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Stirlingsays 21 Feb 20 4.33pm
Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE [Tweet Link] Even if you ignore all the surrounding problems he's accurate. I liked the fact that he separated out BBC radio. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

21 Feb 20 4.33pm

Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE

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Even if you ignore all the surrounding problems he's accurate.

I liked the fact that he separated out BBC radio.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

cryrst The garden of England 21 Feb 20 6.35pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC But Bradshaw's Guide resonates with so many people on so many levels! So true. A very theraputic and interesting program. Even on repeat. Nothing to get stressed about apart from I wish I could do his job

cryrst

The garden of England 21 Feb 20 6.35pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

But Bradshaw's Guide resonates with so many people on so many levels!

So true.
A very theraputic and interesting program.
Even on repeat.
Nothing to get stressed about apart from I wish I could do his job

Stirlingsays 21 Feb 20 7.17pm
When Wogan died.....In hindsight it was a kind of metaphor for the institution. He represented a lot of what people loved about the institution and there wasn't a replacement....The institution had lost its way...part navel gazing and part political correctness....The people in power who were steering the ship really weren't worthy of the role. Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Feb 2020 7.18pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

21 Feb 20 7.17pm

When Wogan died.....In hindsight it was a kind of metaphor for the institution.

He represented a lot of what people loved about the institution and there wasn't a replacement....The institution had lost its way...part navel gazing and part political correctness....The people in power who were steering the ship really weren't worthy of the role.

Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Feb 2020 7.18pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Midlands Eagle 21 Feb 20 8.30pm
I have just read the worst piece of journalism for a long time on the BBC website:- Delay in treating disabled boy's toothache 'indefensible' Delays in treating a severely disabled boy thought to have had toothache for five months were "little short of an outrage", a judge has said. The autistic boy, who cannot be named for legal reasons, could not say he had toothache and started banging his head against walls due to the pain. Mr Justice Hayden said the handling of the boy's case by Cardiff and Vale health board was "indefensible". The health board apologised and said it would launch an internal inquiry. The hearing took place on Friday at the Court of Protection in London, where issues relating to people who may lack the mental capacity to make decisions are considered. Concussion fears Mr Justice Hayden said the teenage boy's head banging had started in October. His parents, one of whom is a mental health nurse, thought his behaviour was a response to toothache. In November they had taken him to an accident and emergency department because thought he had concussion. But health authority bosses had not asked a Court of Protection judge to decide what treatment was in the boy's best interests until this week. He said treatment was now planned but could not take place until early March. Mr Justice Hayden, who is based in the Family Division of the High Court, said anyone who had suffered toothache would think waiting from now until early March for treatment was an "eternity". The judge suggested that the head banging could have caused a severe injury and led to the boy's death. He said the situation was "lamentable". You have to read right to the end of the article before finding out that the boy had died which is absolutely shocking jounalism

Midlands Eagle

21 Feb 20 8.30pm

I have just read the worst piece of journalism for a long time on the BBC website:-

Delay in treating disabled boy's toothache 'indefensible'

Delays in treating a severely disabled boy thought to have had toothache for five months were "little short of an outrage", a judge has said.

The autistic boy, who cannot be named for legal reasons, could not say he had toothache and started banging his head against walls due to the pain.

Mr Justice Hayden said the handling of the boy's case by Cardiff and Vale health board was "indefensible".
The health board apologised and said it would launch an internal inquiry.

The hearing took place on Friday at the Court of Protection in London, where issues relating to people who may lack the mental capacity to make decisions are considered.

Concussion fears

Mr Justice Hayden said the teenage boy's head banging had started in October. His parents, one of whom is a mental health nurse, thought his behaviour was a response to toothache.

In November they had taken him to an accident and emergency department because thought he had concussion.
But health authority bosses had not asked a Court of Protection judge to decide what treatment was in the boy's best interests until this week.

He said treatment was now planned but could not take place until early March.

Mr Justice Hayden, who is based in the Family Division of the High Court, said anyone who had suffered toothache would think waiting from now until early March for treatment was an "eternity".

The judge suggested that the head banging could have caused a severe injury and led to the boy's death.

He said the situation was "lamentable".

You have to read right to the end of the article before finding out that the boy had died which is absolutely shocking jounalism

Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 21 Feb 20 10.05pm
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle I have just read the worst piece of journalism for a long time on the BBC website:- Delay in treating disabled boy's toothache 'indefensible' Delays in treating a severely disabled boy thought to have had toothache for five months were "little short of an outrage", a judge has said. The autistic boy, who cannot be named for legal reasons, could not say he had toothache and started banging his head against walls due to the pain. Mr Justice Hayden said the handling of the boy's case by Cardiff and Vale health board was "indefensible". The health board apologised and said it would launch an internal inquiry. The hearing took place on Friday at the Court of Protection in London, where issues relating to people who may lack the mental capacity to make decisions are considered. Concussion fears Mr Justice Hayden said the teenage boy's head banging had started in October. His parents, one of whom is a mental health nurse, thought his behaviour was a response to toothache. In November they had taken him to an accident and emergency department because thought he had concussion. But health authority bosses had not asked a Court of Protection judge to decide what treatment was in the boy's best interests until this week. He said treatment was now planned but could not take place until early March. Mr Justice Hayden, who is based in the Family Division of the High Court, said anyone who had suffered toothache would think waiting from now until early March for treatment was an "eternity". The judge suggested that the head banging could have caused a severe injury and led to the boy's death. He said the situation was "lamentable". You have to read right to the end of the article before finding out that the boy had died which is absolutely shocking jounalism I think you need to slowly read the article again, especially the penultimate sentence. What I think the Judge was suggesting was that the boy's behaviour COULD have caused a severe injury which COULD have led to his death. Not that it did. Not for the first time I suspect you have jumped to an inaccurate conclusion and tried to beat the BBC with something that doesn't actually exist. Like their bias! For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 21 Feb 20 10.05pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I have just read the worst piece of journalism for a long time on the BBC website:-

Delay in treating disabled boy's toothache 'indefensible'

Delays in treating a severely disabled boy thought to have had toothache for five months were "little short of an outrage", a judge has said.

He said the situation was "lamentable".

You have to read right to the end of the article before finding out that the boy had died which is absolutely shocking jounalism

I think you need to slowly read the article again, especially the penultimate sentence.

What I think the Judge was suggesting was that the boy's behaviour COULD have caused a severe injury which COULD have led to his death. Not that it did.

Not for the first time I suspect you have jumped to an inaccurate conclusion and tried to beat the BBC with something that doesn't actually exist. Like their bias!

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Stirlingsays 22 Feb 20 4.02am
The impartial BBC funds a series exploring 'whiteness'. Most people who are funding this would find this utterly objectionable.....Yet here we are. No, this isn't a joke this is actually happening. [Tweet Link] 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

22 Feb 20 4.02am

The impartial BBC funds a series exploring 'whiteness'.

Most people who are funding this would find this utterly objectionable.....Yet here we are.

No, this isn't a joke this is actually happening.

[Tweet Link]

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Midlands Eagle 22 Feb 20 7.11am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I think you need to slowly read the article again, especially the penultimate sentence. What I think the Judge was suggesting was that the boy's behaviour COULD have caused a severe injury which COULD have led to his death. Not that it did. Not for the first time I suspect you have jumped to an inaccurate conclusion and tried to beat the BBC with something that doesn't actually exist. Like their bias! Stop behaving like a dick for once in your life. The point that I was making that anyone with an IQ higher than single figures would understand is that you had to read right to the end of the article to find out that the boy had died. Secondly Mr ****** I think you would be hard pushed to find any post of mine accusing the BBC of political bias but the truth has always been less important to you than behaving like a *******

Midlands Eagle

22 Feb 20 7.11am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I think you need to slowly read the article again, especially the penultimate sentence.

What I think the Judge was suggesting was that the boy's behaviour COULD have caused a severe injury which COULD have led to his death. Not that it did.

Not for the first time I suspect you have jumped to an inaccurate conclusion and tried to beat the BBC with something that doesn't actually exist. Like their bias!

Stop behaving like a dick for once in your life.

The point that I was making that anyone with an IQ higher than single figures would understand is that you had to read right to the end of the article to find out that the boy had died.

Secondly Mr ******** I think you would be hard pushed to find any post of mine accusing the BBC of political bias but the truth has always been less important to you than behaving like a *********

ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 22 Feb 20 1.01pm
Originally posted by cryrst So true. A very theraputic and interesting program. Even on repeat. Nothing to get stressed about apart from I wish I could do his job I can't imagine anyone other than the BBC making this programme. I have to say, although I won't watch their news, I do watch The Fairy Bikers, Portillo on a train, the odd antiques programmes and Eggheads. So if there was a streaming service, I guess I would pay for it. I find these programmes are timeless, relaxing and remind me of an England I used to know. I also prefer BBC coverage of sports, which although rare these days, seems less sensationalist than Sky etc. Red and Blue Army!

ASCPFC

Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 22 Feb 20 1.01pm

Originally posted by cryrst

So true.
A very theraputic and interesting program.
Even on repeat.
Nothing to get stressed about apart from I wish I could do his job

I can't imagine anyone other than the BBC making this programme. I have to say, although I won't watch their news, I do watch The Fairy Bikers, Portillo on a train, the odd antiques programmes and Eggheads. So if there was a streaming service, I guess I would pay for it. I find these programmes are timeless, relaxing and remind me of an England I used to know. I also prefer BBC coverage of sports, which although rare these days, seems less sensationalist than Sky etc.

Red and Blue Army!

ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 22 Feb 20 1.05pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays The impartial BBC funds a series exploring 'whiteness'. Most people who are funding this would find this utterly objectionable.....Yet here we are. No, this isn't a joke this is actually happening. [Tweet Link] I saw adverts for this. No doubt some female minority presenter can eventually berate white people for their wicked ways. Slavery, war, capitalism yada, yada, Israel, Empire, Africa, Slavery, yada, yada. Really can't wait. Red and Blue Army!

ASCPFC

Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 22 Feb 20 1.05pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The impartial BBC funds a series exploring 'whiteness'.

Most people who are funding this would find this utterly objectionable.....Yet here we are.

No, this isn't a joke this is actually happening.

[Tweet Link]

I saw adverts for this. No doubt some female minority presenter can eventually berate white people for their wicked ways. Slavery, war, capitalism yada, yada, Israel, Empire, Africa, Slavery, yada, yada.
Really can't wait.

Red and Blue Army!

cryrst The garden of England 22 Feb 20 1.51pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC I can't imagine anyone other than the BBC making this programme. I have to say, although I won't watch their news, I do watch The Fairy Bikers, Portillo on a train, the odd antiques programmes and Eggheads. So if there was a streaming service, I guess I would pay for it. I find these programmes are timeless, relaxing and remind me of an England I used to know. I also prefer BBC coverage of sports, which although rare these days, seems less sensationalist than Sky etc. Fairy bikers. Nice cakes

cryrst

The garden of England 22 Feb 20 1.51pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Fairy bikers.
Nice cakes

ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 22 Feb 20 1.54pm
Originally posted by cryrst Fairy bikers. Nice cakes Watching comfort food currently. No bulls*** health crap - just good old proper food. Red and Blue Army!

ASCPFC

Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 22 Feb 20 1.54pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Fairy bikers.
Nice cakes

Watching comfort food currently. No bulls*** health crap - just good old proper food.

Red and Blue Army!

Midlands Eagle 22 Feb 20 2.52pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC I do watch The Fairy Bikers, I don't really like their cookery programmes but I have several of their cookery books as their recipes all tend to work well. On the other hand I love watching Rick Stein as he can make me hungry with his words but unlike the Bikers his recipes never tend to work

Midlands Eagle

22 Feb 20 2.52pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

I do watch The Fairy Bikers,

I don't really like their cookery programmes but I have several of their cookery books as their recipes all tend to work well.

On the other hand I love watching Rick Stein as he can make me hungry with his words but unlike the Bikers his recipes never tend to work

Badger11 Beckenham 22 Feb 20 2.53pm
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle I have just read the worst piece of journalism for a long time on the BBC website:- Delay in treating disabled boy's toothache 'indefensible' Delays in treating a severely disabled boy thought to have had toothache for five months were "little short of an outrage", a judge has said. The autistic boy, who cannot be named for legal reasons, could not say he had toothache and started banging his head against walls due to the pain. Mr Justice Hayden said the handling of the boy's case by Cardiff and Vale health board was "indefensible". The health board apologised and said it would launch an internal inquiry. The hearing took place on Friday at the Court of Protection in London, where issues relating to people who may lack the mental capacity to make decisions are considered. Concussion fears Mr Justice Hayden said the teenage boy's head banging had started in October. His parents, one of whom is a mental health nurse, thought his behaviour was a response to toothache. In November they had taken him to an accident and emergency department because thought he had concussion. But health authority bosses had not asked a Court of Protection judge to decide what treatment was in the boy's best interests until this week. He said treatment was now planned but could not take place until early March. Mr Justice Hayden, who is based in the Family Division of the High Court, said anyone who had suffered toothache would think waiting from now until early March for treatment was an "eternity". The judge suggested that the head banging could have caused a severe injury and led to the boy's death. He said the situation was "lamentable". You have to read right to the end of the article before finding out that the boy had died which is absolutely shocking jounalism It's poorly written because the last statement is ambiguous like Midland I took it that the judge said the boy has died however it could be read the other way. I was always taught to make your point up front and then use the rest of your article to support that e.g. Judge says autistic boy's death may be due to head banging. Or NHS fails to protect..... One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 22 Feb 20 2.53pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I have just read the worst piece of journalism for a long time on the BBC website:-

Delay in treating disabled boy's toothache 'indefensible'

Delays in treating a severely disabled boy thought to have had toothache for five months were "little short of an outrage", a judge has said.

He said the situation was "lamentable".

You have to read right to the end of the article before finding out that the boy had died which is absolutely shocking jounalism

It's poorly written because the last statement is ambiguous like Midland I took it that the judge said the boy has died however it could be read the other way. I was always taught to make your point up front and then use the rest of your article to support that e.g. Judge says autistic boy's death may be due to head banging. Or NHS fails to protect.....

One more point

Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 23 Feb 20 10.16am
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle I don't really like their cookery programmes but I have several of their cookery books as their recipes all tend to work well. On the other hand I love watching Rick Stein as he can make me hungry with his words but unlike the Bikers his recipes never tend to work I went to Rick Stein's fish restaurant in Falmouth a couple of weeks back as my visitors wanted to eat some locally caught fish. I am not a fish lover so had not been there before. It was awful. The fish didn't appear to be fresh. The portions were tiny. The recipes appeared "creative" but were more word soup than anything on the tongue. And worst of all it was stupidly expensive. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 23 Feb 20 10.16am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I don't really like their cookery programmes but I have several of their cookery books as their recipes all tend to work well.

On the other hand I love watching Rick Stein as he can make me hungry with his words but unlike the Bikers his recipes never tend to work

I went to Rick Stein's fish restaurant in Falmouth a couple of weeks back as my visitors wanted to eat some locally caught fish. I am not a fish lover so had not been there before.

It was awful. The fish didn't appear to be fresh. The portions were tiny. The recipes appeared "creative" but were more word soup than anything on the tongue.

And worst of all it was stupidly expensive.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 23 Feb 20 10.22am
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle Stop behaving like a dick for once in your life. The point that I was making that anyone with an IQ higher than single figures would understand is that you had to read right to the end of the article to find out that the boy had died. Secondly Mr ****** I think you would be hard pushed to find any post of mine accusing the BBC of political bias but the truth has always been less important to you than behaving like a ******* You are the one being the "dick" because you have doubled down on your error. The point being that the boy didn't die. The Judge merely pointed out that COULD have been the consequences. Not that it was. Read it again! If you still don't get it I think you will then need to reflect on questioning IQs. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 23 Feb 20 10.22am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Stop behaving like a dick for once in your life.

The point that I was making that anyone with an IQ higher than single figures would understand is that you had to read right to the end of the article to find out that the boy had died.

Secondly Mr ******** I think you would be hard pushed to find any post of mine accusing the BBC of political bias but the truth has always been less important to you than behaving like a *********

You are the one being the "dick" because you have doubled down on your error.

The point being that the boy didn't die. The Judge merely pointed out that COULD have been the consequences. Not that it was.

Read it again! If you still don't get it I think you will then need to reflect on questioning IQs.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Badger11 Beckenham 23 Feb 20 10.27am
From another source the boy is alive however I still agree with Midland poorly written article or is that poorly edited as the one below appears to be very similar but more detailed. [Link] One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 23 Feb 20 10.27am

From another source the boy is alive however I still agree with Midland poorly written article or is that poorly edited as the one below appears to be very similar but more detailed.

[Link]

One more point

DANGERCLOSE London 23 Feb 20 3.51pm
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DANGERCLOSE

London 23 Feb 20 3.51pm

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Badger11 Beckenham 23 Feb 20 3.54pm
Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE [Tweet Link] Maybe the Labour party can buy it. One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 23 Feb 20 3.54pm

Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE

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Maybe the Labour party can buy it.

One more point

Midlands Eagle 23 Feb 20 4.25pm
Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE [Tweet Link] I didn't know Channel 4 was still broadcasting

Midlands Eagle

23 Feb 20 4.25pm

Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE

[Tweet Link]

I didn't know Channel 4 was still broadcasting

Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 23 Feb 20 7.47pm
Originally posted by Badger11 From another source the boy is alive however I still agree with Midland poorly written article or is that poorly edited as the one below appears to be very similar but more detailed. [Link] As the same report appeared almost word for word in quite a few places it was obviously a syndicated piece which was just picked up by others, including the BBC. That though didn't stop "Midland" blaming the BBC for it's journalism as well as completely misrepresenting what it actually said. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 23 Feb 20 7.47pm

Originally posted by Badger11

From another source the boy is alive however I still agree with Midland poorly written article or is that poorly edited as the one below appears to be very similar but more detailed.

[Link]

As the same report appeared almost word for word in quite a few places it was obviously a syndicated piece which was just picked up by others, including the BBC.

That though didn't stop "Midland" blaming the BBC for it's journalism as well as completely misrepresenting what it actually said.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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