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 Teddy Eagle  08 Jan 20 10.52am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I was concentrating on the present situation and not the past. He was though always a buffoon. A well educated one for sure but still a buffoon. Amusing on "Have I got news for you" but of concern when given real power. I personally prefer serious politicians to become our PM and not attention seekers. How do I compare? I didn't go to Eton! I grew up on a council estate, "failed" the 11+ and went to a secondary modern school leaving at 16. Nevertheless, I had a successful career which included becoming the MD of 2 businesses, one of which is a brand you will see in every supermarket. I then owned 2 businesses of my own, giving employment to many people. Edited by Wisbech Eagle (08 Jan 2020 10.50am) But...he’s a politician. They all know more than the rest of us, don’t they? So you have been assuring everyone for months anyway.
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Wisbech Eagle  Truro Cornwall 08 Jan 20 10.56am |
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Originally posted by becky
If they had listened to those voices in the first place, instead of trying to thwart their expressed wish every step of the way, there would be no need for a 'healing process' now. If we had left the decision in the hands of the people we elect to take these decisions then the division would not have needed healing. Farage and UKIP would have continued to make some noise outside of Parliament but got nowhere. The division was caused by Cameron caving in to the perception that the Tory Party was under threat. The blame lies squarely with the Tories. What subsequently happened was an inevitable consequence.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 08 Jan 20 11.00am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
But...he’s a politician. They all know more than the rest of us, don’t they? So you have been assuring everyone for months anyway. Individually, on their own, of course not. Collectively, and with the benefit of access to expert advice and time to consider and debate, yes they do know more. Individually they are as varied as any bunch. Johnson is just one of the buffoons among several there.
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| Teddy Eagle 08 Jan 20 11.02am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Individually, on their own, of course not. Collectively, and with the benefit of access to expert advice and time to consider and debate, yes they do know more. Individually they are as varied as any bunch. Johnson is just one of the buffoons among several there. Better change your dancing shoes. That pin head is getting smaller.
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| Stirlingsays 08 Jan 20 11.04am |
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But Cameron knows far more than you! Remember he's an elite who spends his entire time on these issues and hence you and we must trust his judgement. I seem to remember someone telling me something like this. Cameron was always an EU skeptic with a small 's'....like May. He wasn't a leaver but he regarded the EU as a mixed bag. So to criticise him for his actual real opinions seems a bit unfair. It wasn't his job to be an EU cheerleader when he had issues. He may have been carrying favour with the harder side of his party but he was also expressing his actual views. The real blame for the UK leaving the EU lies squarely with the EU's push for control and federalism.....with all that comes from it.
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| Stirlingsays 08 Jan 20 11.13am |
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I grew up on a council estate in Stockwell, Brixton. I didn't betray the people I came from and tell them that they must change for some reason and that s***e is gold. Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Jan 2020 11.13am)
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Slimey Toad  Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 08 Jan 20 11.26am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Intrigued about why he’s a buffoon? He’s achieved more than anyone on here and more than most would even conceive of attempting. I'm honestly not dismissing his achievements nor the possibility that he has the fiery qualities to achieve them, but surely bothe left and right here can recognize the words 'privilege', 'contacts', 'inherited money', 'Eton' etc. etc.?
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 08 Jan 20 11.27am |
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Originally posted by Jimenez
I suggest you post this on the BBS & then watch them self combust!! isn't it hilarious that Harriet Harman, David Lammy and Lilly Allen seem to support Palace ?
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| Teddy Eagle 08 Jan 20 11.35am |
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Originally posted by Slimey Toad
I'm honestly not dismissing his achievements nor the possibility that he has the fiery qualities to achieve them, but surely bothe left and right here can recognize the words 'privilege', 'contacts', 'inherited money', 'Eton' etc. etc.? No doubt. All I’m saying is that to dismiss him as a buffoon is underestimating him and to claim he’s never achieved anything is just wrong.
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| Teddy Eagle 08 Jan 20 11.36am |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
isn't it hilarious that Harriet Harman, David Lammy and Lilly Allen seem to support Palace ? Lammy claims to be Tottenham supporter - despite getting a question about them wrong during his spectacular Mastermind appearance.
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| Midlands Eagle 08 Jan 20 11.41am |
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Originally posted by Slimey Toad
I'm honestly not dismissing his achievements nor the possibility that he has the fiery qualities to achieve them, but surely bothe left and right here can recognize the words 'privilege', 'contacts', 'inherited money', 'Eton' etc. etc.? Apart from the fact that this has very little to do with the BBC I'm not sure that 'privilege', 'contacts', 'inherited money', 'Eton' have anything to do with his success. His victory in the London Mayoral elections had nothing to do with any of the above and likewise his winning of the Conservative party leadership and subsequent General Election was down to his sheer force of personality and not his schooling at Eton or inherited money
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 08 Jan 20 11.50am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Better change your dancing shoes. That pin head is getting smaller. Dancing has never been one of my strong points so I avoid it whenever I can. Including right now. That I believe in the collective wisdom of Parliament is a matter of record. That Johnson is just one of 650 MPs who also happens to be PM because he was chosen by a small bunch of unrepresentative Tory Party activists, some of whom were infiltrators with other objectives, doesn't infuse him with any special qualities. That you think he has achieved things is an opinion. I think he has been lucky and ridden fortunate waves but underneath that he is a well educated buffoon. That's also an opinion. So our opinions differ.
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