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Originally posted by hedgehog50
On practically any matter, you go unerringly for the option that is least in the interests of the country. er..you voted for Brexit not me.
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Originally posted by nickgusset
No thoughts on the content. Quelle Surprise. Digging around in the dirt suits you. Those are my thoughts comrade.
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Originally posted by elgrande
Labour under Blair began the process of introducing private companies into the nhs. Indeed. Read Colin Leys book [Link] Doesn't detract from the fact that: What used to be ours is now left to the markets. You can say labour started it, which may be a valid point. But it doesn't answer are address the issues now.
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Indeed. Read Colin Leys book [Link] Doesn't detract from the fact that: What used to be ours is now left to the markets. You can say labour started it, which may be a valid point. But it doesn't answer are address the issues now.
Yes I'll think about Labour's record on the NHS and what would happen if a bunch Labour incompetents were allowed to run my country lead by a man who would not defend it.
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
Interesting that you pick something that is clearly as biased as the so called MSM Abbott was as bad an interview as you could hear. Big fanfare 10,000 new police, Shadow Home Secretary makes an absolute balls up. Of course that is news. Even after making a balls up coming out with "misspoke" just adds fuel to the fire. The safe space reports is the left's take on what happened. Essentially she is being careful, given their lead and when you see what happened to Farron can you blame her? The media ARE frustrated with Labour HQ, poor or no responses to questions submitted by the media and the allegedly obstructive behaviour does no favours. They need to up their game, Blair whatever you think of him, ran very slick media campaigns This is true. There's no getting away from the fact the Abbott thing was jaw droppingly awful. However it's a sad indictment of the press that they use it to gloss over other stories, that had they been labour 'gaffes' it would be everywhere.
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Indeed. Read Colin Leys book [Link] Doesn't detract from the fact that: What used to be ours is now left to the markets. You can say labour started it, which may be a valid point. But it doesn't answer are address the issues now.
The nhs must have been corrupt for many years (at the top and the buyers).
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Originally posted by elgrande
The nhs must have been corrupt for many years (at the top and the buyers). Yep.. Like swans,on the surface all looks good, but below the surface...
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Originally posted by nickgusset
This is true. There's no getting away from the fact the Abbott thing was jaw droppingly awful. However it's a sad indictment of the press that they use it to gloss over other stories, that had they been labour 'gaffes' it would be everywhere. I think the issue is more a case if it being Abbott rather than Labour. She has been in the tv almost daily the last few years so has her own high profile. I am off today and had BBC News 24 on and over the space of a couple of hours seem to have covered most political bases. They certainly haven't spared May.
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Originally posted by elgrande
The nhs must have been corrupt for many years (at the top and the buyers). I would like whoever is in power to review the NHS from top to bottom. Everything from funding and training to use and where private health fits in. The trouble is it will take years and anyone who mentions it in a manifesto will get slaughtered and accused of trying make cuts. We cannot carry on the way we are it was never designed to do what it is currently expected to do.
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
I would like whoever is in power to review the NHS from top to bottom. Everything from funding and training to use and where private health fits in. The trouble is it will take years and anyone who mentions it in a manifesto will get slaughtered and accused of trying make cuts. We cannot carry on the way we are it was never designed to do what it is currently expected to do. Wait for the manifestos... When are they out?
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Wait for the manifestos... When are they out? I think the Tory manifesto is out this weekend. About well timed. Everyone is gettysick, bored and tired of 'strong and stable' with no policies or pledges and sticking to scripts and no unexpected questions. I voted for Brexit but if there's nothing else in there presentation to the country I'm p1ssed off.
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Wait for the manifestos... When are they out? Opposition manifestos are a fantasy. Everyone but the totally gullible knows it.
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
I would like whoever is in power to review the NHS from top to bottom. Everything from funding and training to use and where private health fits in. The trouble is it will take years and anyone who mentions it in a manifesto will get slaughtered and accused of trying make cuts. We cannot carry on the way we are it was never designed to do what it is currently expected to do.
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Originally posted by elgrande
And just to add throwing endless money at it is probably not the way to fix it.
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Originally posted by elgrande
The inconvenient truth.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
The inconvenient truth. Absolutely right. I'd start with the Contract Management and Tendering teams within the NHS, as they're either incompetent, corrupt or stitched up by illegal collusion between the bidders.
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Originally posted by JRW2
A pal of mine who worked in the NHS for about twenty years once told me that it was literally impossible to be sacked for incompetence or failure to perform duties. Whether the management feared the unions, or (which I think is more likely) there was simply a gentlemen's agreement to lead a quiet life, I don't know. But that's the sort of extreme sloppiness that occurs when money is endlessly poured into an organisation. I've been told the same. Frankly the NHS is ripe for reform but no one has the balls, left or right, to do it.
"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02 |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
I've been told the same. Frankly the NHS is ripe for reform but no one has the balls, left or right, to do it. Perhaps there is a happy medium somewhere....I'm not sure that many people want an NHS that operates like Sports Direct. Edited by Stirlingsays (03 May 2017 9.40pm)
'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen) |
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