I certainly agree that it should be. However if you use the logic of the Brexiters, control of our own borders, then it would be foolish to ignore the fact that depending who is in power, it could have potential consequences in Ireland.

This with bells on it!

The shame I feel here when I ask people if they have ever planned to study or live in the UK and they tell me they'd like to but feel its a waste of time as getting a visa is too stressful. Some of them often tell me that Australia and Canada have much simpler systems of immigration.

This.

Two sets of self interested, insincere, lying and generally odious individuals or groups, misleading, extrapolating and manipulating to serve their own ends and for all they are worth.

Soundbite politicking at its absolute worst.

For me a simple 'in / out' choice is a flawed basis to vote on something so complex anyway.

Edited by The Sash (10 Jun 2016 2.53pm)

As far as the rules go, it's a website not a democracy - Hambo 3/6/2014

The entire thing is just irritating me now, I can't wait for it all to be over.

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold...

In other news the French are on strike.
Really they are bound to say things like this,if we vote out it will be the start of the house of cards crumbling.
And they know it.

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

And they / you know it. Hmm where have I heard that before?

Also, you are mixing metaphors. Do cards crumble or tumble? Bring the whole edifice crumbling down would be suitable.

But you're probably right, possibly a bit of gamesmanship from our friend from the fatherland.

Obvious blackmail attempt from a country begging us to stay on their magazine covers.

Influential maybe, but without sway over the EU. The claim is that we can't have the same arrangement as Switzerland, that we're either in our out, but how can he make the comparison without explaining why we'd be subjected to different conditions?

It's been in the media for weeks.

The chance of any finance jobs being lost to France should we vote out, as was another threat, would be close to zero.

The labour reforms are actually very sensible, and needed. The workers rights you speak of are frankly ridiculous, which is why unemployment remains so high and why they have few entrepreneurs.

The biggest joke of all is Jerome Kerviel who lost £3.8bn and nearly brought down SocGen, has won a case for unfair dismissal. They're bonkers, and the French agree apart from the unions/civil servants. Even some civil servants agree it is a grossly unfair system and a failed one.

Edited by Stuk (10 Jun 2016 5.08pm)

Optimistic as ever

And do a more worthwhile job.

Let me rephrase it then.

10,000 EU workers receive a higher salary than the British Prime Minister (regardless of which party he/she is from).