Sounds ridiculous but to win an election Labour have to get the votes.

There are 48% of the people who voted remain and had Labour represented these people they would not be leaving Europe and have a good chance of an election win.

I like JC and his policies but its fundamental for Labour to oppose the government and they have not done this over Europe.

Only thing I do think is that the election is far too long so there is some scope if they come good over Europe.

An election win for Mrs May will not make any difference IMO it is a UK election and does not affect the EU.

It is a re-run of brexit and little to do with the countries' real problems.

Still that's what politicians want to hide all the problems behind a brexit cover.

I don't think he is ripped to the tits on 'spice'. I think he actually like that. Naturally. Which is frightening.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

This is funnier

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As ever it's messenger not message.

Same as it ever was.

I don't know. Why don't you find out after you've watched Corbyn's speech. Be great to have your feedback on what he said.

Its Crap. Now what is he a Dr of ??

Pro USA & Israel

What does it matter what Corbyn says? He should lead CND not Labour.

I do like some of Labour's policies, ideas like the investment bank are good ones. But what's the point? This is the time of Brexit and Labour are officially pushing the childlike idea that if we just play nice they will also play nice.

They are literally self harming with this supplicant positioning....But I understand why they are doing it as they are in damage limitation mode wanting to keep as many remainers with them as possible.

They know that to win they have to get the vote of leavers as well and as a good number of their activists prefer to call them racists the leadership know their brand is toxic both ways.

May's 'bloody difficult women' was exactly the right tone to shore up her base and gain Ukip voters.

Labour's position just comes across as pulling Britain down, fear mongering and positioning us as weak. Sure I know some of them believe it but it's terrible politics.

Labour are buggered and it's entirely the fault of their membership. I hope they enjoy their years in the wilderness talking shop and pointing fingers.

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'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

I just read the speech. Simplistic attack on the rich, "people held back by a system that is rigged for the rich", "the elites who are determined to hijack Brexit" [the funniest and most meaningless line I think], "corporate interest plundering our NHS" [which parts of the NHS had been privatised under May?], "The Conservatives only stand up when taking orders from their billionaire friends who hoard our country's wealth in tax havens.", "giving big business and the richest in society tax giveaways worth tens of billions of pounds".

His solution to what he sees as the great evil of people being rich is to take the money from them and give it to people who are not rich. Somehow this is supposed to make the economy 'fairer' and magically generate loads more wealth that we can spend on various state run whelk stalls. I suppose the newly enriched poorer people would be better off for five minutes, until the country reverts to some sort of Cuban/Venezuelan shambles. Then of course they will be far poorer than they are under the wicked capitalists and their Tory lap dogs

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

You seem fine that we are the least equal, least socially mobile developed nation in europe, that wages for the average person have falled sharper in this decade than at any point since the 1780s, while corporation tax is cut and subsidies paid in huge sums to foreign corporations who pay no tax.

Honestly, are you that pessimistic that you think attempting to get rich people to even pay a small amount more is impossible? 3 times in history when working people pushed for their rights in the face of the rich and won: Corn Laws repealed, welfare state, minimum wage. Each time, the economy boomed afterwards. The narrative that it would collapse is a myth.

If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

No, follow the holy gourd....