I started watching it but I've already seen this stuff from years ago.

There are many explosions within the buildings due to the damage done by the impacts and fire igniting combustibles. For example, some elevators came down that caused fatalities at lobbies.

Explosions and destruction were obviously happening and then you have people in highly stressful situations reacting and trying to make sense of it all.

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'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

I watched it all live, from the moment the TV stations started reporting a plane had flown into one tower. I saw the second plane hit the second tower, which is when it was obviously not an accident. Then the rescue attempts, with footage from inside the lobbies with sound of bodies hitting the ground outside, and outside of them falling. I don't recall any of it being shown again, as it was too awful. They also had an expert on how structures of that kind would react and he was screaming that they needed to get everyone they could, out and away and to stop any rescue attempts from the upper floors. He knew the intense heat from the fire would cause the steel to melt, at which point the weight of the levels above would cause the collapse. He knew what was going to happen and was proved totally correct. I have no idea what happened to that man, or his testimony, but it puts all the conspiracy theories back in their boxes.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

It was an event that shaped the direction of the world.

I encourage people not to take things at face value and to look at things with fresh eyes. When I looked at 9/11 the vast majority of the conspiracy theories just don't pan out for me.

Other than the Mossad knowing about the attack.

That said, I've no doubt that none of us know the full picture of most that goes on around us.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

You beat me to it. Russell Davies is going full in at least if he fails he can say he did it his way.

My guess is that in a few years it wont be Doctor Who but more like Doctor Who?

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I know there are fan sites for the show I wonder how they are feeling about this direction?

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I guess we are on a countdown to Dr Who coming out as 'gay', whatever gender the character is meant to be.

Similar to the ratings, I don't think time will be kind.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

I make no secret of my dislike of the BBC so I'm loving it. The more they are criticised for pandering to minority interest groups whilst ignoring the majority the deeper the whole they dig.

This is so like the left, faced with an obvious challenge to their existence instead of moderating their views to mollify people like me they doubled down.

It would be quite simple for the BBC to make some mainstream cultural shows whilst keeping all their other favourites but no they would rather take a mass entertainment show that was developed for kids and turn it into an activist rights show.

Keep it Auntie the days of the licence fee are numbered the word Lemmings spring to mind.

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As you know I am not anti BBC (World Service, BBC4, 6Music, masses of top educational shows linked with the OU etc.) and they remain wedged between the Equality Act and the Charter, but it is difficult not to disagree with much of what you say.

This is largely self-inflicted.

To be fair to the BBC with regards to the Tranny in Doctor Who then you have to give them a modicum of respect.

Yes, I loathe them and detest all the woke bollocks but if you want to stick two fingers up at Gammons like me, this is the way to do it.

Always admired an opponent who makes no pretence about despising me and giving zero f***s. A far healthier, for all concerned, approach them trying to make a pretence of us somehow being able to reach a compromise.

The BBC knows it is a dead man walking. And like all such people/organisations, you have to give kudos where it is due if they decide to carry on sticking two fingers up at the people they blame for their demise.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

I agree but I doubt the BBC thinks it is going to lose the licence. They will wake up (not woke up) when it is too late.

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