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edskan 28 Jun 24 4.46am
[Link] I doubt we'll get all three, but would love it if there were some truth in the Smith-Rowe rumour. Cracking player and he's proven that he's a bona fide Premier League player.

edskan

28 Jun 24 4.46am

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I doubt we'll get all three, but would love it if there were some truth in the Smith-Rowe rumour. Cracking player and he's proven that he's a bona fide Premier League player.

PJEagle London 28 Jun 24 7.52am
Originally posted by edskan [Link] I doubt we'll get all three, but would love it if there were some truth in the Smith-Rowe rumour. Cracking player and he's proven that he's a bona fide Premier League player. Beat me to the post! There were rumours a little while ago about Reese Nelson? The one I'd like to see reignite is Eddie Nketiah who would add something to our attack, especially if Edouard moves on?

PJEagle

London 28 Jun 24 7.52am

Originally posted by edskan

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I doubt we'll get all three, but would love it if there were some truth in the Smith-Rowe rumour. Cracking player and he's proven that he's a bona fide Premier League player.

Beat me to the post! There were rumours a little while ago about Reese Nelson? The one I'd like to see reignite is Eddie Nketiah who would add something to our attack, especially if Edouard moves on?

Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 28 Jun 24 8.18am
Originally posted by PJEagle Beat me to the post! There were rumours a little while ago about Reese Nelson? The one I'd like to see reignite is Eddie Nketiah who would add something to our attack, especially if Edouard moves on? Any of my concerns about departures is alleviated by the fact it looks as though we very much have plans of our own. Get them in and under Glanser I have confidence we'll be fine. Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

Nicholas91

The Democratic Republic of Kent 28 Jun 24 8.18am

Originally posted by PJEagle

Beat me to the post! There were rumours a little while ago about Reese Nelson? The one I'd like to see reignite is Eddie Nketiah who would add something to our attack, especially if Edouard moves on?

Any of my concerns about departures is alleviated by the fact it looks as though we very much have plans of our own.

Get them in and under Glanser I have confidence we'll be fine.

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

Badger11 Beckenham 28 Jun 24 9.42am
I can't see us paying £35m for Smith Rowe. One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 28 Jun 24 9.42am

I can't see us paying £35m for Smith Rowe.

One more point

doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 28 Jun 24 10.36am
Originally posted by Badger11 I can't see us paying £35m for Smith Rowe. Agreed. Just because we are due to get a £50m fee for Olise doesn't mean that Dougie is suddenly going to splash out more than necessary for a player. Smith-Rowe is a good player but he can't command a starting slot in a PL team. Last season he got just 3 PL starts (against Sheff U, Forest and Luton - Arteta obviously doesn't trust him against any clubs better than those) and 10 sub appearances for a total of just 355 mins and, in my book that means he can't be worth what Arsenal want for him. My figures are as per Transfermarkt who value the player at €22m which is the most I'd want to pay for him.

doombear

Too far from Selhurst Park 28 Jun 24 10.36am

Originally posted by Badger11

I can't see us paying £35m for Smith Rowe.

Agreed. Just because we are due to get a £50m fee for Olise doesn't mean that Dougie is suddenly going to splash out more than necessary for a player.

Smith-Rowe is a good player but he can't command a starting slot in a PL team. Last season he got just 3 PL starts (against Sheff U, Forest and Luton - Arteta obviously doesn't trust him against any clubs better than those) and 10 sub appearances for a total of just 355 mins and, in my book that means he can't be worth what Arsenal want for him.

My figures are as per Transfermarkt who value the player at €22m which is the most I'd want to pay for him.

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 28 Jun 24 10.45am
Originally posted by Badger11 I can't see us paying £35m for Smith Rowe. Your comment has met with my whole-hearted approbation. I can assert with a degree of confidence that we will not be paying £35 Mill for Smith Rowe. Edited by Willo (28 Jun 2024 10.48am)

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 28 Jun 24 10.45am

Originally posted by Badger11

I can't see us paying £35m for Smith Rowe.

Your comment has met with my whole-hearted approbation.

I can assert with a degree of confidence that we will not be paying £35 Mill for Smith Rowe.

Edited by Willo (28 Jun 2024 10.48am)

silvertop Portishead 28 Jun 24 10.55am
Originally posted by Willo Your comment has met with my whole-hearted approbation. I can assert with a degree of confidence that we will not be paying £35 Mill for Smith Rowe. Edited by Willo (28 Jun 2024 10.48am) And mine. Any other interest (and not just stuff fed by his agent)? If we are the only suitors, could we get him at half that price? Otherwise, good luck to the money bags club willing to pay the asking price. BTW, he is precisely the type of player we should be targeting, even though he has not had the chance to cut through into a very good Arsenal team. Imagine him playing week in week out for us.

silvertop

Portishead 28 Jun 24 10.55am

Originally posted by Willo

Your comment has met with my whole-hearted approbation.

I can assert with a degree of confidence that we will not be paying £35 Mill for Smith Rowe.

Edited by Willo (28 Jun 2024 10.48am)

And mine.

Any other interest (and not just stuff fed by his agent)? If we are the only suitors, could we get him at half that price? Otherwise, good luck to the money bags club willing to pay the asking price.

BTW, he is precisely the type of player we should be targeting, even though he has not had the chance to cut through into a very good Arsenal team. Imagine him playing week in week out for us.

Crystal_Clear Belfast 28 Jun 24 11.47am
Considering the transfer fees at the moment, 35m is not bad price at all. My concern would be his fitness, he was out for a long time recently. Cracking player though.

Crystal_Clear

Belfast 28 Jun 24 11.47am

Considering the transfer fees at the moment, 35m is not bad price at all. My concern would be his fitness, he was out for a long time recently.

Cracking player though.

dreamwaverider London 28 Jun 24 12.23pm
Originally posted by Willo Your comment has met with my whole-hearted approbation. I can assert with a degree of confidence that we will not be paying £35 Mill for Smith Rowe. Edited by Willo (28 Jun 2024 10.48am) Nor me. But then never say never or not.

dreamwaverider

London 28 Jun 24 12.23pm

Originally posted by Willo

Your comment has met with my whole-hearted approbation.

I can assert with a degree of confidence that we will not be paying £35 Mill for Smith Rowe.

Edited by Willo (28 Jun 2024 10.48am)

Nor me. But then never say never or not.

MrRobbo Chaldon 28 Jun 24 1.14pm
Originally posted by doombear Agreed. Just because we are due to get a £50m fee for Olise doesn't mean that Dougie is suddenly going to splash out more than necessary for a player. Smith-Rowe is a good player but he can't command a starting slot in a PL team. Last season he got just 3 PL starts (against Sheff U, Forest and Luton - Arteta obviously doesn't trust him against any clubs better than those) and 10 sub appearances for a total of just 355 mins and, in my book that means he can't be worth what Arsenal want for him. My figures are as per Transfermarkt who value the player at €22m which is the most I'd want to pay for him. I'd agree. Maybe a couple of years ago, but ESM has seemingly been going backwards at Arsenal. He needs out, and they obviously don't want him. c.£20m seams a much more reasonable figure

MrRobbo

Chaldon 28 Jun 24 1.14pm

Originally posted by doombear

Agreed. Just because we are due to get a £50m fee for Olise doesn't mean that Dougie is suddenly going to splash out more than necessary for a player.

My figures are as per Transfermarkt who value the player at €22m which is the most I'd want to pay for him.

I'd agree.

Maybe a couple of years ago, but ESM has seemingly been going backwards at Arsenal. He needs out, and they obviously don't want him.

c.£20m seams a much more reasonable figure

DANGERCLOSE London 28 Jun 24 1.33pm
About 15 million imo

DANGERCLOSE

London 28 Jun 24 1.33pm

About 15 million imo

fish mitten Chelmsford 28 Jun 24 3.11pm
The Smith-Rowe of 2 seasons ago, looked like he would be a £35m player. But then again he looked like he would be a regular starter. However, he's been injury hit and can't get in the side now fit again. I'd say he's come down in value in the last 2 years - probably £20m perhaps £25m providing he can make x amount of appearances. Arsenal (like the bin dippers) seem to over value their players who aren't deemed good enough. The £40M or whatever quoted for Nketiah was stupid money. Let them rot on the bench, until they are a fair price.

fish mitten

Chelmsford 28 Jun 24 3.11pm

The Smith-Rowe of 2 seasons ago, looked like he would be a £35m player. But then again he looked like he would be a regular starter. However, he's been injury hit and can't get in the side now fit again. I'd say he's come down in value in the last 2 years - probably £20m perhaps £25m providing he can make x amount of appearances.

Arsenal (like the bin dippers) seem to over value their players who aren't deemed good enough. The £40M or whatever quoted for Nketiah was stupid money. Let them rot on the bench, until they are a fair price.

PJEagle London 28 Jun 24 5.31pm
Originally posted by doombear Agreed. Just because we are due to get a £50m fee for Olise doesn't mean that Dougie is suddenly going to splash out more than necessary for a player. Smith-Rowe is a good player but he can't command a starting slot in a PL team. Last season he got just 3 PL starts (against Sheff U, Forest and Luton - Arteta obviously doesn't trust him against any clubs better than those) and 10 sub appearances for a total of just 355 mins and, in my book that means he can't be worth what Arsenal want for him. My figures are as per Transfermarkt who value the player at €22m which is the most I'd want to pay for him. This might be coming from his agent...£35 would be a top figure which would be negotiated down.. but like everyone has said, but whether Smith Rowe is the best we can do remains to be seen...

PJEagle

London 28 Jun 24 5.31pm

Originally posted by doombear

Agreed. Just because we are due to get a £50m fee for Olise doesn't mean that Dougie is suddenly going to splash out more than necessary for a player.

My figures are as per Transfermarkt who value the player at €22m which is the most I'd want to pay for him.

This might be coming from his agent...£35 would be a top figure which would be negotiated down.. but like everyone has said, but whether Smith Rowe is the best we can do remains to be seen...

HeathMan Purley 28 Jun 24 6.58pm
Loan, with option to buy, or after OG magic a buyback option (say £10M) for Arsenal to pay reflecting the increase in his value while at Selhurst Park. Possible figures Loan £6M buy at end of loan £15M buyback at end of loan £10m.

HeathMan

Purley 28 Jun 24 6.58pm

Loan, with option to buy, or after OG magic a buyback option (say £10M) for Arsenal to pay reflecting the increase in his value while at Selhurst Park.

Possible figures
Loan £6M
buy at end of loan £15M
buyback at end of loan £10m.

pssguy 28 Jun 24 7.07pm
Pluses: Plays the right-sided No.10 we have lost with Olise leaving 23 and premier League proven Croydon born Reasonable goalscoring record Apparently wants to leave Only on 40 grand cf Nelson and Nketiah on 100 Minuses: Gone down pecking order at Arsenal Injury-prone in many areas. Bit lightweight High price for, possibly, marginal starter/first off bench level Doesn't fit the preferred buying pattern of foreign or Championship players I think he is a reasonable shout, particularly if the price is reduced and Eze goes

pssguy

28 Jun 24 7.07pm

Pluses: Plays the right-sided No.10 we have lost with Olise leaving
23 and premier League proven
Croydon born
Reasonable goalscoring record
Apparently wants to leave
Only on 40 grand cf Nelson and Nketiah on 100

Minuses: Gone down pecking order at Arsenal
Injury-prone in many areas. Bit lightweight
High price for, possibly, marginal starter/first off
bench level
Doesn't fit the preferred buying pattern of foreign or Championship players

I think he is a reasonable shout, particularly if the price is reduced and Eze goes

edskan 29 Jun 24 3.50am
Originally posted by HeathMan Loan, with option to buy, or after OG magic a buyback option (say £10M) for Arsenal to pay reflecting the increase in his value while at Selhurst Park. Possible figures Loan £6M buy at end of loan £15M buyback at end of loan £10m. Really liking the loan option.

edskan

29 Jun 24 3.50am

Originally posted by HeathMan

Loan, with option to buy, or after OG magic a buyback option (say £10M) for Arsenal to pay reflecting the increase in his value while at Selhurst Park.

Possible figures
Loan £6M
buy at end of loan £15M
buyback at end of loan £10m.

Really liking the loan option.

Palacesince64 Edinburgh 29 Jun 24 11.34am
The difference between Arsenal and Chelsea is that Arsenal expect ridiculous transfer fees for their relatively low paid rejects while Chelsea are willing to sell theirs at a fair price to get shot of the crazy salaries they agreed when they bought them. Wouldn’t touch either club with a barge pole.

Palacesince64

Edinburgh 29 Jun 24 11.34am

The difference between Arsenal and Chelsea is that Arsenal expect ridiculous transfer fees for their relatively low paid rejects while Chelsea are willing to sell theirs at a fair price to get shot of the crazy salaries they agreed when they bought them. Wouldn’t touch either club with a barge pole.

DANGERCLOSE London 29 Jun 24 11.58pm
Crystal Palace are interested in Emile Smith Rowe, who can leave Arsenal for £25m, but the England midfielder, 23, is keen to stay with the Gunners. (Sun)

DANGERCLOSE

London 29 Jun 24 11.58pm

Crystal Palace are interested in Emile Smith Rowe, who can leave Arsenal for £25m, but the England midfielder, 23, is keen to stay with the Gunners. (Sun)

Badger11 Beckenham 30 Jun 24 9.02am
Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE Crystal Palace are interested in Emile Smith Rowe, who can leave Arsenal for £25m, but the England midfielder, 23, is keen to stay with the Gunners. (Sun) So clickbait says he would rather sit on the bench then. If true we don't want him. To be honest I would rather have a player who is desperate to come to us than one who thinks he doing us a favour. One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 30 Jun 24 9.02am

Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE

Crystal Palace are interested in Emile Smith Rowe, who can leave Arsenal for £25m, but the England midfielder, 23, is keen to stay with the Gunners. (Sun)

So clickbait says he would rather sit on the bench then. If true we don't want him.

To be honest I would rather have a player who is desperate to come to us than one who thinks he doing us a favour.

One more point

doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 30 Jun 24 9.33am
Originally posted by Badger11 So clickbait says he would rather sit on the bench then. If true we don't want him. To be honest I would rather have a player who is desperate to come to us than one who thinks he doing us a favour. What is it about Arsenal players that they'd rather stay at Arsenal and spend most of their time on the bench than go somewhere else to play regular football? Nketiah was the same. Perhaps they hope they'll get enough appearances so as to get a medal if Arsenal win something. PS. I note the Sun has the price at £25m and not £35m. Knock another £10m off and he might just be worth considering, assuming he would deign to come to a 'little' club like ours.

doombear

Too far from Selhurst Park 30 Jun 24 9.33am

Originally posted by Badger11

So clickbait says he would rather sit on the bench then. If true we don't want him.

To be honest I would rather have a player who is desperate to come to us than one who thinks he doing us a favour.

What is it about Arsenal players that they'd rather stay at Arsenal and spend most of their time on the bench than go somewhere else to play regular football? Nketiah was the same. Perhaps they hope they'll get enough appearances so as to get a medal if Arsenal win something.

PS. I note the Sun has the price at £25m and not £35m. Knock another £10m off and he might just be worth considering, assuming he would deign to come to a 'little' club like ours.

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