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Qwijibo Bournemouth 28 Aug 22 6.19pm
Originally posted by YT You've written what I've come to accept, which is that sadly Brighton are much better than we are at the moment, as a club and a team. Yeah, but they are still hipster bellends.

Qwijibo

Bournemouth 28 Aug 22 6.19pm

Originally posted by YT

You've written what I've come to accept, which is that sadly Brighton are much better than we are at the moment, as a club and a team.

Yeah, but they are still hipster bellends.

YT Oxford 28 Aug 22 6.40pm
Originally posted by Qwijibo Yeah, but they are still hipster bellends. The adjective isn't really needed in that sentence. Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

Oxford 28 Aug 22 6.40pm

Originally posted by Qwijibo

Yeah, but they are still hipster bellends.

The adjective isn't really needed in that sentence.

Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 28 Aug 22 6.54pm
Originally posted by YT You've written what I've come to accept, which is that sadly Brighton are much better than we are at the moment, as a club and a team. As sure as God is an Englishman, we will overcome them. Red and Blue Army!

ASCPFC

Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 28 Aug 22 6.54pm

Originally posted by YT

You've written what I've come to accept, which is that sadly Brighton are much better than we are at the moment, as a club and a team.

As sure as God is an Englishman, we will overcome them.

Red and Blue Army!

Nubes London 28 Aug 22 7.27pm
Originally posted by tonymikejoe The Mitchell injury on top of being cheated out of a fair goal to put us 0-3 up was devastating. Our left back was still hobbling about and should not have been trying to carry on when the City scorer cut in from Mitchell's side to score a deflected goal. Unfortunately he was replaced by Richards, an inexperienced Premier League defender, who is obviously a right-sided centre-half asked to suddenly be a left-back away at the champions. Our squad was really shown up and exposed at this point, in fact what was happening on the pitch was such a mess Richards was switched over to the right side as the goals went in. A club our size can put out a decent first XI, but cannot compete with the squad depth and world-class subs a club like City can throw on as we struggle to make do and mend with limited resources.

Nubes

London 28 Aug 22 7.27pm

Originally posted by tonymikejoe

The Mitchell injury on top of being cheated out of a fair goal to put us 0-3 up was devastating.
Our left back was still hobbling about and should not have been trying to carry on when the City scorer cut in from Mitchell's side to score a deflected goal.
Unfortunately he was replaced by Richards, an inexperienced Premier League defender, who is obviously a right-sided centre-half asked to suddenly be a left-back away at the champions.
Our squad was really shown up and exposed at this point, in fact what was happening on the pitch was such a mess Richards was switched over to the right side as the goals went in.
A club our size can put out a decent first XI, but cannot compete with the squad depth and world-class subs a club like City can throw on as we struggle to make do and mend with limited resources.

regpaddock Suffolk 29 Aug 22 9.04am
Why was Ayew's goal dissallowed?

regpaddock

Suffolk 29 Aug 22 9.04am

Why was Ayew's goal dissallowed?

Badger11 Beckenham 29 Aug 22 9.14am
Originally posted by regpaddock Why was Ayew's goal dissallowed? Because City are not allowed to go 3-0 down. One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 29 Aug 22 9.14am

Originally posted by regpaddock

Why was Ayew's goal dissallowed?

Because City are not allowed to go 3-0 down.

One more point

Slimey Toad Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 29 Aug 22 9.34am
Can't do much about the Nazi they have upfront. He does look like a pin up on the wall of an SS officer.

Slimey Toad

Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 29 Aug 22 9.34am

Can't do much about the Nazi they have upfront. He does look like a pin up on the wall of an SS officer.

taylors lovechild 29 Aug 22 10.17am
Originally posted by YT You've written what I've come to accept, which is that sadly Brighton are much better than we are at the moment, as a club and a team. I'm convinced Potter is a Palace fan as he still hasn't let them beat us under his watch. Also, who's glad that f**king Maupay isn't there anymore? Be good to see him get relegated with Everton.

taylors lovechild

29 Aug 22 10.17am

Originally posted by YT

You've written what I've come to accept, which is that sadly Brighton are much better than we are at the moment, as a club and a team.

I'm convinced Potter is a Palace fan as he still hasn't let them beat us under his watch. Also, who's glad that f**king Maupay isn't there anymore? Be good to see him get relegated with Everton.

monkey Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 29 Aug 22 10.23am
It’s a good job Haaland is good at football, because that is one ugly looking bloke

monkey

Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 29 Aug 22 10.23am

It’s a good job Haaland is good at football, because that is one ugly looking bloke

doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 29 Aug 22 11.01am
Originally posted by monkey It’s a good job Haaland is good at football, because that is one ugly looking bloke Frightening in more ways than one. He'd look good in a remake of the the film "The Vikings" leading from the front with a massive club hammer.

doombear

Too far from Selhurst Park 29 Aug 22 11.01am

Originally posted by monkey

It’s a good job Haaland is good at football, because that is one ugly looking bloke

Frightening in more ways than one. He'd look good in a remake of the the film "The Vikings" leading from the front with a massive club hammer.

Hrolf The Ganger 29 Aug 22 11.08am
Originally posted by Slimey Toad Can't do much about the Nazi they have upfront. He does look like a pin up on the wall of an SS officer. Nice bit of racism. I must make a note that all tall blond men are Nazis.

Hrolf The Ganger

29 Aug 22 11.08am

Originally posted by Slimey Toad

Can't do much about the Nazi they have upfront. He does look like a pin up on the wall of an SS officer.

Nice bit of racism.

I must make a note that all tall blond men are Nazis.

silvertop Portishead 29 Aug 22 11.20am
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Nice bit of racism. I must make a note that all tall blond men are Nazis. Are you now this site's woke conscience?

silvertop

Portishead 29 Aug 22 11.20am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Nice bit of racism.

I must make a note that all tall blond men are Nazis.

Are you now this site's woke conscience?

Booted Eagle Bristol 29 Aug 22 11.21am
Would of been delighted with 5 points from the first 5 games at the beginning of the season. Will get that if we don't lose tomorrow and hoping for even better. Haaland could well be top scorer in the PL this season and looks a snip on the transfer market with the silly transfer fees being quoted at the moment. Hoping for a few new additions ourselves but hopefully won't be held to ransom. COYP !! “ [T]here are known knowns; there are things we know that we know.There are known unknowns; that is to say there are things that, we now know we don't know.But there are also unknown unknowns – there are things we do not know we don't know. ” —United States Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld

Booted Eagle

Bristol 29 Aug 22 11.21am

Would of been delighted with 5 points from the first 5 games at the beginning of the season. Will get that if we don't lose tomorrow and hoping for even better. Haaland could well be top scorer in the PL this season and looks a snip on the transfer market with the silly transfer fees being quoted at the moment. Hoping for a few new additions ourselves but hopefully won't be held to ransom. COYP !!

“ [T]here are known knowns; there are things we know that we know.There are known unknowns; that is to say there are things that, we now know we don't know.But there are also unknown unknowns – there are things we do not know we don't know. ”
—United States Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld

scary41 30 Aug 22 1.37pm
Originally posted by Nicholas91 Man City are not a football team as has been rightly stated. They are a commercial entity bankrolled by a corrupt regime and there may still be a few of the thousands (singular) who turned up to Maine Road occasionally still knocking about however, as I’ve previously articulated, the demographic of away fans when we play City is more akin to what you expect to see from a trip to Disneyland. The third goal cancellation is an absolute travesty, hence why I believe both the BBC and sky are refusing to even acknowledge it. Pat’s substitutions are a direct contrast to the managerial capability he’s shown, Richards should never have been thrown on in that position. Edouard has shown just what a mockery of professional football the Scottish league is. Mateta should be our main man. Bitterly disappointing, viscerally so, however anger should be limited. City and Liverpool away the two hardest games of the season easily and we’re past them without disgracing ourselves. I sincerely hope for an angry, full blooded retribution to be sought against Brentford and quite frankly we’ve had a million times worse seasons beginnings in recent years. No Wilf today either, hopefully back very soon. COYP Where do you think the rest of the City fans went, to support United? Newcastle were taken over towards the end of last season, do you think all of their fans from before the takeover have walked away and been replaced by a new set literally overnight?

scary41

30 Aug 22 1.37pm

Originally posted by Nicholas91

Man City are not a football team as has been rightly stated. They are a commercial entity bankrolled by a corrupt regime and there may still be a few of the thousands (singular) who turned up to Maine Road occasionally still knocking about however, as I’ve previously articulated, the demographic of away fans when we play City is more akin to what you expect to see from a trip to Disneyland.

The third goal cancellation is an absolute travesty, hence why I believe both the BBC and sky are refusing to even acknowledge it. Pat’s substitutions are a direct contrast to the managerial capability he’s shown, Richards should never have been thrown on in that position. Edouard has shown just what a mockery of professional football the Scottish league is. Mateta should be our main man.

Bitterly disappointing, viscerally so, however anger should be limited. City and Liverpool away the two hardest games of the season easily and we’re past them without disgracing ourselves.

I sincerely hope for an angry, full blooded retribution to be sought against Brentford and quite frankly we’ve had a million times worse seasons beginnings in recent years. No Wilf today either, hopefully back very soon.

COYP

Where do you think the rest of the City fans went, to support United? Newcastle were taken over towards the end of last season, do you think all of their fans from before the takeover have walked away and been replaced by a new set literally overnight?

Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 30 Aug 22 1.42pm
Originally posted by scary41 Where do you think the rest of the City fans went, to support United? Newcastle were taken over towards the end of last season, do you think all of their fans from before the takeover have walked away and been replaced by a new set literally overnight? I didn't suggest that they went anywhere, just merely that whenever we've played them the 'opposition fans' do not bare any resemblance to the Man City fans of old. Perhaps some of them cannot afford the luxury of watching City anymore just as a theory. Do you have any further questions or would you like me to explain further? Edit: Want to expand upon this for the removal of doubt. As an example, I distinctly remember shortly after the dirty Russian money turned up at Stamford Bridge going with a mate from school to a Chelsea match for his Birthday along with a few others. We were briefed to state we supported Chelsea before arriving at the bridge and were inevitably questioned by a few of the adults there. All followed diligently however being as I was then I proudly proclaimed 'Palace'. The reaction I got was a wry smirk and chuckle from a few who until that point had been snarling at what they perceived to be the new, Ambramovich era, suddenly inspired 'Chelsea fans'. I can very well see that happening at Newcastle however have no way of foretelling it. It certainly won't happen overnight, but it has happened at City. Every single time we've played them and on both my trips to the Etihad the 'crowd' has of course some 'proper' City fans however the number of foreign faces/voices and general demeanour/behaviour of many are more reminiscent of those visiting a tourist attraction. A very long sight from what I remember before or see at/with other clubs. I quite enjoyed chatting to a few Villa fans the other day. Personally, I cannot see anything worse happening to Palace. There is a deep bond shared between 'true' supporters, a shared ecstasy at the best of moments and equally heartbreak and anger at the worst of times. Those kindred spirits would soon be diluted by the 'tourists' were we to start operating with a £500million transfer budget each window. All at a cost to what must feel a hollow and unearned glory to any real fan. I'd sooner bemoan a loss to Walsall on the train home with strangers who instantly become family than watch Palace lift a Champions League with people who can't even spell 'Norwood' let alone point it out on the f**king map. Edited by Nicholas91 (30 Aug 2022 1.59pm) Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

Nicholas91

The Democratic Republic of Kent 30 Aug 22 1.42pm

Originally posted by scary41

I didn't suggest that they went anywhere, just merely that whenever we've played them the 'opposition fans' do not bare any resemblance to the Man City fans of old. Perhaps some of them cannot afford the luxury of watching City anymore just as a theory.

Do you have any further questions or would you like me to explain further?

Edit: Want to expand upon this for the removal of doubt.

As an example, I distinctly remember shortly after the dirty Russian money turned up at Stamford Bridge going with a mate from school to a Chelsea match for his Birthday along with a few others. We were briefed to state we supported Chelsea before arriving at the bridge and were inevitably questioned by a few of the adults there. All followed diligently however being as I was then I proudly proclaimed 'Palace'. The reaction I got was a wry smirk and chuckle from a few who until that point had been snarling at what they perceived to be the new, Ambramovich era, suddenly inspired 'Chelsea fans'.

I can very well see that happening at Newcastle however have no way of foretelling it. It certainly won't happen overnight, but it has happened at City. Every single time we've played them and on both my trips to the Etihad the 'crowd' has of course some 'proper' City fans however the number of foreign faces/voices and general demeanour/behaviour of many are more reminiscent of those visiting a tourist attraction. A very long sight from what I remember before or see at/with other clubs. I quite enjoyed chatting to a few Villa fans the other day.

Personally, I cannot see anything worse happening to Palace. There is a deep bond shared between 'true' supporters, a shared ecstasy at the best of moments and equally heartbreak and anger at the worst of times. Those kindred spirits would soon be diluted by the 'tourists' were we to start operating with a £500million transfer budget each window. All at a cost to what must feel a hollow and unearned glory to any real fan.

I'd sooner bemoan a loss to Walsall on the train home with strangers who instantly become family than watch Palace lift a Champions League with people who can't even spell 'Norwood' let alone point it out on the f**king map.

Edited by Nicholas91 (30 Aug 2022 1.59pm)

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 30 Aug 22 1.48pm
Originally posted by Nicholas91 I didn't suggest that they went anywhere, just merely that whenever we've played them the 'opposition fans' do not bare any resemblance to the Man City fans of old. Perhaps some of them cannot afford the luxury of watching City anymore just as a theory. Do you have any further questions or would you like me to explain further? I remember my brother getting a hiding off Man City. Funny, because he's massive and a runner. I must have out ran him that day. Red and Blue Army!

ASCPFC

Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 30 Aug 22 1.48pm

Originally posted by Nicholas91

Do you have any further questions or would you like me to explain further?

I remember my brother getting a hiding off Man City. Funny, because he's massive and a runner. I must have out ran him that day.

Red and Blue Army!

scary41 30 Aug 22 2.57pm
Originally posted by Nicholas91 I didn't suggest that they went anywhere, just merely that whenever we've played them the 'opposition fans' do not bare any resemblance to the Man City fans of old. Perhaps some of them cannot afford the luxury of watching City anymore just as a theory. Do you have any further questions or would you like me to explain further? Edit: Want to expand upon this for the removal of doubt. As an example, I distinctly remember shortly after the dirty Russian money turned up at Stamford Bridge going with a mate from school to a Chelsea match for his Birthday along with a few others. We were briefed to state we supported Chelsea before arriving at the bridge and were inevitably questioned by a few of the adults there. All followed diligently however being as I was then I proudly proclaimed 'Palace'. The reaction I got was a wry smirk and chuckle from a few who until that point had been snarling at what they perceived to be the new, Ambramovich era, suddenly inspired 'Chelsea fans'. I can very well see that happening at Newcastle however have no way of foretelling it. It certainly won't happen overnight, but it has happened at City. Every single time we've played them and on both my trips to the Etihad the 'crowd' has of course some 'proper' City fans however the number of foreign faces/voices and general demeanour/behaviour of many are more reminiscent of those visiting a tourist attraction. A very long sight from what I remember before or see at/with other clubs. I quite enjoyed chatting to a few Villa fans the other day. Personally, I cannot see anything worse happening to Palace. There is a deep bond shared between 'true' supporters, a shared ecstasy at the best of moments and equally heartbreak and anger at the worst of times. Those kindred spirits would soon be diluted by the 'tourists' were we to start operating with a £500million transfer budget each window. All at a cost to what must feel a hollow and unearned glory to any real fan. I'd sooner bemoan a loss to Walsall on the train home with strangers who instantly become family than watch Palace lift a Champions League with people who can't even spell 'Norwood' let alone point it out on the f*king map. Edited by Nicholas91 (30 Aug 2022 1.59pm) You did suggest they went somewhere " there may still be a few of the thousands (singular) who turned up to Maine Road occasionally still knocking about" After half a decade of living in United's shadow and endless relegations if you think City fans first thought on hearing of the takeover was "sht foreign fans" your deluding yourself. But don't take my word for it have a read of this thread on the day of their takeover, feel free to copy and paste all the fans saying they are unhappy and are off! [Link] Now, I don't know you and it may well be that if the same was to happen to Palace you would may wee walk away but make no mistake you would be walking on your own!

scary41

30 Aug 22 2.57pm

Originally posted by Nicholas91

Do you have any further questions or would you like me to explain further?

Edit: Want to expand upon this for the removal of doubt.

Edited by Nicholas91 (30 Aug 2022 1.59pm)

You did suggest they went somewhere " there may still be a few of the thousands (singular) who turned up to Maine Road occasionally still knocking about"

After half a decade of living in United's shadow and endless relegations if you think City fans first thought on hearing of the takeover was "sh*t foreign fans" your deluding yourself. But don't take my word for it have a read of this thread on the day of their takeover, feel free to copy and paste all the fans saying they are unhappy and are off!
[Link]
Now, I don't know you and it may well be that if the same was to happen to Palace you would may wee walk away but make no mistake you would be walking on your own!

Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 30 Aug 22 3.31pm
Originally posted by scary41 You did suggest they went somewhere " there may still be a few of the thousands (singular) who turned up to Maine Road occasionally still knocking about" After half a decade of living in United's shadow and endless relegations if you think City fans first thought on hearing of the takeover was "sh*t foreign fans" your deluding yourself. But don't take my word for it have a read of this thread on the day of their takeover, feel free to copy and paste all the fans saying they are unhappy and are off! [Link] Now, I don't know you and it may well be that if the same was to happen to Palace you would may wee walk away but make no mistake you would be walking on your own! You've centred around an argument you have conjured up yourself, it is not relevant or based upon any point I've made. I'm not saying you or any other City fan has walked away from the club, nor am I saying that I would walk away from Palace. The point is around the commercialisation and then subsequent attraction to the club of many who previously were not, nor ever would otherwise be City fans. My point around the demographic is also based on very lived and witnessed experiences, not an assertion or guess, I've seen it, with my own eyes, numerous times, before and after. My final point is that I would not like that to happen with my club. I enjoy the fraternity and genuine attraction the CPFC I share with other Palace fans far more than any bought success that would no doubt start attracting the hoards. I'm not saying you or any other City fan is in the wrong, there to be put down or scalded in any way, in fact quite the opposite. I would, subjectively, just feel slightly robbed of something were I in those shoes with Palace. The actual team itself is not representative of what your community/fanbase has built as a football club, it is representative of what Middle Eastern billionaires can afford to do in football should they choose. That for me, again just for me, not saying it's right or wrong, is just not the essence and entire point of football. Any City fan may well enjoy it and if they do fair play, I'm not begrudging them that. Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

Nicholas91

The Democratic Republic of Kent 30 Aug 22 3.31pm

Originally posted by scary41

You did suggest they went somewhere " there may still be a few of the thousands (singular) who turned up to Maine Road occasionally still knocking about"

You've centred around an argument you have conjured up yourself, it is not relevant or based upon any point I've made.

I'm not saying you or any other City fan has walked away from the club, nor am I saying that I would walk away from Palace. The point is around the commercialisation and then subsequent attraction to the club of many who previously were not, nor ever would otherwise be City fans.

My point around the demographic is also based on very lived and witnessed experiences, not an assertion or guess, I've seen it, with my own eyes, numerous times, before and after.

My final point is that I would not like that to happen with my club. I enjoy the fraternity and genuine attraction the CPFC I share with other Palace fans far more than any bought success that would no doubt start attracting the hoards. I'm not saying you or any other City fan is in the wrong, there to be put down or scalded in any way, in fact quite the opposite. I would, subjectively, just feel slightly robbed of something were I in those shoes with Palace. The actual team itself is not representative of what your community/fanbase has built as a football club, it is representative of what Middle Eastern billionaires can afford to do in football should they choose. That for me, again just for me, not saying it's right or wrong, is just not the essence and entire point of football. Any City fan may well enjoy it and if they do fair play, I'm not begrudging them that.

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 30 Aug 22 6.05pm
Originally posted by scary41 Where do you think the rest of the City fans went, to support United? Newcastle were taken over towards the end of last season, do you think all of their fans from before the takeover have walked away and been replaced by a new set literally overnight? Same mullets so not impossible. Red and Blue Army!

ASCPFC

Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 30 Aug 22 6.05pm

Originally posted by scary41

Same mullets so not impossible.

Red and Blue Army!

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