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Wilesy01 Flag Bristol 29 Jun 20 10.49pm

Originally posted by Willo

Personally I would have pushed one of the central defenders up front with 15 mins remaining to give us some height in attack and urged the players to get the ball into the area. We made it far too comfortable for Burnley.

As for Meyer, what on earth does he offer our team?

I don't dispute for what earns we should expect more from Meyer but it doesn't help that he's constantly deployed out of position.

He isn't, nor will he ever be a winger so why does Roy insist on playing him there? He'd learn far more to opt for Pierrick out wide and instead rotate Max for Macca so we can utilise his playmaking skills in the middle.

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 29 Jun 20 10.57pm

Originally posted by Wilesy01

I don't dispute for what earns we should expect more from Meyer but it doesn't help that he's constantly deployed out of position.

He isn't, nor will he ever be a winger so why does Roy insist on playing him there? He'd learn far more to opt for Pierrick out wide and instead rotate Max for Macca so we can utilise his playmaking skills in the middle.

Meyer is not a winger nor does he fit into our team pattern in midfield.
It is in his and the club's interests that he departs.

Apropos the game tonight, PVA is better attacking than defending yet where was the linkup play with Zaha down the left? It was far too easy for the Burnley players surrounding Zaha - an overlapping PVA would have given them more problems.

 

Sportyteacher Flag London 29 Jun 20 10.58pm

Massively lacklustre performance tonight with Burnley the better team. The games where we are playing those teams around us as well as below us are the ones that need to be targeted for wins but Palace just didn't look anywhere near as determined as The Clarets. Ayew v. fortunate to still be on the pitch following look up then elbow to the face.

Sorry but Palace is evidently nowhere near ready for Europe and given likelihood of several key players leaving, the summer transfer market is now imperative for acquisition of quality replacements / additions.

 

jeeagles Flag 29 Jun 20 11.09pm

Originally posted by Willo

Personally I would have pushed one of the central defenders up front with 15 mins remaining to give us some height in attack and urged the players to get the ball into the area. We made it far too comfortable for Burnley.

As for Meyer, what on earth does he offer our team?

Decent suggestion.

Mayer played the ball into Cahill in the closing minutes for his header. Excellent ball in, and Cahill seemed to have someone lurking behind him. Just taking off Townsend made no sense.

Our other midfielders can't seem to do that which is why our defence was constantly under pressure in the first half.

Don't think Zaha deserves the criticism he's getting. Pretty much doubled up on all game with no real support. I've seen a few times that PVA will go on a bit of a run then do a two yard pass to Zaha in front of the defence. Cant work out the point in that. They need to find space to take players out of the game and not play is the same space. Shows just how we hope to give the ball to Wilf and hopes he does something special. You cant rely on that and Dyche set Burnley up well to counter it.

Ayew was our worst player tonight I thought, made the wrong decision on a lot of occation. Otherwise no poor individual performances.

1 goal every 120 minutes at home this season. About 5 from open play at home last season, a negative approach to chasing a game when relegation is almost impossible. 4 wins in a row sounds impressive, but Watford, Brighton, Bournemouth, and Newcastle are all games we should expect to win.

I'd have put Max in for Jimmy Mac, possibly Riedewald on for Luka. Fresh legs who can go nuts for 20 minutes.

Then if your really chasing the game Pierrick and Woods for the full backs. 3-2-3-2.

 

Wilbraham413 Flag 29 Jun 20 11.10pm

Originally posted by EddieMac Let’s be honest with ourselves we are blessed to be not fighting relegation.

With the lack of investment in the squad, the oldest squad in the division, 1 right back, basically no strikers. Our injuries list this season this year was horrific earlier on.

We are not ready for Europe so il take 12th place.

I agree with this. And especially given Zaha has done nothing all year. It's a miracle that we have 42 points, and this is the most comfortable position we've been in at this stage of the season in at least the past 5 years.

Kudos to Roy for that, and maybe some luck too.

That being said, I love Townsend and Luka, but it looks like they both belong on the bench. They contribute very little. I also would be happy not to see Meyer on again.

No idea why Riedewald can't get on the field. That baffles me.

 


2017 Feb. (Van Aanholt) Palace 1 - 0 Middlesboro
2018 Jan. (Sako) Palace 1 - 0 Burnley
2019 May (Batshuayi, Batshuayi, OG, Van Aanholt, Townsend) Palace 5 - 3 Bournemouth
2020 Feb. (Van Aanholt) Palace 1 - 0 Newcastle

Palacesince64 Flag Edinburgh 29 Jun 20 11.29pm

One of the TV pundits said recently that Roy will always keep Palace up because he organises his team so well. Unfortunately he only plays with a 15 man squad so will never finish above half way either. The board have to decide if they’re happy with safety or want to aim higher. Now is the time to decide.

With an average age of 31 tonight we should forget Europe and play Mitchell Pierrick and Woods for the rest of the season and give guys like Riedewald and Meyer enough game time to decide whether they are good enough or not. If we don’t even Roy’s organisation might not be enough to keep us up next season.

 

hayling eagle Flag 29 Jun 20 11.31pm

Now can we stop any silly talk about Europe next season. With 28 goals from 32 games we should be grateful we're as far up the table as we are

 

cannoneagle Flag 29 Jun 20 11.36pm

Makes you realise how bad Bournemouth are, they are down and out!!

 

cannoneagle Flag 29 Jun 20 11.38pm

Agreed

Originally posted by Palacesince64

One of the TV pundits said recently that Roy will always keep Palace up because he organises his team so well. Unfortunately he only plays with a 15 man squad so will never finish above half way either. The board have to decide if they’re happy with safety or want to aim higher. Now is the time to decide.

With an average age of 31 tonight we should forget Europe and play Mitchell Pierrick and Woods for the rest of the season and give guys like Riedewald and Meyer enough game time to decide whether they are good enough or not. If we don’t even Roy’s organisation might not be enough to keep us up next season.

 

BlueJay Flag UK 30 Jun 20 12.51am

Not our best tonight by a long shot. We should've gone at them but instead offered very little. The poor home performance strikes again.

 

The Dolphin Flag 30 Jun 20 6.09am

Whatever happens in the close season an inventive centre midfield player is a must.
Oh - and a goalscorer of course!

 

pompeyeagle Flag Relocated to Shropshire 30 Jun 20 7.19am

Originally posted by Palacesince64

One of the TV pundits said recently that Roy will always keep Palace up because he organises his team so well. Unfortunately he only plays with a 15 man squad so will never finish above half way either. The board have to decide if they’re happy with safety or want to aim higher. Now is the time to decide.

With an average age of 31 tonight we should forget Europe and play Mitchell Pierrick and Woods for the rest of the season and give guys like Riedewald and Meyer enough game time to decide whether they are good enough or not. If we don’t even Roy’s organisation might not be enough to keep us up next season.

There seems a good possibility that both Dyche and Howe will become available in the near future. Either will do for me if Parish wants the club to make progress otherwise we can look forward to another season of boring defensive football with no prospect of youngsters being given a chance.

 

PatrickA Flag London 30 Jun 20 7.25am

Burnley we’re without their three strikers - Wood, Barnes and Rodriguez.
Gudjohnson and Hendricks were also absent from their midfield.
With this in mind can anyone explain why we largely played with 10 behind the ball in the first half as if we were playing Man City?
Ray Lewington has said in the past that Hodgson plays the same way regardless of the opposition but surely a case can be made for a change of approach when playing severely weakened opponents.
We had a strong back four against a lone striker in Vydra.
Do we really need three essentially defensive midfielders in such a game?
There’s a myth about Palace that we play with two pacy wingers who get around the back of opponents to create opportunities.
This may have been true in previous seasons but neither Townsend nor Zaha have shown such inclination this season.
Both spend most of their time knocking the ball back to Ward and PVA or into midfield.
Luka has been shocking this season and seems to be excused as he scored one good goal v Bournemouth.
With our appalling goal scoring record, in particular at home, we have done well to amass 42 points.
When the system is not working , as it clearly wasn’t yesterday, why not amend the tactics and use different players to try and ask Burnley different questions?
We are so predictable and once they went one up it seemed inevitable they would see the game out with Palace pursuing the same easy to read game plan.

 

MKCPFC Flag Spain/MK 30 Jun 20 7.41am

Well the better team won on the night , but it should have been 0-0 , Guaita cost us a point.

The last two games highlights that we do miss Benteke.

Had he played and without Guaita error I think the result would have been reversed.

 

babylonjohn Flag St Leonards-on-Sea 30 Jun 20 7.59am

What a shower of S**t. Our aging team of prima donnas have shown they can barely manage 1 game a week and Roy clearly has a problem playing anyone close to his grandkids age who may offer a bit more energy. Our squad is a million miles away from competing in Europe and without some serious investment it would be a total embarrassment.

 

EddieMac Flag 30 Jun 20 8.01am

Originally posted by MKCPFC

Well the better team won on the night , but it should have been 0-0 , Guaita cost us a point.

The last two games highlights that we do miss Benteke.

Had he played and without Guaita error I think the result would have been reversed.

I agree. Ayew is not an out and out striker. We also need an upgrade big time time on Townsend, he offers absolutely nothing anymore.

 

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 30 Jun 20 8.03am

Originally posted by EddieMac

I agree. Ayew is not an out and out striker. We also need an upgrade big time time on Townsend, he offers absolutely nothing anymore.

Apart from an excellent impersonation of a headless chicken.

 


One more point

babylonjohn Flag St Leonards-on-Sea 30 Jun 20 8.22am

Originally posted by EddieMac

I agree. Ayew is not an out and out striker. We also need an upgrade big time time on Townsend, he offers absolutely nothing anymore.

Townsend is just too predictable. He has the air of a man trying to prove a point and show that he still has that magic. If I know that he's going to try and cut back in and fire off a left footed screamer then so does the defender.

 

Eaglecoops Flag CR3 30 Jun 20 8.39am

What I don't understand is why we play with 2 wide men with no centre forward. Ayew is not a target man. If you are going to play without Benteke then you should revert to 4-4-2 with Zaha and Ayew up front together as a floating 2 who can move where they see the space and then have two defensive midfielders (probably Jimmy Mc and Milivojevic) and two creative midfielders who can pass the ball to feet (Riedewald and Meyer). It is pointless trying to hammer the ball in the air or cross from the wings if there is no-one in the middle.

This becomes a plan B, but unfortunately Roy doesn't use a plan B.

I agree with some that Andros is not the player he was. Pierrick deserves a chance to show what he can do if we want some width or some more pace on the pitch.

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 30 Jun 20 8.56am

In the first half I said to my dear wife that I just could not see us scoring from 'Open play'.
Admittedly we had the 'Lion's share' of possession in the second half but did damn all with it.
Ayew looked lost in that central role but Hodgson did nothing to change things.

At least I never had to drive all the way back to the south coast in the dark afterwards!

 

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