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Hoof Hearted 09 Jun 16 4.51pm
Originally posted by chris123 Bombardier are Canadian. Hitachi are Japanese.

Hoof Hearted 09 Jun 16 4.51pm

Originally posted by chris123

Bombardier are Canadian.

Hitachi are Japanese.

Kermit8 Hevon 09 Jun 16 4.56pm
odds pretty much 1 to 4 in favour of remain now across the board. Same as three weeks ago. [Link] Big chest and massive boobs [Link]

Kermit8

Hevon 09 Jun 16 4.56pm

odds pretty much 1 to 4 in favour of remain now across the board. Same as three weeks ago.

[Link]

Big chest and massive boobs

[Link]

DanH SW2 09 Jun 16 5.03pm
Genuine question - do UKIP go away if remain wins?

DanH

SW2 09 Jun 16 5.03pm

Genuine question - do UKIP go away if remain wins?

Sg Bilko Deurne Holland 09 Jun 16 5.04pm
Originally posted by npn I'm no expert, but Remain are not contesting the £350m figure, merely the fact that it excludes rebates. If the facts are as you state, surely they'd be all over it? I seem to remember that David Cameron did say those figures are incorrect sometime back, as did George Osborne.

Sg Bilko

Deurne Holland 09 Jun 16 5.04pm

Originally posted by npn

I'm no expert, but Remain are not contesting the £350m figure, merely the fact that it excludes rebates.

If the facts are as you state, surely they'd be all over it?

I seem to remember that David Cameron did say those figures are incorrect sometime back, as did George Osborne.

Stuk Top half 09 Jun 16 5.08pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 odds pretty much 1 to 4 in favour of remain now across the board. Same as three weeks ago. [Link] It was down to 2/5 before they started the fix of moving the registration date. Optimistic as ever

Stuk

Top half 09 Jun 16 5.08pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

odds pretty much 1 to 4 in favour of remain now across the board. Same as three weeks ago.

[Link]

It was down to 2/5 before they started the fix of moving the registration date.

Optimistic as ever

blackpalacefan 09 Jun 16 5.16pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 odds pretty much 1 to 4 in favour of remain now across the board. Same as three weeks ago. [Link] i cannot understand this. im remain but feel like most arent

blackpalacefan

09 Jun 16 5.16pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

odds pretty much 1 to 4 in favour of remain now across the board. Same as three weeks ago.

[Link]

i cannot understand this. im remain but feel like most arent

DanH SW2 09 Jun 16 5.22pm
I think there's a lot of people who will vote remain but aren't very vocal about it. It's the Brexiteers that are pumping out all the hot air and making the most noise.

DanH

SW2 09 Jun 16 5.22pm

I think there's a lot of people who will vote remain but aren't very vocal about it.

It's the Brexiteers that are pumping out all the hot air and making the most noise.

Hrolf The Ganger 09 Jun 16 6.06pm
Originally posted by DanH I think there's a lot of people who will vote remain but aren't very vocal about it. It's the Brexiteers that are pumping out all the hot air and making the most noise. I think the opposite is true.

Hrolf The Ganger

09 Jun 16 6.06pm

Originally posted by DanH

I think there's a lot of people who will vote remain but aren't very vocal about it.

It's the Brexiteers that are pumping out all the hot air and making the most noise.

I think the opposite is true.

Stuk Top half 09 Jun 16 6.31pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger I think the opposite is true. As do I. Optimistic as ever

Stuk

Top half 09 Jun 16 6.31pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I think the opposite is true.

As do I.

Optimistic as ever

snytaxx London 09 Jun 16 6.38pm
Originally posted by Stuk As do I. I still think there are lots of 'dont knows'. I'd say about 40% are firmly in remain, 40% in leave, about 20% literally don't know or don't care (or both). Its all very well polling these people, but the reality will they come out and vote... Only time will tell.

snytaxx

London 09 Jun 16 6.38pm

Originally posted by Stuk

As do I.

I still think there are lots of 'dont knows'. I'd say about 40% are firmly in remain, 40% in leave, about 20% literally don't know or don't care (or both). Its all very well polling these people, but the reality will they come out and vote... Only time will tell.

snytaxx London 09 Jun 16 6.42pm
Originally posted by DanH I think there's a lot of people who will vote remain but aren't very vocal about it. It's the Brexiteers that are pumping out all the hot air and making the most noise. The government decided to spend £9m quid on a leaflet to go to every UK household, it then had the treasury pumping out wave after wave of fiddled figures for about 2 weeks before the official campaign even started. I don't deny there has been plenty of hot air from the leave side, but at least they haven't been spending tax payers money on it or getting half the civil service to manufacture it. Cameron even said there would be a war! If that isn't hot air, what is?

snytaxx

London 09 Jun 16 6.42pm

Originally posted by DanH

I think there's a lot of people who will vote remain but aren't very vocal about it.

It's the Brexiteers that are pumping out all the hot air and making the most noise.

The government decided to spend £9m quid on a leaflet to go to every UK household, it then had the treasury pumping out wave after wave of fiddled figures for about 2 weeks before the official campaign even started. I don't deny there has been plenty of hot air from the leave side, but at least they haven't been spending tax payers money on it or getting half the civil service to manufacture it. Cameron even said there would be a war! If that isn't hot air, what is?

snytaxx London 09 Jun 16 6.48pm
Originally posted by Sg Bilko I seem to remember that David Cameron did say those figures are incorrect sometime back, as did George Osborne. Two people who rely on a strong remain vote in order to stay in power saying that the £350 mil figure is incorrect... Im shocked!

snytaxx

London 09 Jun 16 6.48pm

Originally posted by Sg Bilko

I seem to remember that David Cameron did say those figures are incorrect sometime back, as did George Osborne.

Two people who rely on a strong remain vote in order to stay in power saying that the £350 mil figure is incorrect...

Im shocked!

leifandersonshair Newport 09 Jun 16 6.58pm
Originally posted by DanH Genuine question - do UKIP go away if remain wins? If that were the case, then the Remain Campaign should say so- guaranteed at least 90% voting remain at that point

leifandersonshair

Newport 09 Jun 16 6.58pm

Originally posted by DanH

Genuine question - do UKIP go away if remain wins?

If that were the case, then the Remain Campaign should say so- guaranteed at least 90% voting remain at that point

-TUX- Alphabettispaghetti 09 Jun 16 7.32pm
Originally posted by DanH I think there's a lot of people who will vote remain but aren't very vocal about it. It's the Brexiteers that are pumping out all the hot air and making the most noise. This is my take on things, but rather than being politically/economically/socially motivated, i believe it's purely because many people are just plain scared of 'change' (in my experience) and this vote has been blown out of all proportion. Just as with any General Election, the vast majority of us will notice no change to our lives whatsoever regardless of the result, life goes on. This is a vote against the corporate elite, sadly one that we are losing regardless of whether we're in or out. Oh well, sh-t happens. Time to move forward together.

-TUX-

Alphabettispaghetti 09 Jun 16 7.32pm

Originally posted by DanH

I think there's a lot of people who will vote remain but aren't very vocal about it.

It's the Brexiteers that are pumping out all the hot air and making the most noise.

This is my take on things, but rather than being politically/economically/socially motivated, i believe it's purely because many people are just plain scared of 'change' (in my experience) and this vote has been blown out of all proportion. Just as with any General Election, the vast majority of us will notice no change to our lives whatsoever regardless of the result, life goes on.
This is a vote against the corporate elite, sadly one that we are losing regardless of whether we're in or out.

Oh well, sh-t happens.

Time to move forward together.

Tom-the-eagle Croydon 09 Jun 16 7.42pm
Originally posted by DanH Genuine question - do UKIP go away if remain wins? Dan, I could bizarrely see UKIP becoming much stronger if they lose, particularly if the result is fairly close. Look at Scotland, they voted to remain which you would of thought marked the end for the SNP however what it actually did was galvanise their support and brought together voters from other parties who also wished to break away. This showed via their huge successes in the general elections. In a bizarre way, a (close) vote to remain may actually propel UKIPs popularity. Separate point - I could also see Johnson/Gove and several other prominent out campaigners joining UKIP after the elections. Edited by Tom-the-eagle (09 Jun 2016 7.43pm) "It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

Tom-the-eagle

Croydon 09 Jun 16 7.42pm

Originally posted by DanH

Genuine question - do UKIP go away if remain wins?

Dan,

I could bizarrely see UKIP becoming much stronger if they lose, particularly if the result is fairly close.

Look at Scotland, they voted to remain which you would of thought marked the end for the SNP however what it actually did was galvanise their support and brought together voters from other parties who also wished to break away. This showed via their huge successes in the general elections.

In a bizarre way, a (close) vote to remain may actually propel UKIPs popularity.

Separate point - I could also see Johnson/Gove and several other prominent out campaigners joining UKIP after the elections.

Edited by Tom-the-eagle (09 Jun 2016 7.43pm)

"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

Stirlingsays 09 Jun 16 7.50pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 I blame the Vikings and Normans. English people will always exist but their make-up has been malleable for a very long time now. No doubt in 300 years some English people will be bemoaning change in their society too. Your post should be sent to every remain voter so that they can see the attitudes of the core 'remain' camp. So sorry for bemoaning the rate of change and the lack of power to adapt it within England. You know...England....where the English are meant to live. Never mind, whatever happens to England will eventually happen to crappy Scotland as well. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

09 Jun 16 7.50pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

I blame the Vikings and Normans.

English people will always exist but their make-up has been malleable for a very long time now. No doubt in 300 years some English people will be bemoaning change in their society too.

Your post should be sent to every remain voter so that they can see the attitudes of the core 'remain' camp.

So sorry for bemoaning the rate of change and the lack of power to adapt it within England.

You know...England....where the English are meant to live.

Never mind, whatever happens to England will eventually happen to crappy Scotland as well.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 09 Jun 16 8.52pm
I'm not saying this to try and persuade as some people will try and have you believe, I'm still undecided - in fact the closer it gets the harder I'm finding it, but would we feasibly see a sharp influx of immigrants before borders are restricted if we vote to leave. Many effects of leaving will take a while to take effect.

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 09 Jun 16 8.52pm

I'm not saying this to try and persuade as some people will try and have you believe, I'm still undecided - in fact the closer it gets the harder I'm finding it, but would we feasibly see a sharp influx of immigrants before borders are restricted if we vote to leave. Many effects of leaving will take a while to take effect.

Hrolf The Ganger 09 Jun 16 9.41pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 I blame the Vikings and Normans. English people will always exist but their make-up has been malleable for a very long time now. No doubt in 300 years some English people will be bemoaning change in their society too. That is one of the biggest lies or modern times. The British make up has hardly changed in hundreds if not thousands of years. Please stop perpetuating these stupid myths. The recent arrivals represent an unprecedented change to the population. The Romans, the Normans made hardly a ripple in our gene pool and even the Angles, Saxons, Jutes and Danes probably only amounted to a few thousands.

Hrolf The Ganger

09 Jun 16 9.41pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

I blame the Vikings and Normans.

English people will always exist but their make-up has been malleable for a very long time now. No doubt in 300 years some English people will be bemoaning change in their society too.

That is one of the biggest lies or modern times.

The British make up has hardly changed in hundreds if not thousands of years.

Please stop perpetuating these stupid myths.

The recent arrivals represent an unprecedented change to the population.

The Romans, the Normans made hardly a ripple in our gene pool and even the Angles, Saxons, Jutes and Danes probably only amounted to a few thousands.

Stuk Top half 09 Jun 16 9.44pm
Originally posted by -TUX- This is my take on things, but rather than being politically/economically/socially motivated, i believe it's purely because many people are just plain scared of 'change' (in my experience) and this vote has been blown out of all proportion. Just as with any General Election, the vast majority of us will notice no change to our lives whatsoever regardless of the result, life goes on. All of this is the nail on the head. In/Out life will go on. Optimistic as ever

Stuk

Top half 09 Jun 16 9.44pm

Originally posted by -TUX-

All of this is the nail on the head.

In/Out life will go on.

Optimistic as ever

blackpalacefan 09 Jun 16 9.58pm
Originally posted by Stuk All of this is the nail on the head. In/Out life will go on. You're both on the money i feel sorry for people thinking the country is going to undergo great change as result of the vote. Even if we vote out in a blink of an eye government will agree to free movement within trade deals. They will appease just enough to keep the staus quo. The little people have no real power. realising that is a hard but necessary truth in life and lets you lend your time to all that you control instead of all that you dont. Some need a reality check not a vote.

blackpalacefan

09 Jun 16 9.58pm

Originally posted by Stuk

All of this is the nail on the head.

In/Out life will go on.

You're both on the money i feel sorry for people thinking the country is going to undergo great change as result of the vote. Even if we vote out in a blink of an eye government will agree to free movement within trade deals. They will appease just enough to keep the staus quo. The little people have no real power. realising that is a hard but necessary truth in life and lets you lend your time to all that you control instead of all that you dont. Some need a reality check not a vote.

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