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Originally posted by matt_himself
Two points: you insert the word 'actual' into the above, does this mean you don't view the Vicki Kirby case as 'actual' anti Semitic. Do you view it as 'high jinks'? If it was a Tory or a Kipper making similar veined tweets about Muslims, I bet you would have a different view. Also, I agree this needs to be tackled and Mr 'honest politics' Corbyn has true ideal opportunity to squash it now within his own party. However, he seems very reluctant to do that. Why could that be? Actual anti-Semitism, I mean where its directed at people, rather than Israeli policy and actions. There is a nasty tendency for some to describe political criticism of Israel as anti-sematic.
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
IDS (no confidence vote), Hague (a second landslide), Major (total landslide) and Howard (defeated)? Democracy in action. I'd be concerned if I was the Conservatives, someone like Corbyn is a more of a wild card - Like Farage and the Greens, their appeal is hard to predict because they're not responding to the media and often benefit as protest votes - As much will depend on how the Tories fare in the inbetween years - Corbyn I don't think will win unless the Tories f**k up, or the SNP collapse. The question isn't really whether Corbyn would win, but whether or not the Conservatives can deliver on promises and avoid any really serious f**k ups between now and the election. Its like Leicester, its theirs to lose. You've strengthened my argument jamie. The lame ducks you mentioned and I highlighted in red were perceived to be unelectable in the minds of the voters. Major actually demonstrated he was unfit for PM by his short disastrous term in office. The rest of your post is just guff. No matter what happens between now and 2020 the majority of people have made their minds up about Corbyn and he is considered unstatesmanlike (scruffy to you) untrustworthy, dangerous, a 70's throwback, black-pig shagger (Abbott), poor decision maker (Abbott again) etc etc
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Actual anti-Semitism, I mean where its directed at people, rather than Israeli policy and actions. There is a nasty tendency for some to describe political criticism of Israel as anti-sematic. Do you think the Vicki Kirby incident is 'actual anti semitism'?
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Originally posted by matt_himself
Also, I agree this needs to be tackled and Mr 'honest politics' Corbyn has true ideal opportunity to squash it now within his own party. However, he seems very reluctant to do that. Why could that be? If he was reluctant, how come he has launched an inquiry? Perhaps the press thought it better not to mention that bit.
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Originally posted by nickgusset
If he was reluctant, how come he has launched an inquiry? Perhaps the press thought it better not to mention that bit. #Owned
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Actual anti-Semitism, I mean where its directed at people, rather than Israeli policy and actions. There is a nasty tendency for some to describe political criticism of Israel as anti-sematic. I was quite shocked to read a notice a local resident had pinned to their fence claiming a public order offence by their neighbour who upon discovering their neighbour's daughter was serving in the IDF, had put up placards in their front garden referring to Israeli apartheid and calling for boycotts etc. That is criticism of the authorities directed at an individual so I'm glad by your own definition you'd consider that anti-semitism.
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Originally posted by nickgusset
If he was reluctant, how come he has launched an inquiry? Perhaps the press thought it better not to mention that bit. Why was she suspended twice and allowed to become vice chair of a local party in between suspensions? From the outside, it appears that Labour let her off and then reacted to a public outcry after she was allowed to stand for office. At face value, it smells and, Gusset, if it was a Tory or Kipper saying something offensive about a Muslim, you'd be all over it, labelling them all 'cunds'. BTW, your disgust at what she put on Twitter is noticeable by its absence.
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Originally posted by nickgusset
If he was reluctant, how come he has launched an inquiry? Perhaps the press thought it better not to mention that bit. I have just read that Corbyn instigated the enquiry after a police complaint was raised about her comments. #honest politics - yeah, right!
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| Hoof Hearted 21 Mar 16 3.51pm | |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
I have just read that Corbyn instigated the enquiry after a police complaint was raised about her comments. #honest politics - yeah, right! Labour have a track record of this hypocrisy with Party members being given 2nd/3rd chances to rejoin and hold lofty positions after some pretty bad scandals ...... Mandelson, Blunkett, Vaz anyone? I expect a lefty comeback with Tory transgressors too BTW.
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
Labour have a track record of this hypocrisy with Party members being given 2nd/3rd chances to rejoin and hold lofty positions after some pretty bad scandals ...... Mandelson, Blunkett, Vaz anyone? I expect a lefty comeback with Tory transgressors too BTW. Whatever the party, they're all politicians, ergo; c*nts.
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Originally posted by matt_himself
And that's the blueprint for the 'Straight talking, honest politics' Corbyn has promised? Each day, Corbyn looks more and more like a typical Westminister hack and not the messiah Momentum and their sort proclaim him to be. Actually it was a glib reply from me highlighting the idiotical partisanship in the assertion of anti Semitism in Labour without any recognition of it in any other party.
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Corbyn got a rousing reception from the NUT earlier.
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Corbyn got a rousing reception from the NUT earlier. I thought you had flounced out of teaching because they were making you work and be accountable or something? You made a big song and dance about it but I have forgotten the specifics.
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Originally posted by matt_himself
I thought you had flounced out of teaching because they were making you work and be accountable or something? You made a big song and dance about it but I have forgotten the specifics. I expect he has as well, by now.
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Corbyn got a rousing reception from the NUT earlier. Rousing reception from the NUT - hardly a surprise ! My wife used to be in ATL.
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Originally posted by matt_himself
I thought you had flounced out of teaching because they were making you work and be accountable or something? You made a big song and dance about it but I have forgotten the specifics. Here in my capacity as division president.
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