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deleted9 Flag 30 Jul 20 7.17am

Not sure how reliable this is but...
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Could be a cheaper option than Eze and plays with a similar directness. Possibly quite raw and will need ‘fine tuning’.

My one worry about these sort of signings is that unless they are proven over a sustained period of time in the Championship which we all know is a decent league, then they might be another Jordan Mutch. £5 million is still £5 million!

 

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 30 Jul 20 7.40am

So we looked in the shop window had a chat with the salesman and decided we couldn't afford the premium option (Ezri)so decided to go for the budget plan?

Well hopefully this lad is good enough.


Edited by Badger11 (30 Jul 2020 7.42am)

 


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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 30 Jul 20 7.56am

Someone I know rates the player.
Very fleet of foot, strong and direct and likes a step-over.
No stranger to yellow cards - he has collected 10 this season.
In Holloway signed him for QPR from Blackpool.

Edited by Willo (30 Jul 2020 7.58am)

 

PatrickA Flag London 30 Jul 20 8.23am

I like him from the limited Championship coverage I have seen.
Looks quick and powerful and in some ways similar in style to Bolassie.
I was surprised when I heard that he may be going overseas as I thought there would be interest from the Premier League.

 

taylors lovechild Flag 30 Jul 20 8.53am

We need a winger and we need a more creative midfielder, so can it not be possible that we'll move for both Eze and this lad? If he's not ready to carry the weight of being first choice at 5m that would still make an affordable squad option. We do need a squad and not just a first XI.

 

NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 30 Jul 20 8.59am

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

We need a winger and we need a more creative midfielder, so can it not be possible that we'll move for both Eze and this lad? If he's not ready to carry the weight of being first choice at 5m that would still make an affordable squad option. We do need a squad and not just a first XI.

I thought the same.

Don't think that Osayi-Samuel is necessarily ready for a starting place but he would certainly be a useful addition for the squad initially.

 


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crvenaeagle Flag 30 Jul 20 9.34am

Originally posted by NEILLO

I thought the same.

Don't think that Osayi-Samuel is necessarily ready for a starting place but he would certainly be a useful addition for the squad initially.

We can do what we did with that Scottish lad, buy him in, then loan him out to a crapper team in the same league the next day.

 

slubglurge Flag welling 30 Jul 20 9.46am

From what ive seen of him he is an exciting talent but is extremely one footed. When he has the opportunity to cross early with his left foot he always tries to shift it to his right. Prem defenders will soon get used to this and force him to the left. Very Yannick like, worth a punt at the right price though

 

Mwncisee Flag Middlesbrough 30 Jul 20 9.57am

Originally posted by Badger11

So we looked in the shop window had a chat with the salesman and decided we couldn't afford the premium option (Ezri)so decided to go for the budget plan?

Well hopefully this lad is good enough.


Edited by Badger11 (30 Jul 2020 7.42am)

We do have form for doing that. Few years ago I remember us looking at Adamoah at Bristol City and we ended up signing his understudy at the blub, slme unheard of lad called Yannick Bolaise. Wonder what came of him?

 

baldeagle73 Flag Leamington spa 30 Jul 20 10.14am

I went too a couple of rangers games this season and he looked as good as eze in the games I was at would be a good. Buy alot of potential

 


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doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 30 Jul 20 10.45am

Originally posted by crvenaeagle

We can do what we did with that Scottish lad, buy him in, then loan him out to a crapper team in the same league the next day.


Hope not. If we go for him we need to use him as our squad is small enough as it is.

 

mattteo Flag 30 Jul 20 11.03am

Osayi Samuel is too much 1 sided. Never played on the opposite foot in the last years.

Almost 23 years old too, with little success in the lower leagues.

It would be a poor spending of money.

 

JohnB Flag 30 Jul 20 11.28am

Originally posted by mattteo

Osayi Samuel is too much 1 sided. Never played on the opposite foot in the last years.

Almost 23 years old too, with little success in the lower leagues.

It would be a poor spending of money.

I'm a bit confused by your logic here though?

You have given suggestions of Lucas Joao who is 3 years older, a striker that has spent the last 5 years in the Championship and never scored more than 10 league goals in a season as a £10m striker that could be worth £40m in a couple of years. However, you say a winger who is 4 years younger and has just had a season where he scored a couple of goals less but double the amount of assists as Joao is a poor use of money?

Also, the majority of the players in the entire league are very one footed and I don't see why him being a traditional right winger should be an issue. It's not like we play a system that has a fluid front 3 or 4 like Liverpool.

I'm not saying we should buy him, more I just don't understand your differing views between him and Joao given the above.

 

mattteo Flag 30 Jul 20 12.25pm

By one sided I mean he only plays on the right. Hardly any IF ANY wingers in the PL can't play on both sides.

As for Lucas Joao, he's a player that not many people notice. I notice him because I look at things a different way than most managers and know where to find a good deal.

He's someone who no one else would have auggested. His exploits seem few because of the lack of playing time or because he was at times used as winger instead of his best position, which is center forward. Scored 19 and assisted 8 in 3500 minutes from that, 64 matches since 2018. Also played as left winger and right winger in this time.

However, he has good pace and strength and would do well in the top league. Maybe not huge resale at his 27 years, but he would get the job done.

 

JohnB Flag 30 Jul 20 12.49pm

I'm not advocating for either player, I was more interested in how you were basing your thoughts on one player being a waste of money and the other being a great investment.

In terms of BOS, according to Transfrmarket, he's played 84 games on the right, 33 on the left, 9 through the middle and 6 times up front.

Lucas Joao has played 163 times as a striker, 30 times on the wing and once as the second striker.

As a striker he has scored 38 times, as a winger 8 times, which means he's actually more prolific as a winger.

Ultimately, I think an almost 27 year old that has not scored more than 10 a season in the Championship isn't going to set the world alight with a move to us, besides he only moved to Reading a year ago.

 

coulsdoneagle Flag London 30 Jul 20 12.51pm

Really similar to Bolasie in a lot of ways. Even runs similarly when you see them both. Very direct and has looked good this season.

£25 million for him and Eze would be a great bit of business. We need depth and I’m sure it could help them both settle in together.

 

Mwncisee Flag Middlesbrough 30 Jul 20 12.58pm

What I can't work out is if it looks like QPR are going to lose Eze to someone is why they are reported to have accepted 5 mill for Osayi Samuel. Surely they would want to keep him. Would love to hear the QPR fans take on it all.

 

mattteo Flag 30 Jul 20 1.55pm

Originally posted by JohnB

In terms of BOS, according to Transfrmarket, he's played 84 games on the right, 33 on the left, 9 through the middle and 6 times up front.

Lucas Joao has played 163 times as a striker, 30 times on the wing and once as the second striker.

As a striker he has scored 38 times, as a winger 8 times, which means he's actually more prolific as a winger.


Good that you brought this up. Osayi Samuel has last played on the left in the 2018/19 season, so not at all this year and all he ever did in those 30+ matches was 3 goals and 3 assists and those way down in League 2.


Lucas Joao (and anyone else for that matter who is right footed and plays as left wing) scored his goals as he got into middle center forward position during attacks, cut inside also in a central position or at set pieces. So I count his goals as winger as he would from center forward position too.

 

Elphers40 Flag Sunny South Coast 31 Jul 20 8.04pm

We’ve had a left footer on the right and a right footer on the left for the last 3 seasons - and we don’t create or score enough goals. Our attacks are slow and predictable to defend against. It’s time to have a left footed winger on the left getting Behind the opposition, to the byline and whipping a cross in and a right footed player doing the same on the other side. This will give time to our forwards and the odd midfielder to get on the end of the cross . All our best teams over the years have done this.

 

mattteo Flag 31 Jul 20 8.11pm

The discussion wasn't that Lucas Joqo should play as invertwd winger, but if he's a good finisher as a center forward. I reasoned he was.

 

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