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| Hoof Hearted 19 Mar 16 9.16am | |
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Originally posted by jcreedy
I still think he'll lead this country. .... into the wilderness?
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| Hoof Hearted 19 Mar 16 9.25am | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Probly down to George and Dave cocking things up and snatching money from the most needy more than Jezza. Edited by nickgusset (18 Mar 2016 8.24pm) A tiny 1% lead after a disastrous Budget attacking the disabled and rewarding the rich and Ian Duncan Smiths shock resignation - effectively a week where the Tories have shot themselves in both feet and came across as the nasty party! Imagine what Labour's lead might have been had Burnham won the leadership contest and was leading a credible opposition to government?
I would guess you might have been 10% or more ahead. Corbyn is a turn off to most voters. Edited by Hoof Hearted (19 Mar 2016 9.27am)
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nickgusset  Shizzlehurst 19 Mar 16 10.12am |
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He's speaaking at NUT conference on Friday. 1st political leader to do so since I've been going.
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  Hrolf The Ganger 19 Mar 16 5.50pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
He's speaaking at NUT conference on Friday. 1st political leader to do so since I've been going. Is he wearing some new flared trousers to get that 70's, 15% pay rise authenticity? Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (19 Mar 2016 5.50pm)
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| dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 19 Mar 16 8.23pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Is he wearing some new flared trousers to get that 70's, 15% pay rise authenticity? Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (19 Mar 2016 5.50pm) You could put that scruffy cnut in a £40,000 William Westmancott suit and he'd still look like a bag s***. Weedy little scruffy s***, who would sell the falkland Islanders down the river in the blink of eye, thus insulting ALL those who paid for their freedom with the ultimate sacrifice. The fact that he f***ed that fat racist cnut Abbott is testament to his personel standards level.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 19 Mar 16 8.51pm |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
A tiny 1% lead after a disastrous Budget attacking the disabled and rewarding the rich and Ian Duncan Smiths shock resignation - effectively a week where the Tories have shot themselves in both feet and came across as the nasty party! Imagine what Labour's lead might have been had Burnham won the leadership contest and was leading a credible opposition to government?
I would guess you might have been 10% or more ahead. Corbyn is a turn off to most voters. Edited by Hoof Hearted (19 Mar 2016 9.27am) Surely you mean another week. I'm not sure on Corbyn with the voters, I think he might have that 'Saunders / Trump / Farage' appeal with a lot of people. He'll either continue to do better than people in the know think, or completely tank it in a manner that would make the 1997 defeat of the Tories look gentle. I'm not sure people of a right wing bent tend to see how the labour party under Blair and Brown gutted itself to appeal to swing voters. Thing is, Corbyn will need to win back Scotland from the SNP to have a real chance of actually winning. And I don't see that happening. Edited by jamiemartin721 (19 Mar 2016 8.54pm)
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| dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 19 Mar 16 9.00pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Surely you mean another week. I'm not sure on Corbyn with the voters, I think he might have that 'Saunders / Trump / Farage' appeal with a lot of people. He'll either continue to do better than people in the know think, or completely tank it in a manner that would make the 1997 defeat of the Tories look gentle. I'm not sure people of a right wing bent tend to see how the labour party under Blair and Brown gutted itself to appeal to swing voters. Thing is, Corbyn will need to win back Scotland from the SNP to have a real chance of actually winning. And I don't see that happening. Edited by jamiemartin721 (19 Mar 2016 8.54pm) he couldnt beat a one legged man in an arse kicking contest. Liberal lefty utopian idea of a leadership. If he was a car he would be a reliant robin, or a gee whiz.
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| Hoof Hearted 20 Mar 16 10.01am | |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Surely you mean another week. I'm not sure on Corbyn with the voters, I think he might have that 'Saunders / Trump / Farage' appeal with a lot of people. He'll either continue to do better than people in the know think, or completely tank it in a manner that would make the 1997 defeat of the Tories look gentle. I'm not sure people of a right wing bent tend to see how the labour party under Blair and Brown gutted itself to appeal to swing voters. Thing is, Corbyn will need to win back Scotland from the SNP to have a real chance of actually winning. And I don't see that happening. Edited by jamiemartin721 (19 Mar 2016 8.54pm) The most accurate part of your reply.
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21 Mar 16 12.45am Bubbs  Edinburgh 21 Mar 16 4.22am |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
A tiny 1% lead after a disastrous Budget attacking the disabled and rewarding the rich and Ian Duncan Smiths shock resignation - effectively a week where the Tories have shot themselves in both feet and came across as the nasty party! Imagine what Labour's lead might have been had Burnham won the leadership contest and was leading a credible opposition to government?
I would guess you might have been 10% or more ahead. Corbyn is a turn off to most voters. Edited by Hoof Hearted (19 Mar 2016 9.27am)
The next poll will no doubt show Labour further ahead....especially now Cameron has hung his best mate out to dry.
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| matt_himself Matataland 21 Mar 16 5.25am |
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Originally posted by jcreedy
Maybe it's a generational thing, but some of you really don't seem to realise how much support he's gaining. Dismissing him as a scruffy old man is lazy. If that is true, how come Labour are doing so badly in Wales & Scotland, its traditional stomping ground and supposedly the most left wing places in the UK? You may superficially get a few nods of approval from the young in London but I don't think he as popular as you think.
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| matt_himself Matataland 21 Mar 16 7.46am |
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Originally posted by Kingvagabond
Probably about the same time as the tories do something about the likes of Gulzabeen Afsar and UKIP do anything about any member of their party? And that's the blueprint for the 'Straight talking, honest politics' Corbyn has promised? Each day, Corbyn looks more and more like a typical Westminister hack and not the messiah Momentum and their sort proclaim him to be.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 21 Mar 16 9.44am |
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Definitely the issue of actual anti-Semitism needs to be tackled in all political parties, along with racism, sectarianism, sexism, homophobia. Its absurd in all its forms.
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| Hoof Hearted 21 Mar 16 9.58am | |
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Originally posted by jcreedy
Maybe it's a generational thing, but some of you really don't seem to realise how much support he's gaining. Dismissing him as a scruffy old man is lazy. It's a common sense thing, nothing to do with generations! Foot, Kinnock, Miliband, were dismissed because they looked and acted like complete bozo's. The public has made it's mind up about Corbyn too.... and it aint good! The Labour Party are wasting their time supporting him as no matter how bad the Tories are, most people will not support Compo... err.. I meant...Corbyn.
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| Hoof Hearted 21 Mar 16 10.02am | |
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Originally posted by Bubbs
The next poll will no doubt show Labour further ahead....especially now Cameron has hung his best mate out to dry. The Independent are just sh1t stirring. IDS has lobbed in a grenade but it hasn't split Camerborne. Bojo won't be invited to the next Bullingdon Club reunion though....
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| matt_himself Matataland 21 Mar 16 10.28am |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Definitely the issue of actual anti-Semitism needs to be tackled in all political parties, along with racism, sectarianism, sexism, homophobia. Its absurd in all its forms. Two points: you insert the word 'actual' into the above, does this mean you don't view the Vicki Kirby case as 'actual' anti Semitic. Do you view it as 'high jinks'? If it was a Tory or a Kipper making similar veined tweets about Muslims, I bet you would have a different view. Also, I agree this needs to be tackled and Mr 'honest politics' Corbyn has true ideal opportunity to squash it now within his own party. However, he seems very reluctant to do that. Why could that be?
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| Midlands Eagle 21 Mar 16 10.36am |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
Foot, Kinnock, Miliband, were dismissed because they looked and acted like complete bozo's. The public has made it's mind up about Corbyn too.... and it aint good! The Labour Party are wasting their time supporting him as no matter how bad the Tories are, most people will not support Compo... err.. I meant...Corbyn. Surely it's the public in the shape of the trade union members that voted him in as the Labour MPs certainly didn't want him
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 21 Mar 16 10.38am |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
It's a common sense thing, nothing to do with generations! Foot, Kinnock, Miliband, were dismissed because they looked and acted like complete bozo's. The public has made it's mind up about Corbyn too.... and it aint good! The Labour Party are wasting their time supporting him as no matter how bad the Tories are, most people will not support Compo... err.. I meant...Corbyn. IDS (no confidence vote), Hague (a second landslide), Major (total landslide) and Howard (defeated)? Democracy in action. I'd be concerned if I was the Conservatives, someone like Corbyn is a more of a wild card - Like Farage and the Greens, their appeal is hard to predict because they're not responding to the media and often benefit as protest votes - As much will depend on how the Tories fare in the inbetween years - Corbyn I don't think will win unless the Tories f**k up, or the SNP collapse. The question isn't really whether Corbyn would win, but whether or not the Conservatives can deliver on promises and avoid any really serious f**k ups between now and the election. Its like Leicester, its theirs to lose.
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