In my opinion, exactly as you described and a definite red although others disagree. I think Clyne was fortunate it caught the side of his shin rather than full on but he still hobbled off. No malice intended by Calvert Lewin but every player knows you can’t tackle like that.

Thought Eze was still very much off form. Also thought he appeared very reticent to pass to Franca when he would have been in a very good position going forward. Lack of trust?

Yeah, I am still unsure what the argument from anyone is here.

Shin high + studs up + foot going past/over the ball = Red.

If it were a Palace player, I'd be furious at our player and/or the bad luck, not the decision to issue a red card.

It's the equivalent of throwing a punch at someone in the street, only glancing their jaw but claiming it does not warrant arrest as the victim was not hurt to any serious degree.

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

How do we expect to score a goal playing that way?
No quick or incisive passing, players in rigid positions with lack of movement and options for forward passes.
Easy to defend against and no plan B.
Mateta tried hard, but had to feed on scraps.
Franca had a promising first half but was starved of service.

There was no intent to foul anyone ,to kick anyone or catch anyone with the studs . It was an attempt to bring the ball under control which he got slightly wrong which made it look a bit clumsy . It was a loose ball that was there to be won .
If you go back to the in game comments most of us thought it was a joke red card

No problem with Roy's subs.

A red card from one angle but not from another, I think yellow would have been sufficient, or we could have simply played to the whistle and got on with the game.

No piece of magic to win the game, Everton were the better side, Palace short passed lost possession and went backwards.

Hughes went on I think to try and inject some life into proceedings.

Not sure what to make of it really.

Thanks

How does the club have the nerve to expect us to sit through more months of that absolute s***? What have we done to deserve this?

It’s like watching a movie 10 times and wondering how it’s going to end. All very boring, we know we have a great chance to stay up but sadly it will be painfully boring under Roy. I am looking forward to next season now and sleep my way through this one

What was it like, i watched Cool Hand Luke, again, no eggs for breakfast for me, anyone know where that car wash is

“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn