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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
As usual, deliberately avoiding the key points with diversions. You know exactly why Farage had his account closed. That is the only important detail, and one that should trouble any intelligent person who cares a damn about democracy. I am doing my best to ignore comments from you, on the basis that they are always so devoid of reality that no comment is necessary. This is really no different. However, I will just point out that the reason Farage had his account closed was stated by the bank as being because he failed to meet their criteria. That may well have been a fig-leaf to hide the underlying reason of concerns about their reputation being damaged by having any kind of association with him, but that is irrelevant. The bank is entitled to close any account. It's their account. It has zilch to do with democracy. Farage hasn't had the ability to express himself in whatever way he wishes impacted. The media have reported it. I wished they had ignored it as an unimportant personal event, but they bought into the Farage mock outrage.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I am doing my best to ignore comments from you, on the basis that they are always so devoid of reality that no comment is necessary. This is really no different. However, I will just point out that the reason Farage had his account closed was stated by the bank as being because he failed to meet their criteria. That may well have been a fig-leaf to hide the underlying reason of concerns about their reputation being damaged by having any kind of association with him, but that is irrelevant. The bank is entitled to close any account. It's their account. It has zilch to do with democracy. Farage hasn't had the ability to express himself in whatever way he wishes impacted. The media have reported it. I wished they had ignored it as an unimportant personal event, but they bought into the Farage mock outrage. You are completely transparent. Don't waste your time.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I am doing my best to ignore comments from you, on the basis that they are always so devoid of reality that no comment is necessary. This is really no different. However, I will just point out that the reason Farage had his account closed was stated by the bank as being because he failed to meet their criteria. That may well have been a fig-leaf to hide the underlying reason of concerns about their reputation being damaged by having any kind of association with him, but that is irrelevant. The bank is entitled to close any account. It's their account. It has zilch to do with democracy. Farage hasn't had the ability to express himself in whatever way he wishes impacted. The media have reported it. I wished they had ignored it as an unimportant personal event, but they bought into the Farage mock outrage. There appears to have been some internal documents, I assume recovered via a Subject Access Request, suggesting he was not someone in line with the Bank's ethos May well be that having fallen out of the Bank's requirements, they looked into whether they wanted to give him dispensation and decided they didn't really see him as a great ambassador for their brand. Given the lies he and BoJo told on so many occasions that would not be a surprise.
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Originally posted by Mapletree
There appears to have been some internal documents, I assume recovered via a Subject Access Request, suggesting he was not someone in line with the Bank's ethos May well be that having fallen out of the Bank's requirements, they looked into whether they wanted to give him dispensation and decided they didn't really see him as a great ambassador for their brand. Given the lies he and BoJo told on so many occasions that would not be a surprise. What is the bank's ethos then? What are the bank's requirements? How was he an ambassador for their brand? The vast majority of people would have been unaware that Farage had Coutts account before all this nonsense. What has Boris Johnson got to do with it by the way, does he have a Coutts account? Do you know of others that have Coutts accounts that we can pass judgement on?
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I am doing my best to ignore comments from you, on the basis that they are always so devoid of reality that no comment is necessary. This is really no different. Perhaps you're doing your best, but it's simply not good enough. You know perfectly well that you just cannot resist reacting to a post from someone who criticises your views. Come on, prove me wrong by ignoring this post.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I'll rejoin! They did go down the right channels. They are their channels. They just did it very carelessly. A bank account is a service provided by a bank. The money in it is yours, not the account. If they decide to withdraw it, then that's their decision alone. That industry standards might mean they are required to give notice or provide an explanation is beside the point. Of course you will. So would all remainers !
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Originally posted by Mapletree
There appears to have been some internal documents, I assume recovered via a Subject Access Request, suggesting he was not someone in line with the Bank's ethos May well be that having fallen out of the Bank's requirements, they looked into whether they wanted to give him dispensation and decided they didn't really see him as a great ambassador for their brand. Given the lies he and BoJo told on so many occasions that would not be a surprise. Makes sense. I wonder how many others have received the same treatment but don't have their own TV platform to jump up and down on. It's all so Trump like. I am surprised Coutts hasn't yet been accused of a "witchhunt".
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Originally posted by Badger11
The point about Farage no longer meeting the threshold is actually not true. According to the article I read in the Guardian which quoted the report Farage was "due" to pay back a mortgage at which point he would then fall below the threshold. As this was a future event he did meet the criteria at the point they chose to close his account. Coutts could have reminded Farage of the threshold and invited him to discuss further investment opportunities however they chose not do do so because they didn't like his opinions. Coutts won't have an opinion on his opinions. They have a concern about the opinions of their customers on his opinions.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Makes sense. I wonder how many others have received the same treatment but don't have their own TV platform to jump up and down on. It's all so Trump like. I am surprised Coutts hasn't yet been accused of a "witchhunt". On planet Wisbech it might.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Coutts won't have an opinion on his opinions. They have a concern about the opinions of their customers on his opinions. Dangerous scenario if true. So, if some of the public have accounts with UK banks that provide Islamic compliant accounts, should the bank close those to potentially pacify those that think Shira law is unpleasant?
hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing. |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Makes sense. I wonder how many others have received the same treatment but don't have their own TV platform to jump up and down on. It's all so Trump like. I am surprised Coutts hasn't yet been accused of a "witchhunt". My FI wrote to me when I fell below the threshold (not before) and politely gave me my options e.g. up it or leave. Coutts just closed his account. If Coutts thought that a politician (any politician) wouldn't make political capital out it it they are idiots. Edited by Badger11 (24 Jul 2023 4.18pm)
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Makes sense. I wonder how many others have received the same treatment but don't have their own TV platform to jump up and down on. It's all so Trump like. I am surprised Coutts hasn't yet been accused of a "witchhunt". So those others had it coming iyo. No recourse is fine then is it? Just maybe some had a case but not the platform to question it. My god this is like a loop ! Have you considered doing a bit of water boarding for entertainment ! Edited by cryrst (24 Jul 2023 5.07pm)
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Seems the bbc & reporter have apologised to Farage . . . [Link]
This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise. |
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Originally posted by eagleman13
Seems the bbc & reporter have apologised to Farage . . . [Link] The bastion of truth the gold standard of impartial journalism ... Lol
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Originally posted by Badger11
The bastion of truth the gold standard of impartial journalism ... Lol Pre empt quote. “ yes but it doesn’t mean they lied, they used poetic license which all lawyers do” apparently!
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Originally posted by cryrst
Pre empt quote. “ yes but it doesn’t mean they lied, they used poetic license which all lawyers do” apparently! I was thinking about the Washington Post and Watergate. The editor refused to publish anything unless it was corroborated and on the record, it meant that WP was bullet proof when the White House tried to deny it. The standard of journalism in this country is woeful, they just take what they are fed and act on it depending on their politics. I expect that from the tabloids but the BBC? Did it not not occur to the journalist over his nice cosy lunch that he was being fed BS for dinner. Why did his editor not tell the journalist we need proof if we get this wrong Farage will make a meal of it. Sigh Woodward and Bernstein they aint.
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Originally posted by Badger11
I was thinking about the Washington Post and Watergate. The editor refused to publish anything unless it was corroborated and on the record, it meant that WP was bullet proof when the White House tried to deny it. The standard of journalism in this country is woeful, they just take what they are fed and act on it depending on their politics. I expect that from the tabloids but the BBC? Did it not not occur to the journalist over his nice cosy lunch that he was being fed BS for dinner. Why did his editor not tell the journalist we need proof if we get this wrong Farage will make a meal of it. Sigh Woodward and Bernstein they aint. Tbh NF hasn’t really, he’s stuck up for himself after being wronged. The very same process a certain poster has done on here over 10k
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Coutts won't have an opinion on his opinions. They have a concern about the opinions of their customers on his opinions. Sorry but this is a ridiculous statement. Why would their customers know he banked there unless they made it public? If they did, a breach of confidentiality. As I said before I wonder how many Saudis have millions stashed away in the vaults of Coutts? What are their customers opinions on them
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Originally posted by Mapletree
There appears to have been some internal documents, I assume recovered via a Subject Access Request, suggesting he was not someone in line with the Bank's ethos May well be that having fallen out of the Bank's requirements, they looked into whether they wanted to give him dispensation and decided they didn't really see him as a great ambassador for their brand. Given the lies he and BoJo told on so many occasions that would not be a surprise. I suspect if you went into Coutts on any given day you would literally be tripping over money launderers insider traders and corrupt oligarchs.
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