Because people will pull him on the contradictions and the BS.

COYP

One or 2 things I thought of recently were:

If Sterling fell 10% roughly and tariffs were imposed of roughly 10%, then an equilibrium would be roughly achieved. Sure imported prices would rise but the small rise in wages could offset that rise.

The net benefit of immigration. We all know a lot, but not all, East European males and some females come to work, live among more house sharers than is usual and then take their savings back home. Fair play to them. But this falsehood that cheap labour is only beneficial to the country and economy is nonsense. As Farage said, and reps from respected bodies have said, the benefit is about level. They do not all spend their money here after paying their taxes and some never will.

People with a good level of intelligence have suddenly been very accurate at predicting UK economic crises yet previously hadn't a scooby doo.

Farage also said that those who have criticised the EU and backed Brexit for the long-term benefit of the country have done so after leaving these respected bodies people are quoting. Hmmm.

COYP

You are, of course, completely right.

From the weekly £350m EU bill, we receive
£90m cashback,
£85m worth of 50% discount coupons
£175m "handling charge"

Please note the cashback is by no means guaranteed. Moreover, if we happen to do better than other countries, that handling charge increases. Last year, the handling charge increased by +£32.7m.

How would you be rating that kind of offer on "hotukdeals"?

It's funny how many public figures are ex-Goldman Sachs, including our very own adopted 'unbiased' Governor of the Bank of England.

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It should be measured as a % of either

tax
Govt spending
Govt borrowing

because that is the issue. Where you put it has a multiplier effect as well.

COYP

Meanwhile, in the rest of the world (over 160 nations - remember them?), countries don't pay ANYTHING to access their respective markets. Where possible, they seek to bring down the type of protectionist barriers the EU has put up. They've realised that protectionist trade barriers and over-regulation are an albatross for global trade.

Someone on here mentioned tariffs and Africa a few pages back...

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You can leave and end foreigners in PL. Tempting, isn't it?

I, your glass,
Will modestly discover to yourself
That of yourself which yet you know not of.

Is there any chance that somebody can now make this EU Referendum go away?

SO incredibly fed up by mass distortion of truth, even lies, from both campaigning sides. Have never known UK political system fall in moral standards to an all-time low.

Perhaps, but it made me chuckle and has a lovely alliterative feel to it.

Now Himself, I'd have some respect for you if you actually debated the issue at hand rather than taking swipes at a handful of posters because they have a different opinion to you. It does seem to me that you go quiet when people give reasonable responses or use phrases such as 'bum gravy' or 'lefty drivel'. For instance I have given a perfectly good response to your accusations of anti semetism within Labour. Suddenly you have gone quiet. The cynic in me thinks that you are just picking issues in order to goad certain posters on here. That is bad form.

Back to the referendum, the more research i do, the more I am finding it hard to make a choice. I was surprised to see that contributions to the EU form a tiny part of actual U.K spending. This made me think that it is a small price to play to stay within a large trading block. I see myself as British and European, however the jingoism that some seem to associate with national 'pride' sits uneasy with me as it can verge on racism. I'm also perturbed by all the things that various brexiters claim we could spend the money saved on. particularly when you get the likes og Gove and IDS suddenly caring about the NHS whilst being in a party that is decimating it in order to privatise.
I agree that the eu has done a good job ensuring rights for individuals across the eu, however the fact that those behind the scenes so to speak are pushing a neoliberal agenda.
I think that the role of MEP's should be played up, after all they are the ones who vote on plans put forward by the commision - it's upsetting that our UKIP representatives in th european parliament are reticent to vote on many things, it's hardly helping us get the best outcomes for U.K citizens is it?

The fact that we haven't had any sort of a clear idea what would happen post brexit pushes me toward remain, as does the fact that we have a much better chance of reform if we stay in and find like minded idealists across the continent to push a better agenda. Also pushing me towards remain is the fact I think that an exit would allow the currenyt lot in power to push forward ideological austerity meaures. However, counter to this, I think the EU have been complicit in stitching Greece up so much that they have no chance of sorting our their mess as debt interest is in Wonga proportions. Additionally the fact that they've been forced to hand over public assets to conglomerates for peanuts sits uneasily with me.

What to do?

Edited by nickgusset (08 Jun 2016 9.36am)

Agree with most of your post, but the bold bit is the part that I think is a bit "pie-in-the-sky". Cameron went to Europe to renegotiate, and was taken roughly from behind. Once the referendum result is in, if it's a "remain" then he has no bargaining chips at all. He keeps mentioning this idea of "staying in a reformed EU", either blind to the fact or willfully ignoring it.

The EU will never reform.