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steeleye20 Croydon 18 Jun 18 9.16pm
Originally posted by Brentmiester_General You clearly haven’t got a scoobie about trading into China. Still think it’s about us buying plastic goods from them don’t you? Stick to teaching uninterested kids about the battle of Hastings you silly little man. Edited by Brentmiester_General (18 Jun 2018 9.14pm) He certainly knows about it, he was there !!!!!!

steeleye20

Croydon 18 Jun 18 9.16pm

Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

You clearly haven’t got a scoobie about trading into China. Still think it’s about us buying plastic goods from them don’t you?
Stick to teaching uninterested kids about the battle of Hastings you silly little man.

Edited by Brentmiester_General (18 Jun 2018 9.14pm)

He certainly knows about it, he was there !!!!!!

Stirlingsays 18 Jun 18 9.26pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 He certainly knows about it, he was there !!!!!! I bet I've banged more birds than you have Steely. I reckon you're a high up rank in the incel community. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

18 Jun 18 9.26pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

He certainly knows about it, he was there !!!!!!

I bet I've banged more birds than you have Steely.

I reckon you're a high up rank in the incel community.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

.TUX. 18 Jun 18 10.26pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Where's the evidence that the US's GDP isn't accurate? Where's the evidence of state manipulation of the country's fiscal figures? We know China's is manipulated. Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Jun 2018 9.04pm) Just one piece among hundreds..... [Link] There's also the Rumsfeld admission, the Bernanke admission etc etc. But i somehow doubt you'll ever be convinced. Oh well. Buy Litecoin.

.TUX.

18 Jun 18 10.26pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Where's the evidence that the US's GDP isn't accurate? Where's the evidence of state manipulation of the country's fiscal figures? We know China's is manipulated.

Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Jun 2018 9.04pm)

Just one piece among hundreds.....

[Link]

There's also the Rumsfeld admission, the Bernanke admission etc etc. But i somehow doubt you'll ever be convinced.
Oh well.

Buy Litecoin.

steeleye20 Croydon 18 Jun 18 11.05pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I bet I've banged more birds than you have Steely. I reckon you're a high up rank in the incel community. incel just looked it up how appalling. Anyway, you may have banged more due to longevity from the Battle of Hastings but I think I may edge this on superior upskirting and dogging skills. You need a bit extra on the c.v. these days.

steeleye20

Croydon 18 Jun 18 11.05pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I bet I've banged more birds than you have Steely.

I reckon you're a high up rank in the incel community.

incel just looked it up how appalling.

Anyway, you may have banged more due to longevity from the Battle of Hastings but I think I may edge this on superior upskirting and dogging skills.

You need a bit extra on the c.v. these days.

Stirlingsays 18 Jun 18 11.29pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 incel just looked it up how appalling. Anyway, you may have banged more due to longevity from the Battle of Hastings but I think I may edge this on superior upskirting and dogging skills. You need a bit extra on the c.v. these days. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

18 Jun 18 11.29pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

incel just looked it up how appalling.

Anyway, you may have banged more due to longevity from the Battle of Hastings but I think I may edge this on superior upskirting and dogging skills.

You need a bit extra on the c.v. these days.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays 18 Jun 18 11.31pm
Originally posted by .TUX. Just one piece among hundreds..... [Link] There's also the Rumsfeld admission, the Bernanke admission etc etc. But i somehow doubt you'll ever be convinced. Oh well. tut, tut Tux....that's not GDP.....In GDP those are drops in the ocean. Let's not deflect from my main point....where I was correct of course. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

18 Jun 18 11.31pm

Originally posted by .TUX.

Just one piece among hundreds.....

[Link]

There's also the Rumsfeld admission, the Bernanke admission etc etc. But i somehow doubt you'll ever be convinced.
Oh well.

tut, tut Tux....that's not GDP.....In GDP those are drops in the ocean.

Let's not deflect from my main point....where I was correct of course.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Penge Eagle Beckenham 18 Jun 18 11.46pm
Originally posted by Brentmiester_General He’s a climate change denier. Because of the money him and his high ranking buddies make from fossil fuel investments. He’s buddies up with the NRA because of the demographic of his voters regardless of the gun massacres coming thick and fast since he has been in office. And he’s pissed off most countries and their leaders so far in his short tenure. And now he’s messing with the Asian dragon with these ridiculous tariffs. He’ll come off worse if he wants to f*** with China. Because like it or not, they are the new world super power. And they’ll just shut him and America down. Watch this space. [Link] Edited by Brentmiester_General (18 Jun 2018 7.38pm) Trump has simply denied that climate change is caused by humans. It's a fair comment actually – many agree with him. He has said from day one that he feels investing in fossil fuels will help the jobs and the economy. Not sure he has personally made any money out of it, especially as he's a billionaire anyway. It's be no surprise if he did, seeing as it seems most politicians have links to companies – which is in the rules. Though there are grey areas too. All the recent presidents have left office with a significantly higher net worth. Yes, he supports the NRA and the Second Amendment – again nothing wrong with that. Obama didn't upset the NRA or bring in gun regs and plenty of massacres happened when he was in the White House. Obama and the Democrats did nothing and you complain abput Trump not doing so? Again, no NRA members are killing people. Pissed off leaders? More like not let the likes of Merkel and the rest of Europe take the piss, with NATO payments being one example. They now pay their fair share. I don't agree with Trump on the steel tariffs on China. But they are far from being the world super power any time soon. Edited by Penge Eagle (19 Jun 2018 12.11am)

Penge Eagle

Beckenham 18 Jun 18 11.46pm

Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

He’s a climate change denier. Because of the money him and his high ranking buddies make from fossil fuel investments. He’s buddies up with the NRA because of the demographic of his voters regardless of the gun massacres coming thick and fast since he has been in office. And he’s pissed off most countries and their leaders so far in his short tenure. And now he’s messing with the Asian dragon with these ridiculous tariffs. He’ll come off worse if he wants to f*** with China. Because like it or not, they are the new world super power. And they’ll just shut him and America down. Watch this space.

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Edited by Brentmiester_General (18 Jun 2018 7.38pm)

Trump has simply denied that climate change is caused by humans. It's a fair comment actually – many agree with him. He has said from day one that he feels investing in fossil fuels will help the jobs and the economy. Not sure he has personally made any money out of it, especially as he's a billionaire anyway. It's be no surprise if he did, seeing as it seems most politicians have links to companies – which is in the rules. Though there are grey areas too. All the recent presidents have left office with a significantly higher net worth.

Yes, he supports the NRA and the Second Amendment – again nothing wrong with that. Obama didn't upset the NRA or bring in gun regs and plenty of massacres happened when he was in the White House. Obama and the Democrats did nothing and you complain abput Trump not doing so? Again, no NRA members are killing people.

Pissed off leaders? More like not let the likes of Merkel and the rest of Europe take the piss, with NATO payments being one example. They now pay their fair share.

I don't agree with Trump on the steel tariffs on China. But they are far from being the world super power any time soon.

Edited by Penge Eagle (19 Jun 2018 12.11am)

Stirlingsays 19 Jun 18 12.13am
Yep, China are nowhere near even half the US military budget. General just doesn't seem to know much. China has huge numbers of very poor people. Their wealth per capita or per head isn't comparable to the US. Welfare spending one third of the US....on so many metrics it's far better to be an American. One economy is sophisticated over many sectors and has an obesity problem and the other is resource and industry heavy and outside of the cities rural. Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Jun 2018 12.47pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

19 Jun 18 12.13am

Yep, China are nowhere near even half the US military budget.

General just doesn't seem to know much.

China has huge numbers of very poor people. Their wealth per capita or per head isn't comparable to the US. Welfare spending one third of the US....on so many metrics it's far better to be an American.

One economy is sophisticated over many sectors and has an obesity problem and the other is resource and industry heavy and outside of the cities rural.

Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Jun 2018 12.47pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Beanyboysmd 19 Jun 18 2.05am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays The US media at least have a TV right wing element to it. Over here there is no right wing opinions on the TV. It's all neo liberal and social justice. I no longer watch any TV news. Isnt it wierd, to me the media is entirely right wing propaganda with a couple of self congratulatory left wing. I think someone once said that people tend to think that any people assume that any article that doesnt completely agree with you is biased against you. Id like to know if anyone has actually impartially tracked where each of the nedia outlets actually stand. I have a feeling that we all 'feel' like its against us but both sides cant be right can they?

Beanyboysmd

19 Jun 18 2.05am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The US media at least have a TV right wing element to it.

Over here there is no right wing opinions on the TV. It's all neo liberal and social justice.

I no longer watch any TV news.

Isnt it wierd, to me the media is entirely right wing propaganda with a couple of self congratulatory left wing. I think someone once said that people tend to think that any people assume that any article that doesnt completely agree with you is biased against you.
Id like to know if anyone has actually impartially tracked where each of the nedia outlets actually stand. I have a feeling that we all 'feel' like its against us but both sides cant be right can they?

Beanyboysmd 19 Jun 18 2.24am
This 'trade war' between the us and china is pure bull, both countries have each other by the balls and they know it. China own a massive percentage of Americas debt and service a huge amount of americas economy. The US is Chinas main customer in almost every industry. Its like a nuclear cold war but with money instead of bombs, if hit the button then they financially nuke the other country, but nuke their own in the process... So its all bravado and bullsh1t on both sides, because it plays really well at home for them. They will pull ugly faces then they will go home and nothing will happen...

Beanyboysmd

19 Jun 18 2.24am

This 'trade war' between the us and china is pure bull, both countries have each other by the balls and they know it. China own a massive percentage of Americas debt and service a huge amount of americas economy. The US is Chinas main customer in almost every industry. Its like a nuclear cold war but with money instead of bombs, if hit the button then they financially nuke the other country, but nuke their own in the process...

So its all bravado and bullsh1t on both sides, because it plays really well at home for them. They will pull ugly faces then they will go home and nothing will happen...

Stirlingsays 19 Jun 18 12.30pm
Originally posted by Beanyboysmd Isnt it wierd, to me the media is entirely right wing propaganda with a couple of self congratulatory left wing. I think someone once said that people tend to think that any people assume that any article that doesnt completely agree with you is biased against you. Id like to know if anyone has actually impartially tracked where each of the nedia outlets actually stand. I have a feeling that we all 'feel' like its against us but both sides cant be right can they? You think the media is 'entirely right wing propaganda with a couple of self congratulatory left wing'? If you don't mind, how old are you? Perhaps this is a generational thing. I remember Sky News before it was detached from Murdoch. That could be called right wing but I'm genuinely struggling to think of right wing TV media. You have a few right wing papers but they have nothing like the same reach that TV news has. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

19 Jun 18 12.30pm

Originally posted by Beanyboysmd

You think the media is 'entirely right wing propaganda with a couple of self congratulatory left wing'?

If you don't mind, how old are you? Perhaps this is a generational thing.

I remember Sky News before it was detached from Murdoch. That could be called right wing but I'm genuinely struggling to think of right wing TV media.

You have a few right wing papers but they have nothing like the same reach that TV news has.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

.TUX. 19 Jun 18 6.09pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays tut, tut Tux....that's not GDP.....In GDP those are drops in the ocean. Let's not deflect from my main point....where I was correct of course. You asked for ''evidence of state manipulation of the country's fiscal figures''. I delivered. Buy Litecoin.

.TUX.

19 Jun 18 6.09pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

tut, tut Tux....that's not GDP.....In GDP those are drops in the ocean.

Let's not deflect from my main point....where I was correct of course.

You asked for ''evidence of state manipulation of the country's fiscal figures''.

I delivered.

Buy Litecoin.

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Stirlingsays 19 Jun 18 8.53pm
Originally posted by .TUX. You asked for ''evidence of state manipulation of the country's fiscal figures''. I delivered. I think that's fair enough.....it's misappropriation of funds at various levels. None of that however is evidence of inflating the US economy to appear more powerful than it is, which is what I meant......and what China have done. Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Jun 2018 8.54pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

19 Jun 18 8.53pm

Originally posted by .TUX.

You asked for ''evidence of state manipulation of the country's fiscal figures''.

I delivered.

I think that's fair enough.....it's misappropriation of funds at various levels.

None of that however is evidence of inflating the US economy to appear more powerful than it is, which is what I meant......and what China have done.

Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Jun 2018 8.54pm)

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.TUX. 19 Jun 18 9.02pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I think that's fair enough.....it's misappropriation of funds at various levels. None of that however is evidence of inflating the US economy to appear more powerful than it is, which is what I meant......and what China have done. Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Jun 2018 8.54pm) It's fraud. End of. Your last paragraph is irrelevant. Edited by .TUX. (19 Jun 2018 9.03pm) Buy Litecoin.

.TUX.

19 Jun 18 9.02pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I think that's fair enough.....it's misappropriation of funds at various levels.

None of that however is evidence of inflating the US economy to appear more powerful than it is, which is what I meant......and what China have done.

Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Jun 2018 8.54pm)

It's fraud. End of.

Your last paragraph is irrelevant.

Edited by .TUX. (19 Jun 2018 9.03pm)

Buy Litecoin.

steeleye20 Croydon 19 Jun 18 9.06pm
Originally posted by .TUX. It's fraud. End of. Your last paragraph is irrelevant. Edited by .TUX. (19 Jun 2018 9.03pm) It's capitalism. Corruption and theft.

steeleye20

Croydon 19 Jun 18 9.06pm

Originally posted by .TUX.

It's fraud. End of.

Your last paragraph is irrelevant.

Edited by .TUX. (19 Jun 2018 9.03pm)

It's capitalism.

Corruption and theft.

Penge Eagle Beckenham 19 Jun 18 9.18pm
Turkey has finished construction on its 764km border wall with Syria. Where's the outrage – or is it only reserved for the US? The Turkish army have apparently openly fire indiscriminately on refugees crossing from Syria. Where's the outrage – or is that only reserved for Israel? [Link] [Tweet Link] Edited by Penge Eagle (19 Jun 2018 9.18pm)

Penge Eagle

Beckenham 19 Jun 18 9.18pm

Turkey has finished construction on its 764km border wall with Syria. Where's the outrage – or is it only reserved for the US?

The Turkish army have apparently openly fire indiscriminately on refugees crossing from Syria. Where's the outrage – or is that only reserved for Israel?

[Link]

[Tweet Link]

Edited by Penge Eagle (19 Jun 2018 9.18pm)

steeleye20 Croydon 19 Jun 18 9.36pm
Originally posted by Penge Eagle Turkey has finished construction on its 764km border wall with Syria. Where's the outrage – or is it only reserved for the US? The Turkish army have apparently openly fire indiscriminately on refugees crossing from Syria. Where's the outrage – or is that only reserved for Israel? [Link] [Tweet Link] Edited by Penge Eagle (19 Jun 2018 9.18pm) Israel would never build a wall as c**p as that. If that's what Trump is thinking of with Mexico I am surprised they didn't agree !!

steeleye20

Croydon 19 Jun 18 9.36pm

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

Turkey has finished construction on its 764km border wall with Syria. Where's the outrage – or is it only reserved for the US?

The Turkish army have apparently openly fire indiscriminately on refugees crossing from Syria. Where's the outrage – or is that only reserved for Israel?

[Link]

[Tweet Link]

Edited by Penge Eagle (19 Jun 2018 9.18pm)

Israel would never build a wall as c**p as that.

If that's what Trump is thinking of with Mexico I am surprised they didn't agree !!

.TUX. 19 Jun 18 9.52pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Israel would never build a wall as cp as that.** If that's what Trump is thinking of with Mexico I am surprised they didn't agree !! Have you ever seen an accountant with a trowel? Buy Litecoin.

.TUX.

19 Jun 18 9.52pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Israel would never build a wall as c**p as that.

If that's what Trump is thinking of with Mexico I am surprised they didn't agree !!

Have you ever seen an accountant with a trowel?

Buy Litecoin.

Stirlingsays 19 Jun 18 9.53pm
Originally posted by .TUX. It's fraud. End of. Your last paragraph is irrelevant. Edited by .TUX. (19 Jun 2018 9.03pm) Not to my original point it isn't. Not everyone is riding your train at the same speed Tux. In my view automation is a far more prescient problem than the financial armageddons that you predict. I've been listening to this record since 2009. The systems will alternate between boom and bust like they have always done....sometimes larger, sometimes smaller. When we have the next big downturn......That's when companies will look to shed jobs and really buy into automation. That's what is going to hurt......That requires solutions and universal basic income isn't on the agenda at the moment. Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Jun 2018 9.53pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

19 Jun 18 9.53pm

Originally posted by .TUX.

It's fraud. End of.

Your last paragraph is irrelevant.

Edited by .TUX. (19 Jun 2018 9.03pm)

Not to my original point it isn't.

Not everyone is riding your train at the same speed Tux.

In my view automation is a far more prescient problem than the financial armageddons that you predict. I've been listening to this record since 2009.

The systems will alternate between boom and bust like they have always done....sometimes larger, sometimes smaller.

When we have the next big downturn......That's when companies will look to shed jobs and really buy into automation.

That's what is going to hurt......That requires solutions and universal basic income isn't on the agenda at the moment.

Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Jun 2018 9.53pm)

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