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glazedallover Flag Allier 06 Jan 22 9.43pm

Don't they just. Cnut.

 

cryrst Flag The garden of England 06 Jan 22 9.49pm

Yes and have you not seen she's already had half a million and she's back for more.
Your unfathomable hatred of authority has clouded your views.
And thanks for the compliment because they're useful as well

 

cryrst Flag The garden of England 06 Jan 22 9.51pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

Deeply unpleasant post

Look her up on Wikipedia

On the streets and later clearly groomed from the age of 14. Not her fault she wasn’t properly parented

Passed around for sex that she didn’t want with the promise of being trained as a masseuse

Went to Thailand in the end to train, met a man, married and settled so it’s pretty obvious she didn’t relish the life she was coerced to lead.

If you were handed a 17 year old for sex at your whim as a 40 year old man do you think you would be comfortable with that?

I am really surprised it is you making that comment, I have you down as a moral man.

Edited by Mapletree (06 Jan 2022 8.31pm)

The crap directed at tory voters on here would never have me down as a moral man maple. I think TR was and is correct, immigrants without good reason should go back, workshy feckless individuals should be forced to get a job and I think brexit is fantastic.

 

cryrst Flag The garden of England 06 Jan 22 9.53pm

Originally posted by the.universal

This comment doesn’t show you in a very good light.

To be brutally honest I don't really care. If more people stopped beating around the Bush and run from facts the world would be a better place. Woke this and woke that. Don't offend anyone. What a load of bollox.

 

the.universal 06 Jan 22 10.01pm

Originally posted by cryrst

To be brutally honest I don't really care. If more people stopped beating around the Bush and run from facts the world would be a better place. Woke this and woke that. Don't offend anyone. What a load of bollox.

Fair enough, you are entitled to your view.

 


Vive le Roy!

Mapletree Flag Croydon 06 Jan 22 10.09pm

Originally posted by cryrst

To be brutally honest I don't really care. If more people stopped beating around the Bush and run from facts the world would be a better place. Woke this and woke that. Don't offend anyone. What a load of bollox.

Have you read the details about Giuffre? I found them compelling and distressing.

She may or may not be a gold digger. Whichever, she had a shocking childhood and was preyed upon by adults whilst a child. If she gives them a kicking they surely deserve it. How else do you suggest she does that?

Maybe she could set up a support group, it could set aims such as to help survivors surmount the shame, silence, and intimidation typically experienced by victims of sexual abuse, and help others to escape becoming victims of sex trafficking.

 

cryrst Flag The garden of England 06 Jan 22 10.24pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

Have you read the details about Giuffre? I found them compelling and distressing.

She may or may not be a gold digger. Whichever, she had a shocking childhood and was preyed upon by adults whilst a child. If she gives them a kicking they surely deserve it. How else do you suggest she does that?

Maybe she could set up a support group, it could set aims such as to help survivors surmount the shame, silence, and intimidation typically experienced by victims of sexual abuse, and help others to escape becoming victims of sex trafficking.

Yes she may well do if she gets a bucket load of money.
Frankly though I reckon there is more chance of Nelson getting his eye back.

 

cryrst Flag The garden of England 06 Jan 22 10.24pm

Originally posted by the.universal

Fair enough, you are entitled to your view.

I appreciate your grown up reply. Thank you

 

Mapletree Flag Croydon 06 Jan 22 10.26pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Yes she may well do if she gets a bucket load of money.
Frankly though I reckon there is more chance of Nelson getting his eye back.

I knew you weren’t concentrating

She created Victims Refuse Silence in 2015.

 

cryrst Flag The garden of England 06 Jan 22 10.37pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

I knew you weren’t concentrating

She created Victims Refuse Silence in 2015.

Nope I wasn't but I still think this particular episode is about money.

 

Mapletree Flag Croydon 06 Jan 22 10.42pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Nope I wasn't but I still think this particular episode is about money.

It’s an American issue. It always becomes about money, they have no other means of communication.

 

cryrst Flag The garden of England 06 Jan 22 10.45pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

It’s an American issue. It always becomes about money, they have no other means of communication.

So apart from the slapper bit I was correct then.
Follow the money.

 

Mapletree Flag Croydon 06 Jan 22 10.52pm

Originally posted by cryrst

So apart from the slapper bit I was correct then.
Follow the money.

It’s really not on to say that a girl who was sex trafficked and groomed from the age of 14 was a slapper

It’s the worst form of victim blaming and I genuinely object. Please stop it. Where are the people on here who claimed to care about paedophilia now?

 

HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 06 Jan 22 11.26pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

I knew you weren’t concentrating

She created Victims Refuse Silence in 2015.

VRS has a huge 1100 followers on Facebook. Appears to have been set up as a tool to assist if she tries to reveal information she has been handsomely paid not to.

I don't have any sympathy for people traffickers etc but any process needs to follow the law. It's not about personalities. Too bad so many showed less enthusiasm in pursuing domestic offences on an industrial scale.

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

cryrst Flag The garden of England 06 Jan 22 11.38pm

Originally posted by HKOwen

VRS has a huge 1100 followers on Facebook. Appears to have been set up as a tool to assist if she tries to reveal information she has been handsomely paid not to.

I don't have any sympathy for people traffickers etc but any process needs to follow the law. It's not about personalities. Too bad so many showed less enthusiasm in pursuing domestic offences on an industrial scale.

Yup and I'm the hypocrite apparently!

 

glazedallover Flag Allier 06 Jan 22 11.44pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Yup and I'm the hypocrite apparently!

But more importantly you are a hypocritical Cnut . Loud and clear.

 

HeathMan Flag Purley 07 Jan 22 2.21am

Was thinking about a few lines on party hosts and hostesses, but considered the risk of a yellow or red card from HOL moderators.

 

cryrst Flag The garden of England 07 Jan 22 6.15am

Originally posted by glazedallover

But more importantly you are a hypocritical Cnut . Loud and clear.

And thanks again. BTW I didn't report it as its not in my make up to be a grass. You got your own one there!

 

Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 07 Jan 22 6.24am

Andy set himself up for this 'pre-trial' stuff with his own badly executed interview, in which he himself put forward 'evidence' of a visit to PizzaHut and a sweaty medical condition ...and the trump card of never even meeting the girl.

With subsequent disclosures, all his assertions were exposed as fabrications. And he's hired a really pl55-poor legal team

And I am in no doubt, however the matter is resolved, it is the British Taxpayer AGAIN, who will ultimately foot the bill for reckless behaviour of "public servants".

Asian paedophile gangs are now similarly being exposed. Too late to stop a lot of the damage done to minors, but hopefully these scum will be brought to account also.

 


I disengage, I turn the page.

Teddy Eagle Flag 07 Jan 22 8.46am

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

Andy set himself up for this 'pre-trial' stuff with his own badly executed interview, in which he himself put forward 'evidence' of a visit to PizzaHut and a sweaty medical condition ...and the trump card of never even meeting the girl.

With subsequent disclosures, all his assertions were exposed as fabrications. And he's hired a really pl55-poor legal team

And I am in no doubt, however the matter is resolved, it is the British Taxpayer AGAIN, who will ultimately foot the bill for reckless behaviour of "public servants".

Asian paedophile gangs are now similarly being exposed. Too late to stop a lot of the damage done to minors, but hopefully these scum will be brought to account also.

One aspect of the interview that shone out was that he didn’t seem to think he’d done anything wrong and actually tried to claim he’d done the honourable thing by sticking by Epstein despite the allegations against him. I guess that might be a bit more understandable if they had been lifelong friends but not in this case. He just came over as an incredibly privileged person who is unused to being questioned in any way - droit de seigneur personified.
Regarding the girl(s) involved it’s yet another sad case case of poor people, in this case underage, being exploited by rich men. The even sadder thing is that it is still going on all over the world.

 

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