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Brentmiester_General Flag Front line in the battle against t... 17 Jun 18 10.33pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

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Well, what's wrong with my argument? It's a fact that Trump didn't create that debt, it's a fact that he's improved the US economy significantly in a short time.

The left are failure. All you have is insult.

He has a much larger job on his hands than just improving the economy. As a Tory that will obviously be one of the main markers that you will measure success against.
As for foreign relations and general world view he is deemed a complete and utter wally. He’s a social hand grenade and not thought of very highly. You may not think that is important as a right winger. But when you’re the leader of the worlds most powerful country, you have to deploy a certain level of decorum and empathy that he just does not have.

 


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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 17 Jun 18 10.34pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

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Well, what's wrong with my argument? It's a fact that Trump didn't create that debt, it's a fact that he's improved the US economy significantly in a short time.

The left are failure. All you have is insult.

What left it is the USA.

Surprised at you a short term stock market boom must have repercussions.

Protectionism and debts enough to run many countries.

We have been here before and long term its not good, you should know that.

Why so supportive of Trump with his tariffs against us anyway, any trade deal will be on a Trump 'bombardier' basis.

Let his tyres down the cad.

 

Penge Eagle Flag Beckenham 17 Jun 18 10.39pm

Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

Obama is 100 times the man Trump could ever dream of being.

What did Obama actually achieve during his 8 years in office?

 

Stirlingsays Flag 17 Jun 18 10.40pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

What left it is the USA.

Surprised at you a short term stock market boom must have repercussions.

Protectionism and debts enough to run many countries.

We have been here before and long term its not good, you should know that.

Why so supportive of Trump with his tariffs against us anyway, any trade deal will be on a Trump 'bombardier' basis.

Let his tyres down the cad.

What's going on with you recently Steely? Are you on the weed?

I will say though that I'm appreciating your more comical tone.

 


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Penge Eagle Flag Beckenham 17 Jun 18 10.40pm

Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

He has a much larger job on his hands than just improving the economy. As a Tory that will obviously be one of the main markers that you will measure success against.
As for foreign relations and general world view he is deemed a complete and utter wally. He’s a social hand grenade and not thought of very highly. You may not think that is important as a right winger. But when you’re the leader of the worlds most powerful country, you have to deploy a certain level of decorum and empathy that he just does not have.

It's irrelevant what people 'think' of him. It's what he does as elected president for the US people that matters. So far he is doing a good job for many of the reasons I've already stated on this thread.

 

.TUX. Flag 18 Jun 18 5.28am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

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Well, what's wrong with my argument? It's a fact that Trump didn't create that debt, it's a fact that he's improved the US economy significantly in a short time.

The left are failure. All you have is insult.

Still makes me chuckle

 


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.TUX. Flag 18 Jun 18 5.37am

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

What did Obama actually achieve during his 8 years in office?

Borrowed more than every single President in the history of the good ol' USofA..........com-bloody-bined. Ouch.
But for balance, (so far) Trump isn't much better regarding borrowed debt tbf.

Edit:
Forgot to mention that Obama dropped over 26,000 bombs in 2016. That's 26,000 bombs for every Nobel Peace Prize that he won. Hmmm.......

Edited by .TUX. (18 Jun 2018 6.57am)

 


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Brentmiester_General Flag Front line in the battle against t... 18 Jun 18 8.12am

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

It's irrelevant what people 'think' of him. It's what he does as elected president for the US people that matters. So far he is doing a good job for many of the reasons I've already stated on this thread.

It’s not irrelevant what people think of him. Far from it. Unless you want another Putin situation over in the States. Trump’s got a history of f***ing people over to get to the top. He can’t just start doing that in the seat of power in the land of the free. You’ve got to be an absolute mong to like this man and the way he treats people and goes about his business. He’s a scumbag.
The sooner he’s impeached the better.

Edited by Brentmiester_General (18 Jun 2018 8.16am)

 


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Brentmiester_General Flag Front line in the battle against t... 18 Jun 18 8.53am

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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 18 Jun 18 9.31am

'I saw chain link cages full of unaccompanied children. They sat on metal benches and stared straight ahead silently'

 

Brentmiester_General Flag Front line in the battle against t... 18 Jun 18 10.01am

Originally posted by steeleye20

'I saw chain link cages full of unaccompanied children. They sat on metal benches and stared straight ahead silently'

Systematic child abuse. Yet there’s a bias against him in the media.

 


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.TUX. Flag 18 Jun 18 11.17am

Originally posted by steeleye20

'I saw chain link cages full of unaccompanied children. They sat on metal benches and stared straight ahead silently'

2014 under the Obama administration?

[Link]

 


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Penge Eagle Flag Beckenham 18 Jun 18 11.53am

Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

Systematic child abuse. Yet there’s a bias against him in the media.

You didn't say why Obama was so great?

Anyway, back to facts over feelings.

As for "systematic child abuse" (sic), children are separated from their families at the border to check they are a real family member and they aren't being trafficked. The kids are looked after (initially at a shelter – as it's not meant to be a holiday camp – for 3 days max and then foster parents) before being reunuited after the asylum process. This is US law. A lot of the children in cage pics were from Obama's administration in 2014 [Link] Don't fall for the fake news.

If the Democrats want to work with the Republicans to change it, they can. Let's who the real heartless people are if they don't.

Edited by Penge Eagle (18 Jun 2018 12.15pm)

 

Beanyboysmd Flag 18 Jun 18 11.53am

Ultimatly because there is no impartial news anywhere in America, one side of the press will view him as a figurehead of evil regardless of what he does and the of will paint him as a bastion of all thats pure and beautiful in the world...and because they will do that regardless of wether he is doing his job badly or not, every case is trivialized and nothing conclusive will convince people. Nobody trusts the press anymore and the press do nothing give anyone reason to.

My opinion is that he has been largely ineffective but I would rather he was ineffective than actually able to carry out what he set out but quite honestly you couldnt form any kind of opinion based on watching or reading the news because the press have already decided how to paint him regardless of what he does...

 

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 18 Jun 18 12.42pm

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

You didn't say why Obama was so great?

Anyway, back to facts over feelings.

As for "systematic child abuse" (sic), children are separated from their families at the border to check they are a real family member and they aren't being trafficked. The kids are looked after (initially at a shelter – as it's not meant to be a holiday camp – for 3 days max and then foster parents) before being reunuited after the asylum process. This is US law. A lot of the children in cage pics were from Obama's administration in 2014 [Link] Don't fall for the fake news.

If the Democrats want to work with the Republicans to change it, they can. Let's who the real heartless people are if they don't.

Edited by Penge Eagle (18 Jun 2018 12.15pm)

Whatever is this, who cares about Obama or Democrats and Republicans.

Putting kids in cages after separating them God knows how inhuman can you be.

The President can end this immediately.

A lot of Americans must be wondering just what is going on.

 

Brentmiester_General Flag Front line in the battle against t... 18 Jun 18 3.48pm

Originally posted by Beanyboysmd

Ultimatly because there is no impartial news anywhere in America, one side of the press will view him as a figurehead of evil regardless of what he does and the of will paint him as a bastion of all thats pure and beautiful in the world...and because they will do that regardless of wether he is doing his job badly or not, every case is trivialized and nothing conclusive will convince people. Nobody trusts the press anymore and the press do nothing give anyone reason to.

My opinion is that he has been largely ineffective but I would rather he was ineffective than actually able to carry out what he set out but quite honestly you couldnt form any kind of opinion based on watching or reading the news because the press have already decided how to paint him regardless of what he does...

He paints his own awful picture without any need for press interference.

 


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Penge Eagle Flag Beckenham 18 Jun 18 4.05pm

Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

He paints his own awful picture without any need for press interference.

You are unable to discuss the particular issue and hurl insults instead. Why can't you offer counter arguments? As POTUS would say, sad.

Edited by Penge Eagle (18 Jun 2018 4.11pm)

 

Stirlingsays Flag 18 Jun 18 4.25pm

Originally posted by Beanyboysmd

Ultimatly because there is no impartial news anywhere in America, one side of the press will view him as a figurehead of evil regardless of what he does and the of will paint him as a bastion of all thats pure and beautiful in the world...and because they will do that regardless of wether he is doing his job badly or not, every case is trivialized and nothing conclusive will convince people. Nobody trusts the press anymore and the press do nothing give anyone reason to.

My opinion is that he has been largely ineffective but I would rather he was ineffective than actually able to carry out what he set out but quite honestly you couldnt form any kind of opinion based on watching or reading the news because the press have already decided how to paint him regardless of what he does...

The US media at least have a TV right wing element to it.

Over here there is no right wing opinions on the TV. It's all neo liberal and social justice.

I no longer watch any TV news.

 


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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 18 Jun 18 4.41pm

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

You are unable to discuss the particular issue and hurl insults instead. Why can't you offer counter arguments? As POTUS would say, sad.

Edited by Penge Eagle (18 Jun 2018 4.11pm)

It's irrelevant what people 'think' of him

According to you from your post.

So what would be the point of a counter argument.

 

Brentmiester_General Flag Front line in the battle against t... 18 Jun 18 5.33pm

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

You are unable to discuss the particular issue and hurl insults instead. Why can't you offer counter arguments? As POTUS would say, sad.

Edited by Penge Eagle (18 Jun 2018 4.11pm)

It’s not an insult to call a c*nt a c*nt. You bang on about free speech enough. The bloke is a proven c*nt on so many levels and has proved it on too many occasions to bother listing. If you can’t see this then you only need to jump online and do a quick google search for yourself or see what utter bollocks he may have spouted on Twitter today.
As for you saying it doesn’t matter what people think of him, why are you trying to wrest counter arguments out of me. I don’t need to argue my point. Trump proves he is a c*nt on an almost daily basis.
He’s a bully, a shyster and a spiv.

 


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