Not to mention that Evans, under caution to the police admitted to having sex with the victim. All they have to do then is show 'its reasonable' to believe she was incapable of giving reasonable consent.

Like the footage prior to the event, of her staggering, or the fact she was sick (something Evans acknowledge to the Night Manager on leaving).

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The part that always get overlooked in these types of scenarios is any kind of motive for the victim to be lying. This girl has suffered an egregious personal indignity, had to endure the court system and all of its humiliating machinations (legitimate, in the pursuit of truth) and has since had her life turned into a living hell. Why the eff would she perpetuate a lie through all of that?

Meanwhile, Evans admits to having sex with a girl who he - by his own words - knew to be drunk. He has been defending his reputation, liberty and career ever since. To me, there is a massive imbalance between Evans and the girl as to who has motive to be lying. And it's not in Evans' favour.

Here's a simple tip for all of us with a Y chromosome: unless you get explicit consent, hopefully enthusiastically explicit consent, don't have sex with her. Also, she can withdraw her consent at any time up to and including during the vinegar strokes; your desire to nut does not override her personal rights. Basically, if you're not sure, go home and knock one out - everyone will be happier for it.

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

Being someone who helped run a pub for five years in their twenties and spent a time as a bouncer in nightclubs and in both instances saw quite a bit of stuff I'm inherently suspicious of the certainties that Jamie and others have as too this ladies capabilities.

This case to me is rife with possibilities.....What I can know from the evidence is that this guy Ched is a t***...I can say that it's possible that he raped this girl. What I can't say with reasonable certainty is that he did.....From what I've heard of the evidence this conviction should never have stood.

But it's atypical with where the courts are heading with rape.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Jan 2015 2.17am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Yeah Jamie, girls who have been staggering and have been sick don't remain conscious during sex shortly afterwards.

Blimey.....This happens all the bleeding time.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Jan 2015 2.21am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Based on a lot of the posts in here deeming rape as girl gets drunk, stumbles, does a sick, gives a BJ and has a dirty wet put in her, I reckon there must be about 50 rapes a day in the summer months in just Ibiza, Magaluf and Malia alone.

I'm not saying he did or didn't rape her, I just think a lot of people are very quick to say he did with a real matter of fact attitude and then back it up with 'he was convicted'. There are a hell of a lot of wrong convictions, it's not unthinkable to think this may be one of them and the reason he shows little remorse is he is adamant he took part in consensual sex, whether his way of doing it was exceptionally sleazy or not.

In the Mirror it says Evans fiancee's dad has promised to make up any income lost by sponsors pulling out

Trivial fact - Palace used to win 5-1 at least once a season, maybe next season?