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DivingIsNotGood se25 06 Jun 16 10.22pm
Originally posted by We are goin up! There is absolutely zero chance of property prices plummeting if we voted LEAVE. Supply and demand, there is still excess demand and will be regardless of the vote. Leave doesn't mean zero immigration, it means we can simply vote for how much we want. Crucial point. Completely disagree, the house prices have been declining for last few months, go check yourself on Zoopla, find a house near you that sold in last three months and you will see today's value is down on that. We are going to see a huge housing crash, imminent VOTING OUT - Brexit will allow Britain to embrace the Commonwealth and be GREAT again

DivingIsNotGood

se25 06 Jun 16 10.22pm

Originally posted by We are goin up!

There is absolutely zero chance of property prices plummeting if we voted LEAVE. Supply and demand, there is still excess demand and will be regardless of the vote. Leave doesn't mean zero immigration, it means we can simply vote for how much we want. Crucial point.

Completely disagree, the house prices have been declining for last few months, go check yourself on Zoopla, find a house near you that sold in last three months and you will see today's value is down on that.
We are going to see a huge housing crash, imminent

VOTING OUT - Brexit will allow Britain to embrace the Commonwealth and be GREAT again

Kermit8 Hevon 06 Jun 16 10.26pm
Originally posted by DivingIsNotGood Brexiters want the economy to weaken as it will be the top end earners who will lose out Yes indeed. History tells us the lower paid and average career joes do really well in a recession. No job losses that kind of thing. Vote Brexit for recession! And help the man in the street. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]

Kermit8

Hevon 06 Jun 16 10.26pm

Originally posted by DivingIsNotGood

Brexiters want the economy to weaken as it will be the top end earners who will lose out

Yes indeed. History tells us the lower paid and average career joes do really well in a recession. No job losses that kind of thing.

Vote Brexit for recession! And help the man in the street.

Big chest and massive boobs

[Link]

Stuk Top half 06 Jun 16 10.56pm
Originally posted by DivingIsNotGood Completely disagree, the house prices have been declining for last few months, go check yourself on Zoopla, find a house near you that sold in last three months and you will see today's value is down on that. We are going to see a huge housing crash, imminent Zoopla is not selling prices. It is fatuous in the extreme to say house prices have, so far, been damaged by the referendum. The only thing that has had an effect on them to date is the new rules on buy to lets. In the south east there is not a cat in hells chance of a minor housing crash, never mind a huge one. Optimistic as ever

Stuk

Top half 06 Jun 16 10.56pm

Originally posted by DivingIsNotGood

Zoopla is not selling prices. It is fatuous in the extreme to say house prices have, so far, been damaged by the referendum. The only thing that has had an effect on them to date is the new rules on buy to lets.

In the south east there is not a cat in hells chance of a minor housing crash, never mind a huge one.

Optimistic as ever

Ouzo Dan Behind you 06 Jun 16 10.58pm
Seems weird all the remainers of which many are of a left persuasion crying about big business, banks etc.... yet want to remain in a European Union that is set up entirely to pander to the things they hate. I mean your great leader Russell Brand has been talking about revolutions and all that, You finally get what you've all wanted & you all s*** your pants and decide to keep the status quo. Strange bunch.. Edited by Ouzo Dan (07 Jun 2016 2.33pm) The mountains are calling & I must go.

Ouzo Dan

Behind you 06 Jun 16 10.58pm

Seems weird all the remainers of which many are of a left persuasion crying about big business, banks etc.... yet want to remain in a European Union that is set up entirely to pander to the things they hate.

I mean your great leader Russell Brand has been talking about revolutions and all that, You finally get what you've all wanted & you all s*** your pants and decide to keep the status quo.

Strange bunch..

Edited by Ouzo Dan (07 Jun 2016 2.33pm)

The mountains are calling & I must go.

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 06 Jun 16 11.33pm
[Link] Oh Boris.

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 06 Jun 16 11.33pm

[Link]

Oh Boris.

Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 07 Jun 16 12.30am
Originally posted by nickgusset [Link] Oh Boris. No worse than Corbyn!! Pro USA & Israel

Jimenez

SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 07 Jun 16 12.30am

Originally posted by nickgusset

[Link]

Oh Boris.

No worse than Corbyn!!

Pro USA & Israel

matt_himself Matataland 07 Jun 16 6.38am
Want to destroy the greatest financial centre in the World and the heart of the U.K. Economy? Then vote Remain on June 23: [Link] "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

matt_himself

Matataland 07 Jun 16 6.38am

Want to destroy the greatest financial centre in the World and the heart of the U.K. Economy?

Then vote Remain on June 23:

[Link]

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

matt_himself Matataland 07 Jun 16 6.40am
For once, Mick Hucknall is right: [Link] "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

matt_himself

Matataland 07 Jun 16 6.40am

For once, Mick Hucknall is right:

[Link]

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

Sportyteacher London 07 Jun 16 7.01am
Originally posted by matt_himself Want to destroy the greatest financial centre in the World and the heart of the U.K. Economy? Then vote Remain on June 23: [Link] Brainwashed by The Telegraph then that is run by The Barclay Brothers who don't even reside within The UK and enjoy Channel Islands' tax haven status.

Sportyteacher

London 07 Jun 16 7.01am

Originally posted by matt_himself

Want to destroy the greatest financial centre in the World and the heart of the U.K. Economy?

Then vote Remain on June 23:

[Link]

Brainwashed by The Telegraph then that is run by The Barclay Brothers who don't even reside within The UK and enjoy Channel Islands' tax haven status.

DivingIsNotGood se25 07 Jun 16 7.29am
Murderers, rapists and violent offenders from across Europe have been able to remain in Britain after their crimes, the Justice Minister will say on Tuesday as he reveals a dossier of 50 offenders who have used EU rules to avoid deportation. [Link] VOTING OUT - Brexit will allow Britain to embrace the Commonwealth and be GREAT again

DivingIsNotGood

se25 07 Jun 16 7.29am

Murderers, rapists and violent offenders from across Europe have been able to remain in Britain after their crimes, the Justice Minister will say on Tuesday as he reveals a dossier of 50 offenders who have used EU rules to avoid deportation.

[Link]

VOTING OUT - Brexit will allow Britain to embrace the Commonwealth and be GREAT again

matt_himself Matataland 07 Jun 16 8.09am
Originally posted by Sportyteacher Brainwashed by The Telegraph then that is run by The Barclay Brothers who don't even reside within The UK and enjoy Channel Islands' tax haven status. Another top rebuttal by the left. Michael creates argumentative quagmires in order to not answer questions he doesn't understand. Gusset claims he is the victim of stalking when questioned. You lay on the atypical leftie 'brainwashing' mantra. Textbook stuff, Comrade. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

matt_himself

Matataland 07 Jun 16 8.09am

Originally posted by Sportyteacher

Brainwashed by The Telegraph then that is run by The Barclay Brothers who don't even reside within The UK and enjoy Channel Islands' tax haven status.

Another top rebuttal by the left. Michael creates argumentative quagmires in order to not answer questions he doesn't understand. Gusset claims he is the victim of stalking when questioned. You lay on the atypical leftie 'brainwashing' mantra.

Textbook stuff, Comrade.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 07 Jun 16 8.31am
Originally posted by nickgusset [Link] Oh Boris. Wasn't that around 2007? If so the world is a very different place now the dignified don't even enter in the game

Y Ddraig Goch

In The Crowd 07 Jun 16 8.31am

Originally posted by nickgusset

[Link]

Oh Boris.

Wasn't that around 2007? If so the world is a very different place now

the dignified don't even enter in the game

Sportyteacher London 07 Jun 16 8.32am
Originally posted by matt_himself Another top rebuttal by the left. Michael creates argumentative quagmires in order to not answer questions he doesn't understand. Gusset claims he is the victim of stalking when questioned. You lay on the atypical leftie 'brainwashing' mantra. Textbook stuff, Comrade. Further evidence of being brainwashed by Right-Wing / Telegraph then in so far as when they don't like to hear or read truth, then they lazily assume left-wing sympathising tendencies - I didn't even vote for Labour at last General Election. Just being real with the facts! I would suggest that you step down from ivory towers and gaze at the real world yourself.

Sportyteacher

London 07 Jun 16 8.32am

Originally posted by matt_himself

Textbook stuff, Comrade.

Further evidence of being brainwashed by Right-Wing / Telegraph then in so far as when they don't like to hear or read truth, then they lazily assume left-wing sympathising tendencies - I didn't even vote for Labour at last General Election. Just being real with the facts! I would suggest that you step down from ivory towers and gaze at the real world yourself.

We are goin up! Coulsdon 07 Jun 16 8.51am
Originally posted by DivingIsNotGood Completely disagree, the house prices have been declining for last few months, go check yourself on Zoopla, find a house near you that sold in last three months and you will see today's value is down on that. We are going to see a huge housing crash, imminent Don't wish to be rude, but I work in the industry and that is complete bollox I'm afraid. Everyone in the south east is clinging on to their assets, there are nowhere near enough properties for sale and therefore nothing is shifting, hence the "average house price" (which is an inanely inaccurate way of measuring house prices) is stagnant. Actual values are up. Unless the property is a new build studio flat, which there is going to be a glut of in two years' times, there will be no crash in London and the south east house prices. The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

We are goin up!

Coulsdon 07 Jun 16 8.51am

Originally posted by DivingIsNotGood

Don't wish to be rude, but I work in the industry and that is complete bollox I'm afraid. Everyone in the south east is clinging on to their assets, there are nowhere near enough properties for sale and therefore nothing is shifting, hence the "average house price" (which is an inanely inaccurate way of measuring house prices) is stagnant. Actual values are up.

Unless the property is a new build studio flat, which there is going to be a glut of in two years' times, there will be no crash in London and the south east house prices.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

matt_himself Matataland 07 Jun 16 8.57am
Originally posted by Sportyteacher Further evidence of being brainwashed by Right-Wing / Telegraph then in so far as when they don't like to hear or read truth, then they lazily assume left-wing sympathising tendencies - I didn't even vote for Labour at last General Election. Just being real with the facts! I would suggest that you step down from ivory towers and gaze at the real world yourself. The above literally makes no sense. It jumps from one topic to another without correlation and ends with a bizarre statement of nonsense. It is just waffle, Comrade. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

matt_himself

Matataland 07 Jun 16 8.57am

Originally posted by Sportyteacher

The above literally makes no sense. It jumps from one topic to another without correlation and ends with a bizarre statement of nonsense.

It is just waffle, Comrade.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

since1953 Maidenhead 07 Jun 16 9.04am
I listened to David Cameron's speech yesterday (I think it was at the Oval cricket ground) and he talked about staying in a "reformed" EU. It seems to me that when he tried to change something in our favour he returned home with his trousers around his ankles and a smacked bottom. Nobody knows what the outcome on trade will be should we decide to leave, but one thing is certain: the German,French,Italian and Spanish car manufactures won't be imposing high tariffs on us because we'll simply go elsewhere for our cars. Likewise for food and drink.

since1953

Maidenhead 07 Jun 16 9.04am

I listened to David Cameron's speech yesterday (I think it was at the Oval cricket ground) and he talked about staying in a "reformed" EU. It seems to me that when he tried to change something in our favour he returned home with his trousers around his ankles and a smacked bottom.
Nobody knows what the outcome on trade will be should we decide to leave, but one thing is certain: the German,French,Italian and Spanish car manufactures won't be imposing high tariffs on us because we'll simply go elsewhere for our cars. Likewise for food and drink.

mezzer Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 07 Jun 16 9.11am
Originally posted by We are goin up! Don't wish to be rude, but I work in the industry and that is complete bollox I'm afraid. Everyone in the south east is clinging on to their assets, there are nowhere near enough properties for sale and therefore nothing is shifting, hence the "average house price" (which is an inanely inaccurate way of measuring house prices) is stagnant. Actual values are up. Unless the property is a new build studio flat, which there is going to be a glut of in two years' times, there will be no crash in London and the south east house prices. Plus if we leave, Sterling will weaken, which will mean a further influx of overseas buyers in the market keeping prices at the very least where they are now. The property argument is probably the worst bit of scaremongering by the world champion scaremongerers. Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.

mezzer

Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 07 Jun 16 9.11am

Originally posted by We are goin up!

Unless the property is a new build studio flat, which there is going to be a glut of in two years' times, there will be no crash in London and the south east house prices.

Plus if we leave, Sterling will weaken, which will mean a further influx of overseas buyers in the market keeping prices at the very least where they are now.

The property argument is probably the worst bit of scaremongering by the world champion scaremongerers.

Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 07 Jun 16 9.29am
Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch Wasn't that around 2007? If so the world is a very different place now OK so Boris is allowed to change his mind but Corbyn isn't. Boris is allowed to use quasi racist phrases such as 'piccannini's with water melon smiles' in a speech and then later be mooted as a potential party leader, yet an anti semite smear campaign against Labour is allowed to gain traction. Double standards me thinks.

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 07 Jun 16 9.29am

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

Wasn't that around 2007? If so the world is a very different place now

OK so Boris is allowed to change his mind but Corbyn isn't.

Boris is allowed to use quasi racist phrases such as 'piccannini's with water melon smiles' in a speech and then later be mooted as a potential party leader, yet an anti semite smear campaign against Labour is allowed to gain traction.

Double standards me thinks.

matt_himself Matataland 07 Jun 16 9.38am
Originally posted by nickgusset OK so Boris is allowed to change his mind but Corbyn isn't. Boris is allowed to use quasi racist phrases such as 'piccannini's with water melon smiles' in a speech and then later be mooted as a potential party leader, yet an anti semite smear campaign against Labour is allowed to gain traction. Double standards me thinks. Interesting that you keep raising this but try to shut down any discussion you think is 'repetitive' or 'boring to other HoL users ' on Labour anti semitism. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

matt_himself

Matataland 07 Jun 16 9.38am

Originally posted by nickgusset

OK so Boris is allowed to change his mind but Corbyn isn't.

Double standards me thinks.

Interesting that you keep raising this but try to shut down any discussion you think is 'repetitive' or 'boring to other HoL users ' on Labour anti semitism.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 07 Jun 16 9.43am
Originally posted by matt_himself Interesting that you keep raising this but try to shut down any discussion you think is 'repetitive' or 'boring to other HoL users ' on Labour anti semitism. Level 2 - ad hominen! It's pertinent to this discussion. Did you read the transcript of the anti semitism hearing that I posted on the thread? What are your thoughts?(please post on the Labour anti - semite thread though as I fear it will detract from the subject of this one) Edited by nickgusset (07 Jun 2016 9.47am)

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 07 Jun 16 9.43am

Originally posted by matt_himself

Interesting that you keep raising this but try to shut down any discussion you think is 'repetitive' or 'boring to other HoL users ' on Labour anti semitism.

Level 2 - ad hominen!
It's pertinent to this discussion.
Did you read the transcript of the anti semitism hearing that I posted on the thread? What are your thoughts?(please post on the Labour anti - semite thread though as I fear it will detract from the subject of this one)

Edited by nickgusset (07 Jun 2016 9.47am)

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