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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards georgenorman Flag 09 May 22 6.22pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

I once saw a straight white British man getting some respect on the BBC....

( nah, just kidding )

David Attenborough doesn't count as he is a national treasure.

 

PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 09 May 22 6.32pm

Originally posted by georgenorman

David Attenborough doesn't count as he is a national treasure.

he is a Lefty climate change bore. Like a white Sadiq Khan.

try again.

a BBC white Straight ( non lefty) British man ? any takers ?

Edited by PalazioVecchio (09 May 2022 6.37pm)

 


Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

The Dolphin Flag 09 May 22 6.59pm

The BBC will be furious about the bafta's!
Liam Neesom got best actor - very straight older white male and Jody Comer a white, straight - I think - actress winning best actress!
Their short highlights online consists pretty much of Mo Gilligan - I think - droning on about C4 amongst other things.
It will be on itv soon I reckon!

 

eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 09 May 22 7.45pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

he is a Lefty climate change bore. Like a white Sadiq Khan.

try again.

a BBC white Straight ( non lefty) British man ? any takers ?

Edited by PalazioVecchio (09 May 2022 6.37pm)

David Attenborough . . . As already mentioned, to compare him to Sad DIck Khunt is obscene, you have no concept of reality. Go away you bore.

 


This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

Stirlingsays Flag 09 May 22 7.51pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

he is a Lefty climate change bore. Like a white Sadiq Khan.

try again.

a BBC white Straight ( non lefty) British man ? any takers ?

Edited by PalazioVecchio (09 May 2022 6.37pm)

Agreed.

But as we know he's boomer Gandhi, with millions of wheelchair/armchair fans poised to listen to his every utterance.

Edited by Stirlingsays (10 May 2022 10.33am)

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

YT Flag Oxford 09 May 22 8.05pm

Originally posted by The Dolphin

The BBC will be furious about the bafta's!
Liam Neesom got best actor - very straight older white male and Jody Comer a white, straight - I think - actress winning best actress!
Their short highlights online consists pretty much of Mo Gilligan - I think - droning on about C4 amongst other things.
It will be on itv soon I reckon!

I thought it was Sean Bean (in which case the same description applies, plus "northern" )

Edited by YT (09 May 2022 8.05pm)

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 09 May 22 8.09pm

Originally posted by Pembroke

A pacifist Doctor, wasn't Turn Left about immigration and Oxygen about privitisation?

OK, so you are using that as justification?

I'd say that complex issues do not belong in simplistic sci fi programs mainly for kids when presented in this way.

I accept that TV shows have been using social issues as the basis of fiction for a long time, but when, for example, Star Trek did their race episode back in the '60s, it felt far less political.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (09 May 2022 8.10pm)

 

PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 09 May 22 9.20pm

he may be straight white male British, but David Attenborough gets a pass.

BBC insider, ex senior management

 


Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 09 May 22 10.02pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

he is a Lefty climate change bore. Like a white Sadiq Khan.

try again.

a BBC white Straight ( non lefty) British man ? any takers ?

Edited by PalazioVecchio (09 May 2022 6.37pm)

I believe this twonk is in NYC at the moment

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 09 May 22 10.23pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

he is a Lefty climate change bore. Like a white Sadiq Khan.

try again.

a BBC white Straight ( non lefty) British man ? any takers ?

Edited by PalazioVecchio (09 May 2022 6.37pm)

That is possibly the most stupid comment ever written on the Hol.

David Attenborough is a passionate, intelligent, well-informed, interesting and kind man who cares about the future of our planet. Not for himself, me or you, but for our grandchildren and great-grandchildren.

I have never heard him express a political opinion, right or left. Climate change is real. It's a proven fact and dealing with it is urgent. It's reality is accepted world-wide. Those that seek to deny it, to ensure their own comfort, are denying their heirs a future. He is far from a bore. He is among the most interesting people on TV.

 


For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 10 May 22 7.13am

More on the BBC spending our money. I forgot the beeb has just blown £80m on relaunching BBC3 chasing the yuff audience who has responded with complete indifference.


Good point about low lighting and mumbling although this is true for most other broadcasters as well.

[Link]

 


One more point

Pembroke Flag Bristol 10 May 22 10.27am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

OK, so you are using that as justification?

I'd say that complex issues do not belong in simplistic sci fi programs mainly for kids when presented in this way.

I accept that TV shows have been using social issues as the basis of fiction for a long time, but when, for example, Star Trek did their race episode back in the '60s, it felt far less political.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (09 May 2022 8.10pm)

I was simply pointing out that social or global politics have had a place on occasions in the past on Dr Who, occasions going back to the early 70’s

Justification? No not really I don’t think the politicisation of Dr Who is a overt as being painted on here.

 

silvertop Flag Portishead 10 May 22 11.16am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Come on Bluejay. This is nothing but token casting designed to look 'right on'. They have been building up to it for a few years now.
The show is drowning in purposefully targeted wokery. The media loves trying to please minorities, but forgets the majority who pay for them. 4% of the population are ridiculously overrepresented and for what?

I hope the shows ratings fall off the chart. The only positive is that Russell T Davies actually knows how to write good, albeit sexuality obsessed stories.

I'm with you on this one Hrolf. It was always an all the family drama, albeit with a mild undercurrent of progressive politics (the Daleks as the racially pure, master race etc.). Now it is just an exercise in inclusivity presented as drama. It is very bad indeed.

BTW, I am becoming a bore on this, but the BBC have to do this inclusivity thing as there is secondary legislation tied to the Equality Act that requires it. If you don't like it, stop moaning on message boards and write to your MP.

I am not sure what the BBC will do if freed from the legislative shackles, but it couldn't be as bad as the kak they are spitting out now to obey the law and keep the Charter.

On this, don't waste your breath with a tory MP. They hate this woke crud too. However, they are mostly ideologically bent against the BBC and I suspect are more than happy that the law forces them to alienate more viewers every day.

 

silvertop Flag Portishead 10 May 22 11.18am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

OK, so you are using that as justification?

I'd say that complex issues do not belong in simplistic sci fi programs mainly for kids when presented in this way.

I accept that TV shows have been using social issues as the basis of fiction for a long time, but when, for example, Star Trek did their race episode back in the '60s, it felt far less political.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (09 May 2022 8.10pm)

Bang in the middle of the US race riots..?

 

silvertop Flag Portishead 10 May 22 11.20am

Originally posted by Badger11

More on the BBC spending our money. I forgot the beeb has just blown £80m on relaunching BBC3 chasing the yuff audience who has responded with complete indifference.


Good point about low lighting and mumbling although this is true for most other broadcasters as well.

[Link]

Surely "yout"??

 

mezzer Flag Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 10 May 22 11.30am

Originally posted by YT

BBC News last night reported on the TV BAFTA awards earlier in the night. The report highlighted that "It's a Sin", although much-nominated, didn't win a single award. The voiceover then said (paraphrased) that if a drama series with such a subject matter (AIDS) can't win a award, then one has to wonder how the BAFTAs can remain relevant to young people.

Pick the bones out if that! My reaction was: "Eh?!!". In the olden days (love 'em or hate 'em) I'm sure TV awards were given on the basis of technical, artistic etc achievement. Now the relevant BBC correspondent thinks BAFTAs should be awarded simply because a programme was about the gays. Baffling.

I heard this too YT and thought much the same, but also that I was just getting old.

Awards to be given out on subject matter alone? But only on the "right" subject matter.

 


Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.

Stirlingsays Flag 10 May 22 11.49am

Gary Lineker's salary is 1.3 million a year.....he's contracted for three more years.

Can anyone seriously regard that as a good use of license fee money?

There are bound to be good pundits willing to do that job for what....100 or 200 grand a year.

But instead it's progressive jobs for the boys/girls/thems.....whereas we live in a country that mainly votes in Tory governments.

So much for their most vaulted 'representation'.

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays Flag 10 May 22 11.56am

Andrew Lawrence on Doctor Who's latest choice.

[Link]

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 10 May 22 12.03pm

Originally posted by silvertop

Bang in the middle of the US race riots..?

Yep, but it didn't take sides.

 

TheBigToePunt Flag 10 May 22 12.28pm

Originally posted by silvertop

I'm with you on this one Hrolf. It was always an all the family drama, albeit with a mild undercurrent of progressive politics (the Daleks as the racially pure, master race etc.). Now it is just an exercise in inclusivity presented as drama. It is very bad indeed.

BTW, I am becoming a bore on this, but the BBC have to do this inclusivity thing as there is secondary legislation tied to the Equality Act that requires it. If you don't like it, stop moaning on message boards and write to your MP.

I am not sure what the BBC will do if freed from the legislative shackles, but it couldn't be as bad as the kak they are spitting out now to obey the law and keep the Charter.

On this, don't waste your breath with a tory MP. They hate this woke crud too. However, they are mostly ideologically bent against the BBC and I suspect are more than happy that the law forces them to alienate more viewers every day.

Silvertop, are you able to provide any more specific details (which section of which Act, any accompanying guidance etc?).

I have become increasingly concerned about this. My place of work is proudly compelling me to discriminate, very much against my will. Specifically:

1. When I interview candidates, I must form a panel which is diverse in terms of race and gender. I am so dull as to only occupy one of each, so I had to ask a female colleague of Asian heritage to join me on the panel regardless of her personal suitability for the task, and also explain that if she can't make it, I need to find another non-white female because in the eyes of this insane woke legislation, you lot are all the same.

2. They are introducing targets (quotas) regarding the racial composition of the workplace, which they want me to factor in when deciding who to employ. I researched this, and found that generally speaking positive discrimination is illegal under (then EU, perhaps now just UK?) law, because any form of discrimination is illegal. However, there is a clause allowing a place of employment to introduce race as a criterion for employment if that organisation feels that a particular racial group is disadvantaged at that time.

I looked into this further. From what I could gather, firstly, race could only be used as a kind of tie-breaker (i.e two candidates had to be equally appointable before race could be used to separate them). Secondly, the employing company doesn't need to demonstrate to anyone that a particular race is, as a matter of fact, disadvantaged in order to introduce positive discrimination - they just have to believe it is so. Thirdly, even if an employer feels a racial group is disadvantaged there is no compulsion to use positive discrimination, it is a choice an employer can make.

It seems to me that far from positive discrimination being forced upon my employer by the regulations, it is my employer who has actively chosen this path.

 

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