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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 16 Nov 23 11.15pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I would have thought reading either, given their well deserved reputations, was a total waste of time when more balanced coverage is known to be available.

You don’t read the Mail or the Socialist Worker to actually learn anything. Have a laugh, perhaps.

That view might have some validity if those were the only options available, although how the Daily Mail equates to the Socialist Worker is a mystery - whatever the right wing equivalent is I don't know - but there are any number of middle of the road opinions around for balance. If challenging your own preconceptions is too unsettling then of course the BBC is always there.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 17 Nov 23 7.19am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

If you have fallen out of love with where you live, move. Or get out more. There’s plenty of lovely places out there. Stop moaning and do something to make your own lot better. You aren’t going to change the world.

So you won’t moan about brexit again, you aren’t going to change it !

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 17 Nov 23 7.48am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

So you won’t moan about brexit again, you aren’t going to change it !

Or the weather.
Or VAR.
Or CPFC's results.
Or the American election.

 

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View Behind Enemy Lines's Profile Behind Enemy Lines Flag Sussex 17 Nov 23 8.07am Send a Private Message to Behind Enemy Lines Add Behind Enemy Lines as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Where do you get your “facts”. Daily Mail? GBNews?

The Guardian, the BBC also report these facts, so it must be true. I’m sorry if your ideology can’t take facts.

 


hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 17 Nov 23 8.08am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

That view might have some validity if those were the only options available, although how the Daily Mail equates to the Socialist Worker is a mystery - whatever the right wing equivalent is I don't know - but there are any number of middle of the road opinions around for balance. If challenging your own preconceptions is too unsettling then of course the BBC is always there.

The Mail and the Socialist Worker are equally biased in favour of the political outlook they promulgate. There are others who take also sides but not to quite the same level, and then there is indeed the BBC who doesn’t. Except in the minds of those who do.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 17 Nov 23 8.13am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

So you won’t moan about brexit again, you aren’t going to change it !

On the basis that you cannot change history you are right. So I don’t.

What I do is point out the consequences of Brexit and argue to reverse them via renegotiations and treaties. This is not moaning. It’s positive action.

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

The Mail and the Socialist Worker are equally biased in favour of the political outlook they promulgate. There are others who take also sides but not to quite the same level, and then there is indeed the BBC who doesn’t. Except in the minds of those who do.

So what's the problem with getting a view from both ends of the spectrum as well as that from the centre?

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 17 Nov 23 8.17am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines

The Guardian, the BBC also report these facts, so it must be true. I’m sorry if your ideology can’t take facts.

You cannot compare the Guardian with the BBC. One is a newspaper which takes an obviously more socialist stance whilst the other is our national broadcaster which is bound by its charter to be politically neutral and objective.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 17 Nov 23 8.22am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

So what's the problem with getting a view from both ends of the spectrum as well as that from the centre?

Only that the viewpoint of both is so distorted that nothing can be seen clearly so reading them is wasting time and effort when better sources are available.

I only ever look in such places if I want to understand how the extremes are approaching something and what to expect from them. Never to actually gain a true understanding.

 


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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 17 Nov 23 8.29am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Only that the viewpoint of both is so distorted that nothing can be seen clearly so reading them is wasting time and effort when better sources are available.

I only ever look in such places if I want to understand how the extremes are approaching something and what to expect from them. Never to actually gain a true understanding.

But often stories are given far more prominence so are make it easier to find more moderate reporting. For all it's vaunted objectivity the BBC has a habit of putting some stories way back in local news where they're not easy to find.

 

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View Behind Enemy Lines's Profile Behind Enemy Lines Flag Sussex 17 Nov 23 9.03am Send a Private Message to Behind Enemy Lines Add Behind Enemy Lines as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

You cannot compare the Guardian with the BBC. One is a newspaper which takes an obviously more socialist stance whilst the other is our national broadcaster which is bound by its charter to be politically neutral and objective.

I’m not comparing them; I’m stating that both the left (Guardian), the right (GB News) and the centre (BBC), reported these events involving the Refugees Welcome gatherings. My disagreement with you was over your view that nobody agrees with illegal immigration; the protests show that you are incorrect.

 


hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.

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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

But often stories are given far more prominence so are make it easier to find more moderate reporting. For all it's vaunted objectivity the BBC has a habit of putting some stories way back in local news where they're not easy to find.



Exactly. I have seen stories remain on the front page for several days even when there is no further update but it ticks all the right boxes whilst others disappear in hours and you have to know where to look.

 


One more point

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