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Stirlingsays Flag 23 Feb 20 7.56pm

WE 'I'm not an elitist' spends his time doing little else but defending elitist institutions.

I regard the original criticisms of this article as valid. If this boy had died that is of primary importance and so should be early on in the piece.

It's poor journalism but it's not major as poor journalism is very common in all modern day media.

Then again, the BBC steals 150 odd quid from people who dislike it every year.....So if people want to complain about stuff....large or small....they have paid for the privilege.

 

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 23 Feb 20 8.39pm

The "original criticism", if SS bothered to check, was that the article waited until the end to tell us that the boy HAD died.

Not that the fact that he COULD have died was so important that it ought to have been at the top of the article.

It's hardly "elitist" to point out the truth, is it?

It's also someone ironic suggesting that I am defending something I ought not to, when he is defending someone who has made a clear error but doesn't apparently have any intention of admitting it.

Thick as thieves seems to cover it!

 

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dannyboy1978 Flag 23 Feb 20 10.09pm

Is this a joke?
BBC News - Diane Abbott to stand down from shadow cabinet under new Labour leadership
[Link]

 
Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 23 Feb 20 10.24pm

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

Is this a joke?
BBC News - Diane Abbott to stand down from shadow cabinet under new Labour leadership
[Link]

Either step down or get chucked out.

Thick as sh@t.

Token politician.

 

"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit
Stirlingsays Flag 23 Feb 20 10.42pm

None of WE's observations make any sense. Perhaps he's losing it.

 

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
Stirlingsays Flag 23 Feb 20 10.47pm

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

Either step down or get chucked out.

Thick as sh@t.

Token politician.

At least with the Tories you know that the front bench are there on merit.

With Labour you know that merit comes further down the list.

 

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 23 Feb 20 10.52pm

My observations will make perfect sense to anyone prepared to read both the article and my comments on it with an objective and open mind.

They won't to anyone with a determination to only see what they want to see.

It's all there, in plain sight, to those prepared to see it.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 23 Feb 20 11.01pm

Ok, you wrote this:

'The "original criticism", if SS bothered to check, was that the article waited until the end to tell us that the boy HAD died.

Not that the fact that he COULD have died was so important that it ought to have been at the top of the article.'

Right, the only reason it's important to state at the top of the article that the boy died is because it's obviously extremely relevant to the context of the whole situation.

Why else would ME even care?

Where on earth does 'could' even come into it? What the feck are you waffling about?

Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Feb 2020 11.03pm)

 

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
Teddy Eagle Flag 23 Feb 20 11.05pm

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

Is this a joke?
BBC News - Diane Abbott to stand down from shadow cabinet under new Labour leadership
[Link]

Wants to spend more time with her abacus and attending her putting your shoes on the correct feet classes.

 
Stirlingsays Flag 23 Feb 20 11.06pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Wants to spend more time with her abacus and attending her putting your shoes on the correct feet classes.

Best meme of the election....laugh out loud funny.

 

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
Teddy Eagle Flag 23 Feb 20 11.56pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Best meme of the election....laugh out loud funny.

Well you know how it goes with these binary choices.

 
Stirlingsays Flag 24 Feb 20 2.58am

It's pretty apparent from what's coming out of Downing street that the BBC's license model is done.

Just a question of when not if.

 

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
Badger11 Flag Beckenham 24 Feb 20 7.40am

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

Is this a joke?
BBC News - Diane Abbott to stand down from shadow cabinet under new Labour leadership
[Link]

I for one am saddened at the news a truly great entrainer who over the years has provided much laughter and amusement, Agent Abbott you will be missed.

The good news is that Labour have a younger version in Dawn Butler so lets hope she can provide years of merriment to come.

 

One more point
Badger11 Flag Beckenham 24 Feb 20 7.43am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

It's pretty apparent from what's coming out of Downing street that the BBC's license model is done.

Just a question of when not if.

Just a coincidence of course is these stories about Priti Patel rowing with the Civil Service and MI5.

As I have mentioned before if the BBC had any sense they can salvage this situation but like the Remainers they are going for broke and I suspect they will fail.

Cut the licence fee in half drop the non essential services beef up the education remit and I think most people would say leave the BBC alone. None of that will happen until the bailiffs move in.

 

One more point
Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 24 Feb 20 9.38am

It's really quite instructive that it's necessary to go into forensic detail to point out to some people what must be quite obvious to most. So here is where COULD came from. The article in the BBC (and many other outlets who took the clearly syndicated report on the autistic boy who suffered from toothache) contained this statement from the Judge:-

"The judge suggested that the head banging could have caused a severe injury and led to the boy's death." (the highlighting of could is mine).

ME then wrote:-

"You have to read right to the end of the article before finding out that the boy had died which is absolutely shocking jounalism" (again the highlighting is mine).

Get it now?

The boy didn't die! The Judge was merely pointing out that he might have done. ME attacked the BBC on a false claim.

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 24 Feb 20 9.52am

Originally posted by Badger11

Just a coincidence of course is these stories about Priti Patel rowing with the Civil Service and MI5.

As I have mentioned before if the BBC had any sense they can salvage this situation but like the Remainers they are going for broke and I suspect they will fail.

Cut the licence fee in half drop the non essential services beef up the education remit and I think most people would say leave the BBC alone. None of that will happen until the bailiffs move in.

It looks to me as though Cummings is pushing this hard. We will have to wait a while yet to see how it ends up.

So long as the BBC retain their core values and are funded in a way which guarantees their independence I don't have a big problem with them downsizing and withdrawing from peripheral activities.

De-criminalising none payment of the licence fee may well happen and we will have to see what impact that has on their revenue before judging too much.

We live in fast moving times, not least on how we get our "news" as well as entertainment. What we need to be mindful of is to make sure we don't chuck the BBC baby out with the bathwater.

For me this will be a big test of the new intake of Tory MPs. Will they stand up for the BBC's values and protect them from attack by the likes of Cummings? Or will they just be lobby sheep?

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 24 Feb 20 3.44pm

In regards to the article, lets look at that sentence again pointing out the obvious problem.

'the head banging could have caused a severe injury and led to the boy's death.'

This can be read two ways and that is poor journalism but in true myopic WE style you only focus upon your interpretation and don't address any other.

You will notice...if you could be bothered, that I had also written, 'if this boy had died'.

ME originally attacked this piece for giving the impression that this boy had died and I agree with him it deserves criticism as I also had that impression.

What we can do is rescind any other form of criticism.

The offending sentence should have been clearly written, for example:

'the head banging could have caused a severe injury which then could have risked the boy's life'.

There are any number of ways of writing this better with more precision. These are meant to be high level journalists and the writing of English is their job.

Edited by Stirlingsays (24 Feb 2020 5.50pm)

 

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
Stirlingsays Flag 24 Feb 20 3.53pm

They will be as objective and impartial as the BBC have been.....So basically the BBC are fecked.

I'm looking forward to the dramatic reduction in socially liberal propaganda being beamed into the nation's homes.

There needs to be a true marketplace of ideas and a level
playing field for them.

Gate keepers no more.

Edited by Stirlingsays (24 Feb 2020 3.54pm)

 

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
Midlands Eagle Flag 24 Feb 20 4.15pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

The boy didn't die! The Judge was merely pointing out that he might have done. ME attacked the BBC on a false claim.

I suppose that I'd have to give myself a yellow card if I called you a stupid oaf so I won't

I did not attack the BBC on the basis of a false claim but the shoddy journalism in the whole article as the whole thing was poorly written as a few others have agreed and I guess that if I had posted under a different name you wouldn't even have bothered anyway

It's no excuse if it was based on a press release as the editorial staff have a duty to present press releases sensibly

 
Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 24 Feb 20 7.21pm

A few of my own observations:

The BBC impartiality failed during the Falklands in the early 1980's. Brian Hanrahan's "I counted them all out, I counted them all back" (regarding harriers on the Ark Royal), was jingoism and reporting seemed to massively swerve the peril our armed forces were in, and the closeness of the outcome.

The BBC started self-financing in the late 1980's, with 'product placement' most notably in Eastenders.

The BBC pay structure has recently been exposed as massively excessive (in some prominent cases), and discriminatory in many others.

BBC radio is shambolic. (just my opinion)

The BBC needs to be held to account in a proper fashion, if they can no longer maintain self-independence

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (24 Feb 2020 7.22pm)

 

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