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.TUX. 19 Jun 18 10.15pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Not to my original point it isn't. Not everyone is riding your train at the same speed Tux. In my view automation is a far more prescient problem than the financial armageddons that you predict. I've been listening to this record since 2009. The systems will alternate between boom and bust like they have always done....sometimes larger, sometimes smaller. When we have the next big downturn......That's when companies will look to shed jobs and really buy into automation. That's what is going to hurt......That requires solutions and universal basic income isn't on the agenda at the moment. Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Jun 2018 9.53pm) It is. You're just far too busy typing to ever bloody listen Buy Litecoin.

.TUX.

19 Jun 18 10.15pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Not to my original point it isn't.

Not everyone is riding your train at the same speed Tux.

In my view automation is a far more prescient problem than the financial armageddons that you predict. I've been listening to this record since 2009.

The systems will alternate between boom and bust like they have always done....sometimes larger, sometimes smaller.

When we have the next big downturn......That's when companies will look to shed jobs and really buy into automation.

That's what is going to hurt......That requires solutions and universal basic income isn't on the agenda at the moment.

Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Jun 2018 9.53pm)

It is.

You're just far too busy typing to ever bloody listen

Buy Litecoin.

steeleye20 Croydon 19 Jun 18 10.24pm
'That's when companies will look to shed jobs and really buy into automation'. That didn't happen after 2008 though did it, which surprised me, and particularly that employment was pretty much sustained.

steeleye20

Croydon 19 Jun 18 10.24pm

'That's when companies will look to shed jobs and really buy into automation'.

That didn't happen after 2008 though did it, which surprised me, and particularly that employment was pretty much sustained.

Jamesey Wandsworth 19 Jun 18 11.16pm
Those Chinese started it 2700 years ago with their Great Wall. Started a trend to keep people out who you don't really want coming in for many reasons. Damned clever those Chinese. Nothing is fool-proof - fools are too ingenious

Jamesey

Wandsworth 19 Jun 18 11.16pm

Those Chinese started it 2700 years ago with their Great Wall.

Started a trend to keep people out who you don't really want coming in for many reasons.

Damned clever those Chinese.

Nothing is fool-proof - fools are too ingenious

Stirlingsays 19 Jun 18 11.17pm
Originally posted by .TUX. It is. You're just far too busy typing to ever bloody listen Grrrrh! 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

19 Jun 18 11.17pm

Originally posted by .TUX.

It is.

You're just far too busy typing to ever bloody listen

Grrrrh!

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays 19 Jun 18 11.22pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 'That's when companies will look to shed jobs and really buy into automation'. That didn't happen after 2008 though did it, which surprised me, and particularly that employment was pretty much sustained. Well, yes it did, it's been happening slowly for a long time. However, the technology has taken significant steps forward in the last five years. The next significant downturn.....when companies look to cut jobs down to the bone.....that's when automation is going to become far more visible. For one example there are massive numbers of jobs in freight......and while you are going to need 'last mile' drivers the reality is jobs are going to be reduced significantly.....That technology is coming pretty soon. But it isn't just blue collar jobs. Lots of white collar jobs are going to go as well. Glad I could cheer you all up....I'm available for celebrations and party invites. Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Jun 2018 11.29pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

19 Jun 18 11.22pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

'That's when companies will look to shed jobs and really buy into automation'.

That didn't happen after 2008 though did it, which surprised me, and particularly that employment was pretty much sustained.

Well, yes it did, it's been happening slowly for a long time. However, the technology has taken significant steps forward in the last five years.

The next significant downturn.....when companies look to cut jobs down to the bone.....that's when automation is going to become far more visible.

For one example there are massive numbers of jobs in freight......and while you are going to need 'last mile' drivers the reality is jobs are going to be reduced significantly.....That technology is coming pretty soon.

But it isn't just blue collar jobs. Lots of white collar jobs are going to go as well.

Glad I could cheer you all up....I'm available for celebrations and party invites.

Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Jun 2018 11.29pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays 20 Jun 18 9.58am
What jobs will still be around in 20 years? Genuinely 'people' jobs and jobs that require real 'creativity'. Essentially jobs where humans require another human being to have a connection to.....social worker. Also....somehow I don't think many people will be interested in watching music created by robots....They will want to follow human bands and artists. Anyway I don't think it will be quite as bad as....for example this article below predicts but I do think it's going to be major. A child under five now, simply isn't going to have the same job choices. [Link] Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Jun 2018 10.01am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

20 Jun 18 9.58am

What jobs will still be around in 20 years?

Genuinely 'people' jobs and jobs that require real 'creativity'. Essentially jobs where humans require another human being to have a connection to.....social worker. Also....somehow I don't think many people will be interested in watching music created by robots....They will want to follow human bands and artists.

Anyway I don't think it will be quite as bad as....for example this article below predicts but I do think it's going to be major.

A child under five now, simply isn't going to have the same job choices.

[Link]

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Jun 2018 10.01am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Brentmiester_General Front line in the battle against t... 20 Jun 18 10.03am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays What jobs will still be around in 20 years? Genuinely 'people' jobs and jobs that require real 'creativity'. Essentially jobs where humans require another human being to have a connection to.....social worker. Also....somehow I don't think many people will be interested in watching music created by robots....They will want to follow human bands and artists. Anyway I don't think it will be quite as bad as....for example this article below predicts but I do think it's going to be major. A child under five now, simply isn't going to have the same job choices. [Link] Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Jun 2018 10.01am) Crime will take over as more and more people will be left with little to no options to do anything else. It is worrying. "We love you Palace, we f@cking hate Man U, We love you Palace, we hate the brighton too, We love you Palace we play in red 'n' blue, so f@ck you, and you ...

Brentmiester_General

Front line in the battle against t... 20 Jun 18 10.03am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

What jobs will still be around in 20 years?

Anyway I don't think it will be quite as bad as....for example this article below predicts but I do think it's going to be major.

A child under five now, simply isn't going to have the same job choices.

[Link]

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Jun 2018 10.01am)

Crime will take over as more and more people will be left with little to no options to do anything else. It is worrying.

"We love you Palace, we f@cking hate Man U, We love you Palace, we hate the brighton too, We love you Palace we play in red 'n' blue, so f@ck you, and you ...

Stirlingsays 20 Jun 18 10.10am
Originally posted by Brentmiester_General Crime will take over as more and more people will be left with little to no options to do anything else. It is worrying. I agree....it's a concern. We can talk about universal basic income as a tool to mollify the population but in general.....a lot of young people with nothing to do doesn't tend to end well....especially young males. It's a natural state of being....idle hands and all that 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

20 Jun 18 10.10am

Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

Crime will take over as more and more people will be left with little to no options to do anything else. It is worrying.

I agree....it's a concern.

We can talk about universal basic income as a tool to mollify the population but in general.....a lot of young people with nothing to do doesn't tend to end well....especially young males.

It's a natural state of being....idle hands and all that

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Brentmiester_General Front line in the battle against t... 20 Jun 18 10.38am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I agree....it's a concern. We can talk about universal basic income as a tool to mollify the population but in general.....a lot of young people with nothing to do doesn't tend to end well....especially young males. It's a natural state of being....idle hands and all that Will be about survival for a lot of them. Worrying. "We love you Palace, we f@cking hate Man U, We love you Palace, we hate the brighton too, We love you Palace we play in red 'n' blue, so f@ck you, and you ...

Brentmiester_General

Front line in the battle against t... 20 Jun 18 10.38am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I agree....it's a concern.

We can talk about universal basic income as a tool to mollify the population but in general.....a lot of young people with nothing to do doesn't tend to end well....especially young males.

It's a natural state of being....idle hands and all that

Will be about survival for a lot of them. Worrying.

"We love you Palace, we f@cking hate Man U, We love you Palace, we hate the brighton too, We love you Palace we play in red 'n' blue, so f@ck you, and you ...

Brentmiester_General Front line in the battle against t... 20 Jun 18 10.39am
Not sure if this hasn’t been posted anywhere in this thread? Bit of fun for y’all anyway. [Link] "We love you Palace, we f@cking hate Man U, We love you Palace, we hate the brighton too, We love you Palace we play in red 'n' blue, so f@ck you, and you ...

Brentmiester_General

Front line in the battle against t... 20 Jun 18 10.39am

Not sure if this hasn’t been posted anywhere in this thread? Bit of fun for y’all anyway.
[Link]

"We love you Palace, we f@cking hate Man U, We love you Palace, we hate the brighton too, We love you Palace we play in red 'n' blue, so f@ck you, and you ...

Stirlingsays 20 Jun 18 5.18pm
Tweet from Peter Fonda: We should rip Barron Trump from his mother's arms and put him in a cage with peadophiles and see if mother will stand up against the giant arsehole she is married to. Another tweet: Get the addresses of the ICE agents, CBP agents and surround their homes in protest. We should find out what schools their children go to and surround their schools in protest. These agents are doing this because they want to. They like doing this. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

20 Jun 18 5.18pm

Tweet from Peter Fonda:

We should rip Barron Trump from his mother's arms and put him in a cage with peadophiles and see if mother will stand up against the giant arsehole she is married to.

Another tweet:

Get the addresses of the ICE agents, CBP agents and surround their homes in protest. We should find out what schools their children go to and surround their schools in protest. These agents are doing this because they want to. They like doing this.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Penge Eagle Beckenham 20 Jun 18 8.24pm
Originally posted by Brentmiester_General Not sure if this hasn’t been posted anywhere in this thread? Bit of fun for y’all anyway. [Link] Not sure your point here? He didn't say that quote. Edited by Penge Eagle (20 Jun 2018 8.26pm)

Penge Eagle

Beckenham 20 Jun 18 8.24pm

Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

Not sure if this hasn’t been posted anywhere in this thread? Bit of fun for y’all anyway.
[Link]

Not sure your point here? He didn't say that quote.

Edited by Penge Eagle (20 Jun 2018 8.26pm)

Stirlingsays 21 Jun 18 11.15am
A lot of middle class and societal elites don't get why Trump is popular. They just put it down to what they consider white racism and low IQ working class people being fooled by a billionaire telling them he's one of them. They don't get it. He isn't fooling them. Trump is extremely rich but everything about him screams working class. I know it's silly and in some ways it's absurd because he just isn't....but it's the difference between him winning with the working class and the supposedly democratic party fighting for the downtrodden just couldn't get the numbers. Trump actually likes to eat at McDonalds....it isn't just for photo opportunities. Trump likes wrestling and other non nerdy sports. Trump talks like a typical working class blue collar worker.....it's not put on, it's how he talks. Trump has always had that brusque manner of saying what he thinks and damn what you think about it. That resonates with the working classes who have grown tired with PC culture and its virtue signalling obsession. Trump thinks in terms of 'American Exceptionalism' and that also plays to the working class and higher. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

21 Jun 18 11.15am

A lot of middle class and societal elites don't get why Trump is popular. They just put it down to what they consider white racism and low IQ working class people being fooled by a billionaire telling them he's one of them.

They don't get it. He isn't fooling them.

Trump is extremely rich but everything about him screams working class.

I know it's silly and in some ways it's absurd because he just isn't....but it's the difference between him winning with the working class and the supposedly democratic party fighting for the downtrodden just couldn't get the numbers.

Trump actually likes to eat at McDonalds....it isn't just for photo opportunities.

Trump likes wrestling and other non nerdy sports.

Trump talks like a typical working class blue collar worker.....it's not put on, it's how he talks.

Trump has always had that brusque manner of saying what he thinks and damn what you think about it. That resonates with the working classes who have grown tired with PC culture and its virtue signalling obsession.

Trump thinks in terms of 'American Exceptionalism' and that also plays to the working class and higher.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Beanyboysmd 21 Jun 18 11.30am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays You think the media is 'entirely right wing propaganda with a couple of self congratulatory left wing'? If you don't mind, how old are you? Perhaps this is a generational thing. I remember Sky News before it was detached from Murdoch. That could be called right wing but I'm genuinely struggling to think of right wing TV media. You have a few right wing papers but they have nothing like the same reach that TV news has. Not a problem, im 37. I would say that Sky News is still right wing but I suppose its in the eye of the beholder. I wish I had the link to it bit someone did a test and proved that if you show a 'neutral' news story, both sides will think that the story is 'anto-them'. I think this is why the BBC can put up a story and in the comments they will somehow be accused of being 'pro left' and 'pro right' at the same time. Its the classic 'your either with us or against us' mentality that is more universal than we like to admit...

Beanyboysmd

21 Jun 18 11.30am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

You think the media is 'entirely right wing propaganda with a couple of self congratulatory left wing'?

If you don't mind, how old are you? Perhaps this is a generational thing.

I remember Sky News before it was detached from Murdoch. That could be called right wing but I'm genuinely struggling to think of right wing TV media.

You have a few right wing papers but they have nothing like the same reach that TV news has.

Not a problem, im 37.
I would say that Sky News is still right wing but I suppose its in the eye of the beholder. I wish I had the link to it bit someone did a test and proved that if you show a 'neutral' news story, both sides will think that the story is 'anto-them'. I think this is why the BBC can put up a story and in the comments they will somehow be accused of being 'pro left' and 'pro right' at the same time. Its the classic 'your either with us or against us' mentality that is more universal than we like to admit...

Stirlingsays 21 Jun 18 11.36am
Originally posted by Beanyboysmd Not a problem, im 37. I would say that Sky News is still right wing but I suppose its in the eye of the beholder. I wish I had the link to it bit someone did a test and proved that if you show a 'neutral' news story, both sides will think that the story is 'anto-them'. I think this is why the BBC can put up a story and in the comments they will somehow be accused of being 'pro left' and 'pro right' at the same time. Its the classic 'your either with us or against us' mentality that is more universal than we like to admit... Could you show me an example of this modern day right wing Sky News? I'll show you an example of the real modern day Sky News. A news piece from earlier this year on Antifa. A US domestic terrorism group. Lets see how they covered them shall we. [Link] 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

21 Jun 18 11.36am

Originally posted by Beanyboysmd

Could you show me an example of this modern day right wing Sky News?

I'll show you an example of the real modern day Sky News. A news piece from earlier this year on Antifa.

A US domestic terrorism group. Lets see how they covered them shall we.

[Link]

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Penge Eagle Beckenham 21 Jun 18 11.40am
Sky News and BBC News have the exact same (liberal/left) stories with the same news angle. You only have to open up their websites side by side to see or watch one broadcast after the other.

Penge Eagle

Beckenham 21 Jun 18 11.40am

Sky News and BBC News have the exact same (liberal/left) stories with the same news angle. You only have to open up their websites side by side to see or watch one broadcast after the other.

steeleye20 Croydon 21 Jun 18 1.02pm
Unfortunately Pravda (truth) was closed down by Yeltsin in 1991. Any connection in the UK between the media and the truth is entirely coincidental.

steeleye20

Croydon 21 Jun 18 1.02pm

Unfortunately Pravda (truth) was closed down by Yeltsin in 1991.

Any connection in the UK between the media and the truth is entirely coincidental.

Brentmiester_General Front line in the battle against t... 25 Jun 18 9.42am
This is great. [Link] "We love you Palace, we f@cking hate Man U, We love you Palace, we hate the brighton too, We love you Palace we play in red 'n' blue, so f@ck you, and you ...

Brentmiester_General

Front line in the battle against t... 25 Jun 18 9.42am

This is great.

[Link]

"We love you Palace, we f@cking hate Man U, We love you Palace, we hate the brighton too, We love you Palace we play in red 'n' blue, so f@ck you, and you ...

Stirlingsays 25 Jun 18 10.49am
Originally posted by Brentmiester_General This is great. [Link] Yep, it's great.....I see the points he's making, it's just cloaked in that Trump-like, 'I don't give a feck' non PC language. The only issue would be the Chinese comment.....Which Trump since clarified wasn't a compliment. Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Jun 2018 11.42am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

25 Jun 18 10.49am

Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

This is great.

[Link]

Yep, it's great.....I see the points he's making, it's just cloaked in that Trump-like, 'I don't give a feck' non PC language.

The only issue would be the Chinese comment.....Which Trump since clarified wasn't a compliment.

Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Jun 2018 11.42am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Brentmiester_General Front line in the battle against t... 25 Jun 18 9.20pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Yep, it's great.....I see the points he's making, it's just cloaked in that Trump-like, 'I don't give a feck' non PC language. The only issue would be the Chinese comment.....Which Trump since clarified wasn't a compliment. Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Jun 2018 11.42am) I actually meant that someone bought the domain name and did that site. "We love you Palace, we f@cking hate Man U, We love you Palace, we hate the brighton too, We love you Palace we play in red 'n' blue, so f@ck you, and you ...

Brentmiester_General

Front line in the battle against t... 25 Jun 18 9.20pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Yep, it's great.....I see the points he's making, it's just cloaked in that Trump-like, 'I don't give a feck' non PC language.

The only issue would be the Chinese comment.....Which Trump since clarified wasn't a compliment.

Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Jun 2018 11.42am)

I actually meant that someone bought the domain name and did that site.

"We love you Palace, we f@cking hate Man U, We love you Palace, we hate the brighton too, We love you Palace we play in red 'n' blue, so f@ck you, and you ...

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