes around wanting to fix your windows - that stupid guy.'.

If you want to slag off your own social class that's fine. However, you call Trump horrible yet you assume the person whose job it is to 'fix your windows' is stupid.

Nice chap aren't you.

As for impeachment, we shall see. I didn't agree with Clinton's impeachment and if it happens (which I doubt) we shall see what the claim is.

not the guy who fixes your window. the guy who goes around town hawking crappy windows who you never see again once you write the check to have them installed. a cheap hustler. has nothing to dow ith social class.

he hasn't implemented sanctions against russia. i mean, how much bigger offense do you need? violating emoluments clause daily. obstruction of justice. etc etc.

if you don't WANT to believe it, i could never convince you, which it seems you don't.

like the other poster said, it isn't happening unless dems take over congress. or it gets so aggregious that the republicans realize they're going to get voted out unless they dump him. we're not going to be there in this election cycle. maybe 2020.

mueller could indict him as well. or the state of NY who have open cases.

the US's biggest ally just had a chemical attack from russia and the guy doesn't say a word about it. not an impeachable offense but part of the narrative of not protecting the country, by aligning with a foreign adversary against our most important ally.


Edited by nairb75 (14 Mar 2018 1.45pm)

 

Stirlingsays Flag 14 Mar 18 3.37pm

Originally posted by nairb75

not the guy who fixes your window. the guy who goes around town hawking crappy windows who you never see again once you write the check to have them installed. a cheap hustler. has nothing to dow ith social class.

he hasn't implemented sanctions against russia. i mean, how much bigger offense do you need? violating emoluments clause daily. obstruction of justice. etc etc.

if you don't WANT to believe it, i could never convince you, which it seems you don't.

like the other poster said, it isn't happening unless dems take over congress. or it gets so aggregious that the republicans realize they're going to get voted out unless they dump him. we're not going to be there in this election cycle. maybe 2020.

mueller could indict him as well. or the state of NY who have open cases.

the US's biggest ally just had a chemical attack from russia and the guy doesn't say a word about it. not an impeachable offense but part of the narrative of not protecting the country, by aligning with a foreign adversary against our most important ally.


Edited by nairb75 (14 Mar 2018 1.45pm)

Your political opinions I can stand, if disagree with but also support your free expression of them.

The lack of capitals for sentences however...that most definitely is an impeachable crime.

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

pefwin Flag Where you have to have an English ... 14 Mar 18 6.43pm

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

I think Trump would defo back Britain. The Obama administration said it was "neutral" on the issue but said the UK and Argentina should enter talks (Argentina's position), with Obama also referring to the islands as Malvinas. What about the 'special relationship'?

Edited by Penge Eagle (11 Mar 2018 11.47pm)


Perhaps I should have gone with a more modern Russia V UK.

The silence in the US has been deafening from the administration apart from Tillerson who supported the the UK but has suddenly been sacked.

Perhaps we will be sacrificed for a global alliance against a growing Chinese super power.

 


"Everything is air-droppable at least once."

"When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."

Penge Eagle Flag Beckenham 15 Mar 18 8.45am

Originally posted by pefwin

Perhaps I should have gone with a more modern Russia V UK.

The silence in the US has been deafening from the administration apart from Tillerson who supported the the UK but has suddenly been sacked.

Perhaps we will be sacrificed for a global alliance against a growing Chinese super power.

That's because you're relying on the crappy UK media who don't seem to report Trump's America very accurately...

"US Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley said Wednesday the Trump administration stands in absolute solidarity with Great Britain"

[Link]

(I see the BBC has put up a story about it hours after CNN)

Edited by Penge Eagle (15 Mar 2018 9.04am)

 

pefwin Flag Where you have to have an English ... 15 Mar 18 12.12pm

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

That's because you're relying on the crappy UK media who don't seem to report Trump's America very accurately...

"US Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley said Wednesday the Trump administration stands in absolute solidarity with Great Britain"

[Link]

(I see the BBC has put up a story about it hours after CNN)

Edited by Penge Eagle (15 Mar 2018 9.04am)

I thought it was because Donald is a keen follower of HOL and saw my worries.

I expect Teri applied some pressure or an opportunity; knowing Donald's preferences perhaps a golden shower, but quite a relief with Brexit, current worst economy in the G20, etc.


Edited by pefwin (15 Mar 2018 12.12pm)

 


"Everything is air-droppable at least once."

"When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."

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