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Stuk Top half 13 Apr 16 4.37pm
Originally posted by Sportyteacher Have you ever considered for a start that much of the press media is operated by Tory press barons with a distinctive Conservative Party slant over the other political parties? It is a fact that voting behaviour is influenced firstly by family tradition and then by press influence. Secondly, The Conservatives are likewise non-existent within Scotland with the same number of seats as Labour. = 1 each Labour is also ahead in various polls whilst The Conservatives are ahead in others - it all depends what you CHOOSE to read and report upon Finally, let's just see how Labour fairs within forthcoming Mayoral & Council Elections. (Oh, I should add that Labour is ahead in Mayoral Poll) Who just reads press media nowadays? People are less influence by media barons than in living memory. The tories have been non-existent in Scotland for two decades, Labour have gone from dominant to non-existent overnight - and they heavily relied on Scotland to prop them up. Polls are fairly pointless, until the general election. The locals and mayoral elections don't ever mean much in the grand scheme of it. Optimistic as ever

Stuk

Top half 13 Apr 16 4.37pm

Originally posted by Sportyteacher

Have you ever considered for a start that much of the press media is operated by Tory press barons with a distinctive Conservative Party slant over the other political parties? It is a fact that voting behaviour is influenced firstly by family tradition and then by press influence.

Secondly, The Conservatives are likewise non-existent within Scotland with the same number of seats as Labour. = 1 each

Labour is also ahead in various polls whilst The Conservatives are ahead in others - it all depends what you CHOOSE to read and report upon

Finally, let's just see how Labour fairs within forthcoming Mayoral & Council Elections. (Oh, I should add that Labour is ahead in Mayoral Poll)

Who just reads press media nowadays? People are less influence by media barons than in living memory.

The tories have been non-existent in Scotland for two decades, Labour have gone from dominant to non-existent overnight - and they heavily relied on Scotland to prop them up.

Polls are fairly pointless, until the general election.

The locals and mayoral elections don't ever mean much in the grand scheme of it.

Optimistic as ever

Hoof Hearted 13 Apr 16 5.41pm
Originally posted by Sportyteacher Have you ever considered for a start that much of the press media is operated by Tory press barons with a distinctive Conservative Party slant over the other political parties? It is a fact that voting behaviour is influenced firstly by family tradition and then by press influence. Secondly, The Conservatives are likewise non-existent within Scotland with the same number of seats as Labour. = 1 each Labour is also ahead in various polls whilst The Conservatives are ahead in others - it all depends what you CHOOSE to read and report upon Finally, let's just see how Labour fairs within forthcoming Mayoral & Council Elections. (Oh, I should add that Labour is ahead in Mayoral Poll) The point I was making and it has gone right over your head is that despite all the Tory gaffes Labour are not gaining much ground. At this stage they should be miles ahead. Scotland isn't the Tory heartland... the fact that it is 1-1 on MP's is to Labour's disgrace! I'm waiting for the May elections with baited breath as it happens..... I doubt that you will make any gains in Scotland at all and south of the border you might find a UKIP resurgence again. I doubt that the results will show much support for Labour at all, but I'm open minded as it is early on in the life cycle of this government and history shows a swing to the opposition due to low turnouts and protest voting.

Hoof Hearted 13 Apr 16 5.41pm

Originally posted by Sportyteacher

Secondly, The Conservatives are likewise non-existent within Scotland with the same number of seats as Labour. = 1 each

Labour is also ahead in various polls whilst The Conservatives are ahead in others - it all depends what you CHOOSE to read and report upon

Finally, let's just see how Labour fairs within forthcoming Mayoral & Council Elections. (Oh, I should add that Labour is ahead in Mayoral Poll)

The point I was making and it has gone right over your head is that despite all the Tory gaffes Labour are not gaining much ground. At this stage they should be miles ahead.

Scotland isn't the Tory heartland... the fact that it is 1-1 on MP's is to Labour's disgrace!

I'm waiting for the May elections with baited breath as it happens..... I doubt that you will make any gains in Scotland at all and south of the border you might find a UKIP resurgence again.

I doubt that the results will show much support for Labour at all, but I'm open minded as it is early on in the life cycle of this government and history shows a swing to the opposition due to low turnouts and protest voting.

matt_himself Matataland 27 Apr 16 6.28pm
Labour are in third place in Scottish polls (reported in a 'neo liberal' periodical): [Link] Oh dear Jezza! Edited by matt_himself (27 Apr 2016 6.29pm) "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

matt_himself

Matataland 27 Apr 16 6.28pm

Labour are in third place in Scottish polls (reported in a 'neo liberal' periodical):

[Link]

Oh dear Jezza!

Edited by matt_himself (27 Apr 2016 6.29pm)

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

fed up eagle Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 27 Apr 16 8.44pm
And here we are almost a year on and Corbyn is well and truley comfortable in the Labour leadership seat, and his impact is zero, apart from an anti semtism row that has engulfed the fully discredited Labour party. And they have the bollox to call other people racist when they question mass and uncontrolled immigration and Islamic extremism.

fed up eagle

Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 27 Apr 16 8.44pm

And here we are almost a year on and Corbyn is well and truley comfortable in the Labour leadership seat, and his impact is zero, apart from an anti semtism row that has engulfed the fully discredited Labour party. And they have the bollox to call other people racist when they question mass and uncontrolled immigration and Islamic extremism.

Hoof Hearted 28 Apr 16 12.19pm
Originally posted by matt_himself Labour are in third place in Scottish polls (reported in a 'neo liberal' periodical): [Link] Oh dear Jezza! Edited by matt_himself (27 Apr 2016 6.29pm) Hahaha.... third behind the Tories.... LOL If you can't convince the Scots to vote for you, ahead of the Tories, you really are up sh1t creek!

Hoof Hearted 28 Apr 16 12.19pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

Labour are in third place in Scottish polls (reported in a 'neo liberal' periodical):

[Link]

Oh dear Jezza!

Edited by matt_himself (27 Apr 2016 6.29pm)

Hahaha.... third behind the Tories.... LOL

If you can't convince the Scots to vote for you, ahead of the Tories, you really are up sh1t creek!

Hoof Hearted 02 May 16 10.31am
[Link] "Labour set for worst council defeat in opposition for 34 years".

Hoof Hearted 02 May 16 10.31am

[Link]

"Labour set for worst council defeat in opposition for 34 years".

leifandersonshair Newport 02 May 16 8.03pm
Originally posted by Hoof Hearted [Link] "Labour set for worst council defeat in opposition for 34 years". No real surprise- people are fed up of mainstream politics and political parties, hence the SNP, Green and UKIP surge at the last general election. I reckon it will be the lesser parties who make the gains again- Labour and Tories will both lose plenty of seats, probably to Greens, UKIP, SNP et al. I wonder whether we might see some moderate gains for the Lib Dems in these local elections- after their virtual extermination nationally, will they now once again be seen as the party of outsiders, worth a protest vote?

leifandersonshair

Newport 02 May 16 8.03pm

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

[Link]

"Labour set for worst council defeat in opposition for 34 years".

No real surprise- people are fed up of mainstream politics and political parties, hence the SNP, Green and UKIP surge at the last general election.

I reckon it will be the lesser parties who make the gains again- Labour and Tories will both lose plenty of seats, probably to Greens, UKIP, SNP et al.

I wonder whether we might see some moderate gains for the Lib Dems in these local elections- after their virtual extermination nationally, will they now once again be seen as the party of outsiders, worth a protest vote?

Hoof Hearted 03 May 16 11.10am
Originally posted by leifandersonshair No real surprise- people are fed up of mainstream politics and political parties, hence the SNP, Green and UKIP surge at the last general election. I reckon it will be the lesser parties who make the gains again- Labour and Tories will both lose plenty of seats, probably to Greens, UKIP, SNP et al. I wonder whether we might see some moderate gains for the Lib Dems in these local elections- after their virtual extermination nationally, will they now once again be seen as the party of outsiders, worth a protest vote? I agree Leif.... except that SNP are a big player in Scotland now. I can see UKIP and Greens picking up seats, but not control of councils. They may make enough gains for councils to be "hung", ie no overall control. Still think it's too soon for the LibDems as people haven't forgotten their broken promises and Clegg's sucking up to anyone for a bit of power himself. The new leader is uninspiring too... don't even know his name?

Hoof Hearted 03 May 16 11.10am

Originally posted by leifandersonshair

No real surprise- people are fed up of mainstream politics and political parties, hence the SNP, Green and UKIP surge at the last general election.

I reckon it will be the lesser parties who make the gains again- Labour and Tories will both lose plenty of seats, probably to Greens, UKIP, SNP et al.

I agree Leif.... except that SNP are a big player in Scotland now.

I can see UKIP and Greens picking up seats, but not control of councils. They may make enough gains for councils to be "hung", ie no overall control.

Still think it's too soon for the LibDems as people haven't forgotten their broken promises and Clegg's sucking up to anyone for a bit of power himself. The new leader is uninspiring too... don't even know his name?

johnfirewall 03 May 16 11.31am
Originally posted by matt_himself Oh dear Jezza: [Link] Shall we have a protest outside his office? However instead of it comprising of a bunch of 'virtue signallers' being self righteous, we should take M&S hampers, wear sports jackets and bring a few nice bottles of Burgundy. A posh protest would be hilarious. Where is it?

johnfirewall

03 May 16 11.31am

Originally posted by matt_himself

Oh dear Jezza:

[Link]

Shall we have a protest outside his office? However instead of it comprising of a bunch of 'virtue signallers' being self righteous, we should take M&S hampers, wear sports jackets and bring a few nice bottles of Burgundy.

A posh protest would be hilarious. Where is it?

leifandersonshair Newport 03 May 16 12.42pm
Originally posted by Hoof Hearted I agree Leif.... except that SNP are a big player in Scotland now. I can see UKIP and Greens picking up seats, but not control of councils. They may make enough gains for councils to be "hung", ie no overall control. Still think it's too soon for the LibDems as people haven't forgotten their broken promises and Clegg's sucking up to anyone for a bit of power himself. The new leader is uninspiring too... don't even know his name? I think you're probably right- I don't think the minor parties will gain enough seats to gain councils, but may well gain enough to see some councils slipping to NOC. The Lib Dems have stayed under the radar (probably sensibly...)- hard to see how they will recover. Probably a bit too early for them- their strength under Charles Kennedy was a clever bit of positioning- being seen as further left than New Labour, but still central enough to pick up moderate Tory voters too. Now, Greens, SNP and Labour have firmly staked out the left, and the current Tory government is (relatively) hard right, as are UKIP. If the Lib Dems are clever, they'll firmly stake out a plot in the centre ground. They might in fact be doing this but they are seen as such an irrelevance you wouldn't hear about it!

leifandersonshair

Newport 03 May 16 12.42pm

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

I agree Leif.... except that SNP are a big player in Scotland now.

I can see UKIP and Greens picking up seats, but not control of councils. They may make enough gains for councils to be "hung", ie no overall control.

I think you're probably right- I don't think the minor parties will gain enough seats to gain councils, but may well gain enough to see some councils slipping to NOC.

The Lib Dems have stayed under the radar (probably sensibly...)- hard to see how they will recover. Probably a bit too early for them- their strength under Charles Kennedy was a clever bit of positioning- being seen as further left than New Labour, but still central enough to pick up moderate Tory voters too. Now, Greens, SNP and Labour have firmly staked out the left, and the current Tory government is (relatively) hard right, as are UKIP.

If the Lib Dems are clever, they'll firmly stake out a plot in the centre ground. They might in fact be doing this but they are seen as such an irrelevance you wouldn't hear about it!

Stuk Top half 03 May 16 3.17pm
Originally posted by Hoof Hearted [Link] "Labour set for worst council defeat in opposition for 34 years". Corbyn reckons they won't lose a seat! [Link] Optimistic as ever

Stuk

Top half 03 May 16 3.17pm

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

[Link]

"Labour set for worst council defeat in opposition for 34 years".

Corbyn reckons they won't lose a seat!

[Link]

Optimistic as ever

Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 03 May 16 3.41pm
I don't think they'll get too many voted in Golders Green Edited by Y Ddraig Goch (03 May 2016 3.41pm) the dignified don't even enter in the game

Y Ddraig Goch

In The Crowd 03 May 16 3.41pm

I don't think they'll get too many voted in Golders Green

Edited by Y Ddraig Goch (03 May 2016 3.41pm)

the dignified don't even enter in the game

Stuk Top half 03 May 16 4.10pm
Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch I don't think they'll get too many voted in Golders Green Edited by Y Ddraig Goch (03 May 2016 3.41pm) I'm hearing they'll not do so well down your end of the world either? Optimistic as ever

Stuk

Top half 03 May 16 4.10pm

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

I don't think they'll get too many voted in Golders Green

Edited by Y Ddraig Goch (03 May 2016 3.41pm)

I'm hearing they'll not do so well down your end of the world either?

Optimistic as ever

dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 03 May 16 4.29pm
A picture paints a thousand words. In this case one word, that word being cnut. Attachment: Corbyn.jpg (91.08Kb) "It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

dannyh

wherever I lay my hat....... 03 May 16 4.29pm

A picture paints a thousand words. In this case one word, that word being cnut.

Attachment: Corbyn.jpg (91.08Kb)

"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

Stuk Top half 03 May 16 4.31pm
Originally posted by dannyh A picture paints a thousand words. In this case one word, that word being cnut. Is that Livingstone and Gerry "I can say ******" Adams? Optimistic as ever

Stuk

Top half 03 May 16 4.31pm

Originally posted by dannyh

A picture paints a thousand words. In this case one word, that word being cnut.

Is that Livingstone and Gerry "I can say ******" Adams?

Optimistic as ever

Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 03 May 16 4.55pm
Originally posted by Stuk I'm hearing they'll not do so well down your end of the world either? Wales? Apparently not and if you're losing votes in South & NE Wales, historically dominated by Labour you have real problems. It would appear they are losing votes to UKIP and Plaid if the polls are to be believed. the dignified don't even enter in the game

Y Ddraig Goch

In The Crowd 03 May 16 4.55pm

Originally posted by Stuk

I'm hearing they'll not do so well down your end of the world either?

Wales? Apparently not and if you're losing votes in South & NE Wales, historically dominated by Labour you have real problems. It would appear they are losing votes to UKIP and Plaid if the polls are to be believed.

the dignified don't even enter in the game

dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 04 May 16 9.24am
Originally posted by Stuk Is that Livingstone and Gerry "I can say ****" Adams? The very same, photo taken in the eighties at the height of the mainland bombing campaign by the IRA, and here we have Corbyn skipping down the street with it's leader. Blokes an idealistic lefty t*t. "It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

dannyh

wherever I lay my hat....... 04 May 16 9.24am

Originally posted by Stuk

Is that Livingstone and Gerry "I can say ******" Adams?

The very same, photo taken in the eighties at the height of the mainland bombing campaign by the IRA, and here we have Corbyn skipping down the street with it's leader.

Blokes an idealistic lefty t***t.

"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

Stuk Top half 04 May 16 1.44pm
Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch Wales? Apparently not and if you're losing votes in South & NE Wales, historically dominated by Labour you have real problems. It would appear they are losing votes to UKIP and Plaid if the polls are to be believed. Yeah. Not that you're necessarily down that end of the world of course. Any chance of them losing control altogether? Optimistic as ever

Stuk

Top half 04 May 16 1.44pm

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

Yeah. Not that you're necessarily down that end of the world of course. Any chance of them losing control altogether?

Optimistic as ever

Stuk Top half 04 May 16 1.44pm
Originally posted by dannyh The very same, photo taken in the eighties at the height of the mainland bombing campaign by the IRA, and here we have Corbyn skipping down the street with it's leader. Blokes an idealistic lefty t*t. A trio of c*s. Optimistic as ever

Stuk

Top half 04 May 16 1.44pm

Originally posted by dannyh

The very same, photo taken in the eighties at the height of the mainland bombing campaign by the IRA, and here we have Corbyn skipping down the street with it's leader.

Blokes an idealistic lefty t***t.

A trio of c***s.

Optimistic as ever

matt_himself Matataland 04 May 16 3.49pm
[Link] "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

matt_himself

Matataland 04 May 16 3.49pm

[Link]

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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