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Originally posted by Sportyteacher
Osborne & Cameron may as well be campaigning for Brexit given the quality of their campaigning that is matched with hyperbole and lies. Leave campaign though have largely adopted same tactics. Conservative Government is a broken party with a leadership contest surely in the offing post June 23rd. Who'd trust both sides trying to come back and rule as one thereafter? (Not that Labour Party is behaving any differently by way of party unity away from EU) Lamont is part of Bilderberg, but yet he is lobbying for brexit?
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
Two observations about that Daily Mail article.... 1, That Eva Van (short) Housen has a lovely pair of norks. 2. The "march" in Bristol of the Far Right anti immigration supporters had 17 people there in total. However, because of the threat of violence from tens of thousands of anti nazi supporters (and other associated left wing anti racist supporters), the centre of Bristol was in lockdown by the Police, costing over £100,000 to whoever is footing the bill, the taxpayers ultimately! What is it with the Left with their thirst for violence & their utter contempt for democracy & freedom of speech? Edited by Ouzo Dan (05 Jun 2016 10.44pm)
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Originally posted by nickgusset
I have been espousing an anti austerity agenda on here for at least 7 years. Now the ideas have entered the mainstream... In fact hundreds of thousands are grateful that their anti austerity beliefs are being echoed by a mainstream party and as such have made the Labour party the party with most paid up members.
Edited by nickgusset (04 Jun 2016 7.17pm)
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
Did anyone see Prescott on the Politics Show yesterday? I had forgotten how much I dislike him. I think it was mentioned earlier in this thread but I fail to see why politicians are giving the proletariat the choice to decide when they, as elected leaders, should be making the big calls.
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Originally posted by Ouzo Dan
What is it with the Left with their thirst for violence & their utter contempt for democracy & freedom of speech? Edited by Ouzo Dan (05 Jun 2016 10.44pm) Well arguably, neither the far left or the far right, are a) pro-democracy or b) pro-freedom of speech. Traditionally speaking - the exceptions really being the libertarians and anarchists (right and left wing anti-authoritarian), who are very pro-free speech. Free speech is a load of old bollocks (its actually quite expensive to have a voice in society - and the idea that all voices are heard is a falicy) and Democracy is a sham anyhow, given constituency seats and the 'cost' of elections, maintains a two party state of elites, who represent corporate interests.
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
Did anyone see Prescott on the Politics Show yesterday? I had forgotten how much I dislike him. I think it was mentioned earlier in this thread but I fail to see why politicians are giving the proletariat the choice to decide when they, as elected leaders, should be making the big calls.
I disagree with this. I like referendums, and see maybe this as the way forward for politics, where in the power for very important decisions and changes, are passed to the population directly. For me, this represents the highest ideals of democracy - the people deciding. I'd like to see the UK devolving power from the House of Commons to the population on a more regular basis. With modern technology, the need for representation in the House is greatly diminished, when the responsibility for voting on motions and policy could be delivered to the people directly.
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Interesting development; "Pro-Remain MPs are considering using their Commons majority to keep Britain inside the EU single market if there is a vote for Brexit, the BBC has learned. They say it would be legitimate for MPs to push for the UK to stay in the single market because the Leave campaign has refused to spell out what trading relationship it wants the UK to have with the EU in the future." BBC Any MP of any political hue considering this action and agreeing with it is committing political suicide defying the will of the people. The "interesting development" is the fact that Remain are now so rattled by the tidal wave of support for the Leave campaign that they have to resort to underhand tactics to get their way.
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Interesting development; "Pro-Remain MPs are considering using their Commons majority to keep Britain inside the EU single market if there is a vote for Brexit, the BBC has learned. They say it would be legitimate for MPs to push for the UK to stay in the single market because the Leave campaign has refused to spell out what trading relationship it wants the UK to have with the EU in the future." BBC I wouldn't call MPs showing a lack of care for the will of the electorate a development.
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| Hoof Hearted 06 Jun 16 12.06pm | |
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
Did anyone see Prescott on the Politics Show yesterday? I had forgotten how much I dislike him. I think it was mentioned earlier in this thread but I fail to see why politicians are giving the proletariat the choice to decide when they, as elected leaders, should be making the big calls.
Not only Prescott! That absolute turd Major was on TV giving it large about the quality of the Leave Campaign leadership. Pot. Kettle. Black Major was the worst Conservative PM ever (if Blair hadn't taken over he would have been the worst PM of all time) He is a liar and a hypocrite too... introducing the "Back to basics" initiative at the end of his time in office whilst having an affair with fellow MP Edwina Currie and both were married at the time. What an odious snivelling scumbag Major is and was.
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Originally posted by We are goin up!
Equally there was a party that wanted out. They ended up with a decent share of the vote but how many seats?
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Originally posted by We are goin up!
Major was an absolute disgrace on Marr. He accused the Leave campaign of blatant lying, then said the Leave campaign was based on wanting to "send the immigrants home". I haven't seen a single Leave campaigner say that, not Johnson not Farage not Gove. Lying through his snivelly little teeth. c***. Nether side can take the moral high ground, they have both been making up "facts" as they go along.
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Originally posted by We are goin up!
Major was an absolute disgrace on Marr. He accused the Leave campaign of blatant lying, then said the Leave campaign was based on wanting to "send the immigrants home". I haven't seen a single Leave campaigner say that, not Johnson not Farage not Gove. Lying through his snivelly little teeth. c***. I don't like Major, but he did have a point- there is an ugly, racially motivated undercurrent to the Leave campaign- not necessarily from the likes of Johnson and Gove, but certainly in some of those they are trying to appeal to. And this does make the likes of Farage seem like a scaremongering racist!
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Originally posted by leifandersonshair
I don't like Major, but he did have a point- there is an ugly, racially motivated undercurrent to the Leave campaign- not necessarily from the likes of Johnson and Gove, but certainly in some of those they are trying to appeal to. And this does make the likes of Farage seem like a scaremongering racist!
What is so appealing to many about Nigel Farage is that he says things that are true, even though the lefty thought police wouldn't like anyone to say it. I'm finding it very difficult to disagree with any of his arguments at the moment.
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
Equally there was a party that wanted out. They ended up with a decent share of the vote but how many seats?
If we do, it's shown to politicians that if you take the pi55 out of the people enough they will revolt and make you change course.
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Originally posted by leifandersonshair
I don't like Major, but he did have a point- there is an ugly, racially motivated undercurrent to the Leave campaign- not necessarily from the likes of Johnson and Gove, but certainly in some of those they are trying to appeal to. And this does make the likes of Farage seem like a scaremongering racist! He doesn't have a point though..... Here is my "remain" team of w@nkers/underachievers/liars/u-turners.... Blunkett (Keeper) Hardly Champions League is it?
Edited by Hoof Hearted (06 Jun 2016 12.44pm)
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
He doesn't have a point though..... Here is my "remain" team of w@nkers/underachievers/liars/u-turners.... Blunkett (Keeper) Hardly Champions League is it?
Edited by Hoof Hearted (06 Jun 2016 12.44pm) Brexiteers Donald and Le Pen alone trumps that lot for obnoxiousness.
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