What I’m saying is that based on the only facts anyone has to go on there is nothing indicating race at this moment in time. Indeed this person is Cardiff born so is a UK national.

Not sure what your ‘safe bet’ is and whether that correlates to any real crime statistics.

Think some sting needs to be taken out of this thread because the unsubstantiated racial undertones are really quite depressing.

I thought it was ‘from Cardiff’. Quite different if so.

How many ‘radicalised’ men murder others these days? One a month now? Not that surprising now and not surprising that it’s expected that a radicalised Muslim committed the latest atrocity.

Edit: he’s supposed to have been born in Cardiff by Rwandan parents.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (30 Jul 2024 9.16am)

COYP

The Chernobyl mini-series (which was excellent ), gave a vignette into a Leftist regime's attempts to lie, lie and lie again. To deny people the very evidence of their own eyes.

Sadly, it now reminded me of the West and all the countries we are now living in. The management of the Southport atrocity will have all the hallmarks of StateCraft.

Occasionally Reality impedes upon the rose-tinted image of society that is being pedalled. And impossible to hide the ugly truth. Reminds me of the Islamist in Sligo who murdered and castrated all those Gay men. The State went into a frenzy to cover up the story....unsuccessfully. And then we get the old hackneyed 'mental illness' card being played.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (30 Jul 2024 9.51am)

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

So why publicly name any criminals then?

Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

Why on earth do you think I am trying to protect the perpetrator?

I want them to face justice and any punishment to be a strong deterrent to others.

All I am concerned about is not making an awful situation even worse. Due process needs to be scrupulously followed to ensure no defence lawyer can work the system. Those not involved, but connected in some way to the perpetrator, need to be thought about.

That’s far from insane. It’s trying to ensure sanity in the midst of bedlam.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Is a reasonable question.

I guess adults are more than likely to have broken the ties with the family home than youngsters and be seen as responsible for their own actions. Rightly or wrongly we tend to hold parents at least partly responsible for the actions of children.,

Just a guess though!

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

They aren't undertones. I'm stating categorically that a vastly disproportionate amount of violent crime is now committed by those of immigrant origin.
This particular crime, as in indiscriminate attacks on the public, are almost always committed by the aforementioned.

The background of this individual won't alter that fact one way or the other.

What really grieves me the most, aside from the heathenish crime itself, is people like you who are more concerned with appearances and what people think but shouldn't say than the murder of little girls. You sicken me.

Do you have kids by any chance?

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (30 Jul 2024 10.03am)

all this desperate urge to get the identity of the stabber. i.e. his ethnicity.

At this point now, regardless of whether he is one of them or one of us. i.e. one of the stabby terrorist group that have so much previous history on our streets OR a disgruntled Nigel. Its all academic at this point. Our society HAS fallen. Too many atrocities to forget in the media memory-hole. Too many mental illness cases to be written off as merely bad luck.

When will the next attack happen ? cos it now certainly will.

when will a violent islamist be declared mentally healthy ? cos he certainly won't.

Knife attacks on young kids....Dublin, Southport

Bomb attacks on concert kids......Manchester Ariane Grande

Peace in Europe 1945 to 5th September 2015 ( Angela Merkel told border guards in the East to allow the flow in )

Its the Last days of Rome folks. 471 AD. Better pack your bibles and go to a monastery on an island West of ireland. The Dark Ages have returned.

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Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

Therein lies the problem.

'In 2024 is something like this happens, not a lot can stop it'.

How anyone can arrive at a conclusion that we live in a day and age where such a horrendous atrocity is just accepted as a reality and that no contributory factors can be explained for it and therefore prevention identified, is beyond me. How little faith can a person have in themselves and their own cognitive function that they just accept this?

Furthermore, the thoughtless correlation between children being murdered and a sporting event is another demonstration of complete insanity. There's no conflict in identifying priority between the wish not for children to be murdered and sporting interest. Anyone thinking there is must be very unwell.

I assume therefore that you are happy for events like this to occur so long as a football team has a winger you approve of?

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

No, I just think what has happened is shocking, and people trying to straight away force the blame on immigration isn't good. People pick and chose when to not like immigration.

People initially thought he was a asylum seeker (he wasnt)
People Initially thought he was foreign born (he wasnt)

I will take your opinion onboard, whilst I dont necessarily agree.

Edited by MFW94 (30 Jul 2024 10.29am)