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dp Flag Tunbridge Wells 24 Jul 16 10.16am

Swansea seem to be willing to offer £15 million. Personally, I would rather Benteke or Berahino than Bony. But, as I said, it is a bit moot unless we know the whole picture.

 

Petereagle Flag Brockley 24 Jul 16 10.24am

Originally posted by NICK THE EAGLE

Talking of being on your own, I think I am on my own in thinking that we are still in for BOTH. I agree with you that AP is looking at either of them to drop into a particular style if he only gets one. What signing both would do for the first time is give himself a high quality plan B.

Well, we dont know what Palace's transfer budget is. Parish and Pardew will be working within that. My guess is that Palace want to sign two strikers, possibly one target man (eg Benteke) and one 'fox in the box' like Gayle only better (eg Berahino). If you added the cost of these two particular players together it would be in the order of £50m. It could be that Palace have gone for Berahino because Palace has given up up on Benteke, or it could be that they are genuinely prepared to splash £50m on both. Time will tell. My hunch is that two new strikers will come in, but its anyone's guess right now as to who! My preference of course would be for two high quality strikers like Benteke (definitely) and Sakho rather than Berahino.

 

Bekken Flag 24 Jul 16 10.25am


Bony has pace whereas Benteke has height, other than that, they both have age on their side, strength, know where the goal is and both were on fire before big money moves.

The question is, do you want Bony buzzing around up top or do you want our wingers to do all the running, setting the chances for Benteke. Depends on AP's forecasted playing style...

For me, I'd prefer Bony... Good player and cheaper

 

dp Flag Tunbridge Wells 24 Jul 16 10.33am

Originally posted by Petereagle

Well, we dont know what Palace's transfer budget is. Parish and Pardew will be working within that. My guess is that Palace want to sign two strikers, possibly one target man (eg Benteke) and one 'fox in the box' like Gayle only better (eg Berahino). If you added the cost of these two particular players together it would be in the order of £50m. It could be that Palace have gone for Berahino because Palace has given up up on Benteke, or it could be that they are genuinely prepared to splash £50m on both. Time will tell. My hunch is that two new strikers will come in, but its anyone's guess right now as to who! My preference of course would be for two high quality strikers like Benteke (definitely) and Sakho rather than Berahino.

Benteke and Berahino for £50 million!! Stuff of dreams that. I suspect that Sakho and Bony for £25-30 million might be more likely.

 

Petereagle Flag Brockley 24 Jul 16 10.35am

Originally posted by Bekken


Bony has pace whereas Benteke has height, other than that, they both have age on their side, strength, know where the goal is and both were on fire before big money moves.

The question is, do you want Bony buzzing around up top or do you want our wingers to do all the running, setting the chances for Benteke. Depends on AP's forecasted playing style...

For me, I'd prefer Bony... Good player and cheaper

Bony would certainly be a massive upgrade compared to Gayle, just got more power, combined with a good eye for goal, but rumours seem tombe heading more towards Sakho, and no real mention of Bony in terms of current 'rumours'. But Sakho too would be a good upgrade, if he stayed fit

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 24 Jul 16 10.45am

Originally posted by dp

Benteke and Berahino for £50 million!! Stuff of dreams that. I suspect that Sakho and Bony for £25-30 million might be more likely.

We are not going to pay £50 Mill for two forwards.Just add-on the wages of these players and other add-ons and consider the overall cost.

 

Petereagle Flag Brockley 24 Jul 16 10.54am

Originally posted by Willo

We are not going to pay £50 Mill for two forwards.Just add-on the wages of these players and other add-ons and consider the overall cost.

I agree that is wildly optimistic, so it must be either/or

 

Sportyteacher Flag London 24 Jul 16 10.54am

Originally posted by black eagle.


Benteke better all round striker in my opinion.

although would'nt be unhappy if we signed Bony.

what's your opinion?

Got to be honest and suggest that Bony, if not for his Swansea affinity, comes across as a more realistic target and would definitely be the striker upgrade that we require. His price and wages would easily allow us to look elsewhere to top up in other positions e.g. another striker. I just find it a tad incredulous that we are looking at Benteke priced at £33m when his goal scoring form wasn't that much different to Bony with the latter's form beset by contracting malaria and sustaining an injury last season.

 

BelfastEagle Flag 24 Jul 16 11.01am

Originally posted by Petereagle

I agree that is wildly optimistic, so it must be either/or

Totally agree there is no way we are spending £50m on 2 strikers ....this is not fantasy football. We do need 2 strikers my guess we will spend £20-£25 m on one and then the other will either be a loan or free transfer or part of a deal taking one of ours the other way.

Edited by BelfastEagle (24 Jul 2016 11.02am)

 

Booted Eagle Flag Bristol 24 Jul 16 11.02am

Originally posted by Sportyteacher

Got to be honest and suggest that Bony, if not for his Swansea affinity, comes across as a more realistic target and would definitely be the striker upgrade that we require. His price and wages would easily allow us to look elsewhere to top up in other positions e.g. another striker. I just find it a tad incredulous that we are looking at Benteke priced at £33m when his goal scoring form wasn't that much different to Bony with the latter's form beset by contracting malaria and sustaining an injury last season.

Benteke, Berahino and now Bony ? Let's hope the fall back isn't Bendtner !?!

 


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daven Flag Hailsham 24 Jul 16 11.12am

Depending on what style of play we are going to adopt this season would dictate whether we pay Liverpool a large sum of money or WBA. I cant see how it is possible to be in the market for Benteke then Berahino as they would require a different type of service.We should have a set style of play where every player knows his job,and replacements slot in without having to change formation......that should be good for a couple more pages...

 

Bangell Flag Oxford 24 Jul 16 11.21am

If we could get Sakho and Bony for about the same money as Benteke I'd rather the two of them.

 

Sportyteacher Flag London 24 Jul 16 11.37am

Originally posted by Booted Eagle

Benteke, Berahino and now Bony ? Let's hope the fall back isn't Bendtner !?!

Maybe we're still learning the alphabet and are yet to discover the joys of...bring on Sesame Street...the next magic letter that is C

 

crvenaeagle Flag 24 Jul 16 11.39am

Originally posted by dp

It seems like I might be on my own here. But I had always assumed that offering £31 million for Batshuayi was a bit of a rouse to get Townsend and Mandanda to sign. Similarly offering £25 million (or whatever it is) for Benteke was a similar rouse to get someone else in, or to get someone else (i.e. Gayle) to drop down to the Championship - it has all felt far too public - a bit like when Elton John married Renate whatever her name was.

I have never thought we would get Benteke, but it seems to me that we have placed ourselves above Hull, Middlesborough and the other relegation fodder and alongside Stoke, West Brom and the other contenders for mid-table by trying. It has given us a chance with Berahino.

If I am wrong, and we are seriously going after either Benteke or Berahino, then each are such different prospects and neither are going to be bench warmers. I imagine that AP will have to come up with two different playing styles depending upon which one comes in - and this would mean two different transfer strategies depending upon which one we sign.

With this in mind, perhaps the offers we have made for Benteke and Berahino are all we can afford in light of the other transfers we would have to make to mould the style of play around them. It seems a bit naive to say that because we can afford to offer £23 million for Berahino, surely we can offer another £9 million for Benteke (no offence).

Certainly I don't think it is right to say that Berahino is a panic buy. I think that Wickham, Cabaye, Townsend, Zaha, Jedinak, Bolasie etc. etc. are pretty good quality. This summer is just another in the step away from the bottom of the Premiership and I reckon we are making a fairly good fist of it.

It is a panic though, Berahino's simply not worth £23m.

 

dp Flag Tunbridge Wells 24 Jul 16 11.45am

Originally posted by Willo

Originally posted by dp
Benteke and Berahino for £50 million!! Stuff of dreams that. I suspect that Sakho and Bony for £25-30 million might be more likely.

We are not going to pay £50 Mill for two forwards.Just add-on the wages of these players and other add-ons and consider the overall cost.

That was kind of my point.

 

AussiePalace Flag Melbourne, Australia 24 Jul 16 11.47am

Originally posted by Sportyteacher

Maybe we're still learning the alphabet and are yet to discover the joys of...bring on Sesame Street...the next magic letter that is C

Carlton Cole's on his way.....??

You beauty!!!!

 


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CPFC/SCCC Flag Sutton 24 Jul 16 11.53am

The report in the Sunday mirror had no new news in it and refers that in the betting odds we are so called favourites.

 


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Rabbit-Tooth Flag London 24 Jul 16 11.55am

Originally posted by Willo

We are not going to pay £50 Mill for two forwards.Just add-on the wages of these players and other add-ons and consider the overall cost.

You scoffed a few months back when I said we will be spending over £20m in the summer. I wouldn't rule anything out. Seems to me the Board are serious about upgrading the quality in the team and the money is there.

 

dp Flag Tunbridge Wells 24 Jul 16 11.58am

Originally posted by crvenaeagle

It is a panic though, Berahino's simply not worth £23m.

Respectfully, I don't really agree.

The true worth of a player like Berahino is his potential. Berahino is 22, in 3 years time he will be the same age as Gayle now. I didn't think Gayle was worth what we paid for him at 22, but we have just sold him for £10 million at 25 and he did not fulfil his potential. Similarly, Berahino will likely be worth more in 3 years time than he is now. Especially if he deals with his doubters.

Getting back on track, with Benteke who is 25, you are signing the finished article. In 3 years time he will likely be worth less than his now.

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 24 Jul 16 12.08pm

Originally posted by Rabbit-Tooth

You scoffed a few months back when I said we will be spending over £20m in the summer. I wouldn't rule anything out. Seems to me the Board are serious about upgrading the quality in the team and the money is there.

I don't recall this.

Maybe a "Few months back" I wasn't actually certain if we would still be in the PL !

Of course the 'Board' are serious about upgrading the quality but financial limits apply to us as they do most clubs.

Edited by Willo (24 Jul 2016 12.10pm)

 

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