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PJEagle London 14 Jun 24 8.46am
Originally posted by dreamwaverider For Chelsea say £80m to us for non Champions league plus say £30m to Olise, and say £300K/week. About the same as Caecedo. A steal. [Link] What will we do with ourselves when the rumour mill stops turning?

PJEagle

London 14 Jun 24 8.46am

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

For Chelsea say £80m to us for non Champions league plus say £30m to Olise, and say £300K/week.
About the same as Caecedo. A steal.

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What will we do with ourselves when the rumour mill stops turning?

mileend East London 14 Jun 24 8.56am
I am quite encouraged that the FFP / PSR are having some impact and that some of the stupid money buying clubs who haven't paid any attention to financials have not anticipated it actually having any teeth Namely those who have spent big, and critically handed over stupidly massive salaries on players with huge reputations who have undelivered. Not only has their value plummeted but they can't even take the loss on those players and sell them cheaper because the salaries are too big for any prospective buyers and of course the players won't take a pay cut Chelsea and Man Utd I am looking at you But Newcastle, who haven't gone totally nuts with unlimited funds, have spent enough to be constrained. Man City are in a different battle that could rip up the PL completely. Villa don't have the spare cash and are not an exciting destination for Olise / Eze even though in the Champions League Arsenal and Liverpool, like Man City, could be options (threats) but of course they have good teams already do game time is limited for new signings Michael, stick with Palace for another year while things settle down, it will be lots of fun and the grass is not always greener!

mileend

East London 14 Jun 24 8.56am

I am quite encouraged that the FFP / PSR are having some impact and that some of the stupid money buying clubs who haven't paid any attention to financials have not anticipated it actually having any teeth

Namely those who have spent big, and critically handed over stupidly massive salaries on players with huge reputations who have undelivered.

Not only has their value plummeted but they can't even take the loss on those players and sell them cheaper because the salaries are too big for any prospective buyers and of course the players won't take a pay cut

Chelsea and Man Utd I am looking at you

But Newcastle, who haven't gone totally nuts with unlimited funds, have spent enough to be constrained.

Man City are in a different battle that could rip up the PL completely.

Villa don't have the spare cash and are not an exciting destination for Olise / Eze even though in the Champions League

Arsenal and Liverpool, like Man City, could be options (threats) but of course they have good teams already do game time is limited for new signings

Michael, stick with Palace for another year while things settle down, it will be lots of fun and the grass is not always greener!

doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 14 Jun 24 9.46am
It appears one CL club has approached Palace re Olise - namely Bayern München (as per The Athletic). He should get perennial CL football with them even with Kompany at the helm.

doombear

Too far from Selhurst Park 14 Jun 24 9.46am

It appears one CL club has approached Palace re Olise - namely Bayern München (as per The Athletic). He should get perennial CL football with them even with Kompany at the helm.

mileend East London 14 Jun 24 9.53am
Originally posted by doombear It appears one CL club has approached Palace re Olise - namely Bayern München (as per The Athletic). He should get perennial CL football with them even with Kompany at the helm. Since he has the world at his feet I guess it will depend if that is his dream? If it's Man Utd (vomit noises) he may have to wait another year but no guarantee that basket case will be in a CL spot then either

mileend

East London 14 Jun 24 9.53am

Originally posted by doombear

It appears one CL club has approached Palace re Olise - namely Bayern München (as per The Athletic). He should get perennial CL football with them even with Kompany at the helm.

Since he has the world at his feet I guess it will depend if that is his dream?

If it's Man Utd (vomit noises) he may have to wait another year but no guarantee that basket case will be in a CL spot then either

eritheagle Erith 14 Jun 24 10.07am
Originally posted by mileend I am quite encouraged that the FFP / PSR are having some impact and that some of the stupid money buying clubs who haven't paid any attention to financials have not anticipated it actually having any teeth Namely those who have spent big, and critically handed over stupidly massive salaries on players with huge reputations who have undelivered. Not only has their value plummeted but they can't even take the loss on those players and sell them cheaper because the salaries are too big for any prospective buyers and of course the players won't take a pay cut Chelsea and Man Utd I am looking at you But Newcastle, who haven't gone totally nuts with unlimited funds, have spent enough to be constrained. Man City are in a different battle that could rip up the PL completely. Villa don't have the spare cash and are not an exciting destination for Olise / Eze even though in the Champions League Arsenal and Liverpool, like Man City, could be options (threats) but of course they have good teams already do game time is limited for new signings Michael, stick with Palace for another year while things settle down, it will be lots of fun and the grass is not always greener! Even with FFP rules Man U have found £70m from somewhere to bid for Braithwaite!

eritheagle

Erith 14 Jun 24 10.07am

Originally posted by mileend

Namely those who have spent big, and critically handed over stupidly massive salaries on players with huge reputations who have undelivered.

Chelsea and Man Utd I am looking at you

But Newcastle, who haven't gone totally nuts with unlimited funds, have spent enough to be constrained.

Man City are in a different battle that could rip up the PL completely.

Villa don't have the spare cash and are not an exciting destination for Olise / Eze even though in the Champions League

Arsenal and Liverpool, like Man City, could be options (threats) but of course they have good teams already do game time is limited for new signings

Michael, stick with Palace for another year while things settle down, it will be lots of fun and the grass is not always greener!

Even with FFP rules Man U have found £70m from somewhere to bid for Braithwaite!

doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 14 Jun 24 10.35am
Originally posted by eritheagle Even with FFP rules Man U have found £70m from somewhere to bid for Braithwaite! Isn't he a West Indian cricketer? No, I'm thinking of Brathwaite - sorry Brathwaite, Braithwaite, Branthwaite - so confusing! Edited by doombear (14 Jun 2024 10.37am) Edited by doombear (14 Jun 2024 10.38am)

doombear

Too far from Selhurst Park 14 Jun 24 10.35am

Originally posted by eritheagle

Even with FFP rules Man U have found £70m from somewhere to bid for Braithwaite!

Isn't he a West Indian cricketer?

No, I'm thinking of Brathwaite - sorry
Brathwaite, Braithwaite, Branthwaite - so confusing!

Edited by doombear (14 Jun 2024 10.37am)

Edited by doombear (14 Jun 2024 10.38am)

dreamwaverider London 14 Jun 24 11.21am
Originally posted by eritheagle Even with FFP rules Man U have found £70m from somewhere to bid for Braithwaite! And after him........???

dreamwaverider

London 14 Jun 24 11.21am

Originally posted by eritheagle

Even with FFP rules Man U have found £70m from somewhere to bid for Braithwaite!

And after him........???

taylors lovechild 14 Jun 24 11.27am
Originally posted by doombear It appears one CL club has approached Palace re Olise - namely Bayern München (as per The Athletic). He should get perennial CL football with them even with Kompany at the helm. This or Man City would seem like a proper step up. I still wouldn't be surprised if PSG show up with an offer, which I still maintain may be an ideal move for a player who wants to play for France, with PSG also regularly reaching the latter stages of the CL. If he goes to Newcastle then he clearly isn't that ambitious. As it is I still hope he wants to give Palace one more season.

taylors lovechild

14 Jun 24 11.27am

Originally posted by doombear

It appears one CL club has approached Palace re Olise - namely Bayern München (as per The Athletic). He should get perennial CL football with them even with Kompany at the helm.

This or Man City would seem like a proper step up. I still wouldn't be surprised if PSG show up with an offer, which I still maintain may be an ideal move for a player who wants to play for France, with PSG also regularly reaching the latter stages of the CL. If he goes to Newcastle then he clearly isn't that ambitious.

As it is I still hope he wants to give Palace one more season.

Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 14 Jun 24 11.59am
Originally posted by taylors lovechild This or Man City would seem like a proper step up. I still wouldn't be surprised if PSG show up with an offer, which I still maintain may be an ideal move for a player who wants to play for France, with PSG also regularly reaching the latter stages of the CL. If he goes to Newcastle then he clearly isn't that ambitious. As it is I still hope he wants to give Palace one more season. If Chelsea, Newcastle or Man Utd want him and he wants to go they will have to dig a lot deeper than 60m, Bayern would be a decent move for him, Man City will ruin him Grealish style, he and Eze should stay until they get an offer from PSG, Real Madrid or Barcelona, the easy life. “That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

Lanzo-Ad

Lanzarote 14 Jun 24 11.59am

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

As it is I still hope he wants to give Palace one more season.

If Chelsea, Newcastle or Man Utd want him and he wants to go they will have to dig a lot deeper than 60m, Bayern would be a decent move for him, Man City will ruin him Grealish style, he and Eze should stay until they get an offer from PSG, Real Madrid or Barcelona, the easy life.

“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

taylors lovechild 14 Jun 24 12.32pm
If you believe in yourself as a footballer then you don't say no to City, regardless of how well any of us think a player might fit in. For me, Olise would fit in City like a glove with the way he plays. Unlike Eze he seems less interested in beating multiple players and the precision of his passing, crossing, and shooting is getting better and better.

taylors lovechild

14 Jun 24 12.32pm

If you believe in yourself as a footballer then you don't say no to City, regardless of how well any of us think a player might fit in. For me, Olise would fit in City like a glove with the way he plays. Unlike Eze he seems less interested in beating multiple players and the precision of his passing, crossing, and shooting is getting better and better.

dreamwaverider London 14 Jun 24 1.11pm
Originally posted by taylors lovechild This or Man City would seem like a proper step up. I still wouldn't be surprised if PSG show up with an offer, which I still maintain may be an ideal move for a player who wants to play for France, with PSG also regularly reaching the latter stages of the CL. If he goes to Newcastle then he clearly isn't that ambitious. As it is I still hope he wants to give Palace one more season. Bang on. All of it.

dreamwaverider

London 14 Jun 24 1.11pm

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

As it is I still hope he wants to give Palace one more season.

Bang on. All of it.

XKudu The Midlands, England 14 Jun 24 1.37pm
I’ll be gutted if Olise goes to Chelsea but a premium sale price should soften the blow. Parish & Freedman however need to be very careful they don’t get suckered into taking 1 or 2 of Chelsea badly performing players from last season. My Chelsea mates are desperate to get rid of 5 or 6 dead wood players and Madueke’s name crops up more than most. I watched him towards the end of the season and was shocked at how bad he was. His name is now being touted around in the media as a potential “good swap” Yeah right. Nice try guys!!!

XKudu

The Midlands, England 14 Jun 24 1.37pm

I’ll be gutted if Olise goes to Chelsea but a premium sale price should soften the blow.

Parish & Freedman however need to be very careful they don’t get suckered into taking 1 or 2 of Chelsea badly performing players from last season. My Chelsea mates are desperate to get rid of 5 or 6 dead wood players and Madueke’s name crops up more than most. I watched him towards the end of the season and was shocked at how bad he was. His name is now being touted around in the media as a potential “good swap” Yeah right. Nice try guys!!!

MFW94 Sutton 14 Jun 24 1.51pm
I think its clearly chelsea briefing the media to unsettle the player. Chelsea apparently need to sell players for PSR/FFP - but look like they're getting around this with selling all their hotel, training grounds, women's team to the Owners. As for links to Newcastle - LOL I could see him going to City, wouldn't begrudge him going their or Bayern to be honest, as long as we get the money. Edited by MFW94 (14 Jun 2024 1.52pm)

MFW94

Sutton 14 Jun 24 1.51pm

I think its clearly chelsea briefing the media to unsettle the player.

Chelsea apparently need to sell players for PSR/FFP - but look like they're getting around this with selling all their hotel, training grounds, women's team to the Owners.

As for links to Newcastle - LOL

I could see him going to City, wouldn't begrudge him going their or Bayern to be honest, as long as we get the money.

Edited by MFW94 (14 Jun 2024 1.52pm)

eritheagle Erith 14 Jun 24 2.12pm
Originally posted by taylors lovechild If you believe in yourself as a footballer then you don't say no to City, regardless of how well any of us think a player might fit in. For me, Olise would fit in City like a glove with the way he plays. Unlike Eze he seems less interested in beating multiple players and the precision of his passing, crossing, and shooting is getting better and better. I've been saying for quite a while now that Olise is the Mahrez replacement that they've been searching for as they've not really replaced him (not that it's affected them too much!). I just haven't told Pep!

eritheagle

Erith 14 Jun 24 2.12pm

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

I've been saying for quite a while now that Olise is the Mahrez replacement that they've been searching for as they've not really replaced him (not that it's affected them too much!).
I just haven't told Pep!

Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 14 Jun 24 3.16pm
Originally posted by taylors lovechild If you believe in yourself as a footballer then you don't say no to City, regardless of how well any of us think a player might fit in. For me, Olise would fit in City like a glove with the way he plays. Unlike Eze he seems less interested in beating multiple players and the precision of his passing, crossing, and shooting is getting better and better. Disagree, Man city a bad move for him, particularly as the amount of game time he will be asked to play, Alvarez 54, Foden, 53, Rodri 50, Silva, 49. Olise has managed 37, 28 and 19 last season, i think his fitness will be a major factor in where he goes, it should be if he is thinking clearly. “That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

Lanzo-Ad

Lanzarote 14 Jun 24 3.16pm

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

Disagree, Man city a bad move for him, particularly as the amount of game time he will be asked to play, Alvarez 54, Foden, 53, Rodri 50, Silva, 49. Olise has managed 37, 28 and 19 last season, i think his fitness will be a major factor in where he goes, it should be if he is thinking clearly.

pssguy 14 Jun 24 5.49pm
Originally posted by eritheagle I've been saying for quite a while now that Olise is the Mahrez replacement that they've been searching for as they've not really replaced him (not that it's affected them too much!). I just haven't told Pep! I told Pep after Olises's first year here but as my recommendations do not carry any weight he re-upped Mahrez for another year and they won the Champions League

pssguy

14 Jun 24 5.49pm

Originally posted by eritheagle

I told Pep after Olises's first year here but as my recommendations do not carry any weight he re-upped Mahrez for another year and they won the Champions League

Painter Croydon 14 Jun 24 8.16pm
Originally posted by taylors lovechild If you believe in yourself as a footballer then you don't say no to City, regardless of how well any of us think a player might fit in. For me, Olise would fit in City like a glove with the way he plays. Unlike Eze he seems less interested in beating multiple players and the precision of his passing, crossing, and shooting is getting better and better. Palmer believed in himself and didnt want to sit on Citys bench. Both Grealish and Phillips careers have stalled at City. Edited by Painter (14 Jun 2024 8.17pm)

Painter

Croydon 14 Jun 24 8.16pm

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

Palmer believed in himself and didnt want to sit on Citys bench. Both Grealish and Phillips careers have stalled at City.

Edited by Painter (14 Jun 2024 8.17pm)

Hannes Vienna 14 Jun 24 8.27pm
As much as the loss of star players hurts, I much prefer a transfer window like this to one of the past few years, where we obviously had problems replacing and financing players who had cost a fortune in the past and were no longer worth anything on the transfer market. And if I look at it realistically, whether I like it or not, it will be a long time before the dream club and ultimate destination for exceptional young talent is our club.

Hannes

Vienna 14 Jun 24 8.27pm

As much as the loss of star players hurts, I much prefer a transfer window like this to one of the past few years, where we obviously had problems replacing and financing players who had cost a fortune in the past and were no longer worth anything on the transfer market. And if I look at it realistically, whether I like it or not, it will be a long time before the dream club and ultimate destination for exceptional young talent is our club.

PJEagle London 15 Jun 24 8.47am
Originally posted by Hannes As much as the loss of star players hurts, I much prefer a transfer window like this to one of the past few years, where we obviously had problems replacing and financing players who had cost a fortune in the past and were no longer worth anything on the transfer market. And if I look at it realistically, whether I like it or not, it will be a long time before the dream club and ultimate destination for exceptional young talent is our club. We have a thriving and competitive under 18 and 21 squad, the best of which will be seen in tge PL squad. Hopefully David Ozoh will continue developing and eventually make it with Glasner

PJEagle

London 15 Jun 24 8.47am

Originally posted by Hannes

We have a thriving and competitive under 18 and 21 squad, the best of which will be seen in tge PL squad. Hopefully David Ozoh will continue developing and eventually make it with Glasner

doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 15 Jun 24 10.14am
Originally posted by PJEagle We have a thriving and competitive under 18 and 21 squad, the best of which will be seen in tge PL squad. Hopefully David Ozoh will continue developing and eventually make it with Glasner I admire your optimism PJ, but whilst our Academy squads are competing well in their respective leagues and cups, it's a massive leap from there to PL football. Part of the reason our Academy squads are competing well is that clubs such as Citeh, Liverpool, Chelsea and United have their better Academy players either out on loan at Championship level or better clubs or have them in their 1st team squads on a regular basis so they are no longer playing Academy football. Our one and only such player is Ozoh. Having said that, if we continue to cement ourselves in the PL and become a club that challenges for Europe on occasions then the quality of youngsters attracted to our Academy is likely to improve. However, I don't expect to see any meaningful output so-to-speak for several years yet.

doombear

Too far from Selhurst Park 15 Jun 24 10.14am

Originally posted by PJEagle

We have a thriving and competitive under 18 and 21 squad, the best of which will be seen in tge PL squad. Hopefully David Ozoh will continue developing and eventually make it with Glasner

I admire your optimism PJ, but whilst our Academy squads are competing well in their respective leagues and cups, it's a massive leap from there to PL football. Part of the reason our Academy squads are competing well is that clubs such as Citeh, Liverpool, Chelsea and United have their better Academy players either out on loan at Championship level or better clubs or have them in their 1st team squads on a regular basis so they are no longer playing Academy football. Our one and only such player is Ozoh.

Having said that, if we continue to cement ourselves in the PL and become a club that challenges for Europe on occasions then the quality of youngsters attracted to our Academy is likely to improve. However, I don't expect to see any meaningful output so-to-speak for several years yet.

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