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EddieMac Flag 21 Sep 20 8.36pm

Originally posted by spartakev2

It's not the team it's the tactics......

The players available will allow a difference in tactics.

 

Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 21 Sep 20 9.24pm

Find some of the stuff on here staggering.
Not able to enjoy a deserved 3-1 win away to the w@nkers. Seriously.

 

jeeagles Flag 21 Sep 20 9.26pm

Originally posted by EddieMac

The players available will allow a difference in tactics.

So far he’s started 0 new players.

It took him 6 defeats on the bounce to change the system.

Eze Is best as an attacking midfielder, not a left wing.

Plan A has worked twice this season. We’ve not had to revert to our non existent Plan B. We’ve had not evidence of subs or set plays improving.

Many flaws probably remain, but at least he’s no longer playing 3 holding midfielders.

 

the.universal 21 Sep 20 9.35pm

Originally posted by jeeagles

So far he’s started 0 new players.

It took him 6 defeats on the bounce to change the system.

Eze Is best as an attacking midfielder, not a left wing.

Plan A has worked twice this season. We’ve not had to revert to our non existent Plan B. We’ve had not evidence of subs or set plays improving.

Many flaws probably remain, but at least he’s no longer playing 3 holding midfielders.

Overall not a bad window and start to the season though, eh?

 


Vive le Roy!

Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 21 Sep 20 9.35pm

Originally posted by jeeagles

So far he’s started 0 new players.

It took him 6 defeats on the bounce to change the system.

Eze Is best as an attacking midfielder, not a left wing.

Plan A has worked twice this season. We’ve not had to revert to our non existent Plan B. We’ve had not evidence of subs or set plays improving.

Many flaws probably remain, but at least he’s no longer playing 3 holding midfielders.

He gave a tactical masterclass on Saturday and has made attacking subs in both of our wins this season.

 

spartakev2 Flag Anerley 22 Sep 20 4.24pm

Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid

He gave a tactical masterclass on Saturday and has made attacking subs in both of our wins this season.

This was my point ... its tactics, not the team. This is the Same players as last season. Yet we started quickly against utd, and countedr attacked quickly. How many times last season did this team just defend deep fist half and invite teams into us. Even poor teams.

 

Charlie Croker Flag Hampshire 22 Sep 20 4.37pm

Originally posted by orpingtoneagle

I am struggling to see why Parish has not read him the riot act and kicked him out after yesterday's farce.

His professed skill is to build a watertight defence and what happens some blood no one has ever heard of and newly signed gets a goal. Now for me there is only one Donny and he sang duets with his sister Marie.

So enough is enough. We will never get anywhere letting people who are making their debut score like that.

I see some on here say we scored three at Old Trafford including a penalty, but I just don't buy that. Fergus was there and no one gets a penalty at Old Trafford when he is in attendance.

 


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eaglesdare Flag 22 Sep 20 4.43pm

Just enjoy the season. We all know we win some we loose some. We play great football one game and then dreadful football the next game and go on winning streaks then loosing streaks without scoring.

We usually get around the 45 point mark so im not worried and not going to throw my toys out the pram when we loose to s***e team

 

doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 22 Sep 20 6.04pm

Originally posted by spartakev2

This was my point ... its tactics, not the team. This is the Same players as last season. Yet we started quickly against utd, and countedr attacked quickly. How many times last season did this team just defend deep fist half and invite teams into us. Even poor teams.


Most of the home games as I recall!

However we did have a good go at Liverpool in the autumn home game - one of those rare occasions where you came out of a match having lost and thinking the boys had played well and were unlucky to lose.

 

Ali_Campbell Flag New Addington 22 Sep 20 8.41pm

Originally posted by eaglesdare

Just enjoy the season. We all know we win some we loose some. We play great football one game and then dreadful football the next game and go on winning streaks then loosing streaks without scoring.

We usually get around the 45 point mark so im not worried and not going to throw my toys out the pram when we loose to s***e team

Great post this. 100% agree.

A minority of fans always want the manager or (even more bizarre) the board out. They never provide any thought Or rationale to an alternative, they just assume a change will be a hell of a lot better. If the minority took their red and blue glasses, they would realise we are probably where we should be.

- First time in the premier league we have won our first two games of the season.
- back to back wins at Old Trafford.

We are doing ok, enjoy the season and let’s see what happens

 

CrazyBadger Flag Ware 23 Sep 20 11.18am

My main gripe with RH was that even with the 40 point safety net pre-lockdown, he never appeared to want to look to the future. there was no giving youth a chance, just going with the same ageing squad, with little hope of signing anyone to change this. (based on previous windows). without a change in mentality, relegation, in the next couple of seasons was inevitable.

What happened over the summer was a visible change in tack to buying youth, albeit for the academy primarily, but also recognising our weak areas (creativity and Goals!) and attempting rectifying them - again with youth.
Hodgson will have had a hand in this. So fair play to him. Knee jerk reactions are not helpful, especially so early in a campaign.

It is yet to be seen if he falls back to his seemingly default stance of safety first football, but for now, 6 points and 4 goals from 2 is a decent start, and there are encouraging signs. He deserves some time now to see if he can take us to the next step in our development.


Edited by CrazyBadger (23 Sep 2020 11.19am)

 


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buzby1 Flag Devon 23 Sep 20 11.46am

Originally posted by CrazyBadger

My main gripe with RH was that even with the 40 point safety net pre-lockdown, he never appeared to want to look to the future. there was no giving youth a chance, just going with the same ageing squad, with little hope of signing anyone to change this. (based on previous windows). without a change in mentality, relegation, in the next couple of seasons was inevitable.

What happened over the summer was a visible change in tack to buying youth, albeit for the academy primarily, but also recognising our weak areas (creativity and Goals!) and attempting rectifying them - again with youth.
Hodgson will have had a hand in this. So fair play to him. Knee jerk reactions are not helpful, especially so early in a campaign.

It is yet to be seen if he falls back to his seemingly default stance of safety first football, but for now, 6 points and 4 goals from 2 is a decent start, and there are encouraging signs. He deserves some time now to see if he can take us to the next step in our development.

Agree. Good blanched post.


Edited by CrazyBadger (23 Sep 2020 11.19am)

 

jeeagles Flag 23 Sep 20 7.49pm

Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid

He gave a tactical masterclass on Saturday and has made attacking subs in both of our wins this season.

Making attacking subs when we are winning, yet never making them when we are chasing the game seems a bit bizarre.

It took him 6 defeats in a row to try different tactics. Not many clubs would have shown this level of patience with a manager. He's got until the end of the season, lets hope he gives it one last push to get us in a decent position for someone new to take over. The whole club seemed a bit lackluster last season.

 

doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 23 Sep 20 8.47pm

Let's put last season behind us and focus on what RH is doing this season and judge him on that. So far, I'm pleasantly surprised.

 

AERO Flag 23 Sep 20 8.49pm

Agree ,he has better tools !!! to work with this season

 

Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 23 Sep 20 9.04pm

Originally posted by jeeagles

Making attacking subs when we are winning, yet never making them when we are chasing the game seems a bit bizarre.

It took him 6 defeats in a row to try different tactics. Not many clubs would have shown this level of patience with a manager. He's got until the end of the season, lets hope he gives it one last push to get us in a decent position for someone new to take over. The whole club seemed a bit lackluster last season.

You need the players to make the subs and having those players at your disposal can also shape the tactics you adopt with your starting eleven.
I have to admit I was concerned about the start of this season given the poor ending to the last one but have genuinely enjoyed the last three seasons Roy has been in charge. After inheriting a car crash from De Boer and squad Allardyce clearly didn't think was good enough we've been comfortable and regularly beaten some of the big six with minimal spend. Nice if one or two more of those wins came at home but couldn't really give a monkeys as long as we win. Also nice to have a manager with a shred of integrity.
Roy might be seventy two but he's clearly bright and articulate and able to command the respect of both seasoned and improving young players.
Don't see what the fuss is about.


 

Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 23 Sep 20 9.42pm

Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid

You need the players to make the subs and having those players at your disposal can also shape the tactics you adopt with your starting eleven.
I have to admit I was concerned about the start of this season given the poor ending to the last one but have genuinely enjoyed the last three seasons Roy has been in charge. After inheriting a car crash from De Boer and squad Allardyce clearly didn't think was good enough we've been comfortable and regularly beaten some of the big six with minimal spend. Nice if one or two more of those wins came at home but couldn't really give a monkeys as long as we win. Also nice to have a manager with a shred of integrity.
Roy might be seventy two but he's clearly bright and articulate and able to command the respect of both seasoned and improving young players.
Don't see what the fuss is about.


We are extremely fortunate to have him at our club.

 

Dancer Cat Flag Farnborough 23 Sep 20 9.45pm

Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid

You need the players to make the subs and having those players at your disposal can also shape the tactics you adopt with your starting eleven.
I have to admit I was concerned about the start of this season given the poor ending to the last one but have genuinely enjoyed the last three seasons Roy has been in charge. After inheriting a car crash from De Boer and squad Allardyce clearly didn't think was good enough we've been comfortable and regularly beaten some of the big six with minimal spend. Nice if one or two more of those wins came at home but couldn't really give a monkeys as long as we win. Also nice to have a manager with a shred of integrity.
Roy might be seventy two but he's clearly bright and articulate and able to command the respect of both seasoned and improving young players.
Don't see what the fuss is about.


Good Post

 

Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 23 Sep 20 9.57pm

Originally posted by A1969Eagle

All we are talking about is the Roy effect our club.. its extremely negative in parts.

Ive taken Roy for his word, he is going to be attack minded, but so far in the friendlies and at Soton, now last night, its classix Roy tactics.......


will he surprise on Saturday with all out attack and beating utd 4-3.. that would be some thing....
Roy the goal is at the other end of the pitch!!


-.-'

 

Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 23 Sep 20 10.05pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

I’ve only said Roy should go if we have a good new manager agreed coming in.

It’s a bit funny reading people getting carried away after 2 results when in reality we’ve got on the right side of Roy’s margins for now with barely any possession, taken our few chances, been gifted a penalty, to be taken twice. Roy is what he is. It goes alright with a bit of luck and then matches are hopeless after 20 mins. It just doesn’t get me interested much anymore. In time it will change. If anyone enjoys this apart from the goals then I don’t see how. But if he keeps us here for something better then fine. It’s when he inevitably doesn’t change during hopeless runs of losses people get frustrated.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (19 Sep 2020 11.58pm)

Any manager is a gamble, same as players.

 

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