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Eaglecoops CR3 13 Mar 21 9.39am
Interesting that they have just announced that taking of the knee will be reassessed at the end of this season. Perhaps because there will be crowds back in the ground? The rhetoric has also changed around what they were actually standing (kneeling) for. Somehow the NHS has become part of the equation but hey everyone else seems to make crap up during the pandemic so why should football be any different. [Link]

Eaglecoops

CR3 13 Mar 21 9.39am

Interesting that they have just announced that taking of the knee will be reassessed at the end of this season. Perhaps because there will be crowds back in the ground?

The rhetoric has also changed around what they were actually standing (kneeling) for. Somehow the NHS has become part of the equation but hey everyone else seems to make crap up during the pandemic so why should football be any different.

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Hrolf The Ganger 13 Mar 21 10.56am
Originally posted by Eaglecoops Interesting that they have just announced that taking of the knee will be reassessed at the end of this season. Perhaps because there will be crowds back in the ground? The rhetoric has also changed around what they were actually standing (kneeling) for. Somehow the NHS has become part of the equation but hey everyone else seems to make crap up during the pandemic so why should football be any different. [Link] Stand by for an embarrassing climb down disguised with spin. Oh, sometimes life is just too predictable.

Hrolf The Ganger

13 Mar 21 10.56am

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

Interesting that they have just announced that taking of the knee will be reassessed at the end of this season. Perhaps because there will be crowds back in the ground?

[Link]

Stand by for an embarrassing climb down disguised with spin.

Oh, sometimes life is just too predictable.

Palace Old Geezer Midhurst 13 Mar 21 11.11am
Assuming he starts this afternoon as expected, it will be interesting to see if Wilf sticks to his refusal to kneel and stands tall instead. If he does stand, will his team-mates support him? There will be a flurry of feathers in the dovecote whatever happens I suspect. Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.

Palace Old Geezer

Midhurst 13 Mar 21 11.11am

Assuming he starts this afternoon as expected, it will be interesting to see if Wilf sticks to his refusal to kneel and stands tall instead. If he does stand, will his team-mates support him?

There will be a flurry of feathers in the dovecote whatever happens I suspect.

Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.

Eaglecoops CR3 13 Mar 21 11.27am
Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer Assuming he starts this afternoon as expected, it will be interesting to see if Wilf sticks to his refusal to kneel and stands tall instead. If he does stand, will his team-mates support him? There will be a flurry of feathers in the dovecote whatever happens I suspect. Oh yes, it will be my first deliberate watch of the knee bend that’s for sure. Still it will give the commentators something to talk about given the game probably won’t be up to much.

Eaglecoops

CR3 13 Mar 21 11.27am

Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

Assuming he starts this afternoon as expected, it will be interesting to see if Wilf sticks to his refusal to kneel and stands tall instead. If he does stand, will his team-mates support him?

There will be a flurry of feathers in the dovecote whatever happens I suspect.

Oh yes, it will be my first deliberate watch of the knee bend that’s for sure. Still it will give the commentators something to talk about given the game probably won’t be up to much.

ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 13 Mar 21 12.14pm
Originally posted by Eaglecoops Oh yes, it will be my first deliberate watch of the knee bend that’s for sure. Still it will give the commentators something to talk about given the game probably won’t be up to much. Last week I was annoyed that I saw the knee thing, I just want to watch football, not Malcolm X. I'm going to have to wait a good few minutes before watching matches - and hope we don't concede in that time. At least, if we do I won't have seen it. I'm presuming we haven't scored in the first few minutes ourselves often. Or am I having a memory problem? Red and Blue Army!

ASCPFC

Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 13 Mar 21 12.14pm

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

Oh yes, it will be my first deliberate watch of the knee bend that’s for sure. Still it will give the commentators something to talk about given the game probably won’t be up to much.

Last week I was annoyed that I saw the knee thing, I just want to watch football, not Malcolm X. I'm going to have to wait a good few minutes before watching matches - and hope we don't concede in that time. At least, if we do I won't have seen it. I'm presuming we haven't scored in the first few minutes ourselves often. Or am I having a memory problem?

Red and Blue Army!

corkery Cork City 13 Mar 21 7.37pm
Originally posted by Eaglecoops Interesting that they have just announced that taking of the knee will be reassessed at the end of this season. Perhaps because there will be crowds back in the ground? The rhetoric has also changed around what they were actually standing (kneeling) for. Somehow the NHS has become part of the equation but hey everyone else seems to make crap up during the pandemic so why should football be any different. [Link] They have realised how stupid it's going to look in Qatar. We'll never die

corkery

Cork City 13 Mar 21 7.37pm

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

Interesting that they have just announced that taking of the knee will be reassessed at the end of this season. Perhaps because there will be crowds back in the ground?

[Link]

They have realised how stupid it's going to look in Qatar.

We'll never die

becky over the moon 13 Mar 21 10.26pm
Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer Assuming he starts this afternoon as expected, it will be interesting to see if Wilf sticks to his refusal to kneel and stands tall instead. If he does stand, will his team-mates support him? There will be a flurry of feathers in the dovecote whatever happens I suspect. He did indeed remain standing -it made the BBC News tonight A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

becky

over the moon 13 Mar 21 10.26pm

Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

Assuming he starts this afternoon as expected, it will be interesting to see if Wilf sticks to his refusal to kneel and stands tall instead. If he does stand, will his team-mates support him?

There will be a flurry of feathers in the dovecote whatever happens I suspect.

He did indeed remain standing -it made the BBC News tonight

A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

Palace Old Geezer Midhurst 15 Mar 21 10.12am
Yes, I was very pleased he stuck to his guns - also won us some back door publicity. Would definitely like to see others follow his lead. Taking the knee has outlived it's purpose. Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.

Palace Old Geezer

Midhurst 15 Mar 21 10.12am

Yes, I was very pleased he stuck to his guns - also won us some back door publicity.

Would definitely like to see others follow his lead. Taking the knee has outlived it's purpose.

Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.

Badger11 Beckenham 30 Mar 21 8.57am
Interesting media coverage of the George Floyd murder trial. Many outlets are not even attempting to report impartially the assumption being that unless the officer is convicted it will be a miscarriage of justice. The other odd thing about the reporting is the claim that this trial will decide what happens in policing across America e.g. will black people get justice in the courts. I say odd because many times I have pointed out that the US justice system is local and not national. It's like saying tonight's parish council meeting will change Parliament, no it wont. Whatever the decision it will be reached under state law and each state has it's own laws for better or worse and they are not the same. This maybe a high profile case but just like the OJ and Rodney King trials I don't expect much to change unless local people demand that local politicians change their policies on local policing. Edited by Badger11 (30 Mar 2021 9.00am) One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 30 Mar 21 8.57am

Interesting media coverage of the George Floyd murder trial. Many outlets are not even attempting to report impartially the assumption being that unless the officer is convicted it will be a miscarriage of justice.

The other odd thing about the reporting is the claim that this trial will decide what happens in policing across America e.g. will black people get justice in the courts.

I say odd because many times I have pointed out that the US justice system is local and not national. It's like saying tonight's parish council meeting will change Parliament, no it wont.

Whatever the decision it will be reached under state law and each state has it's own laws for better or worse and they are not the same.

This maybe a high profile case but just like the OJ and Rodney King trials I don't expect much to change unless local people demand that local politicians change their policies on local policing.

Edited by Badger11 (30 Mar 2021 9.00am)

One more point

The Dolphin 30 Mar 21 11.10am
It will be a circus whatever happens. Was the Officer wrong - probably - but who wants to deal with an out of control, drug crazed individual who has just held a knife to a pregnant woman's belly to get drugs or money for drugs.

The Dolphin

30 Mar 21 11.10am

It will be a circus whatever happens.
Was the Officer wrong - probably - but who wants to deal with an out of control, drug crazed individual who has just held a knife to a pregnant woman's belly to get drugs or money for drugs.

ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 30 Mar 21 11.16am
Originally posted by Badger11 Interesting media coverage of the George Floyd murder trial. Many outlets are not even attempting to report impartially the assumption being that unless the officer is convicted it will be a miscarriage of justice. The other odd thing about the reporting is the claim that this trial will decide what happens in policing across America e.g. will black people get justice in the courts. I say odd because many times I have pointed out that the US justice system is local and not national. It's like saying tonight's parish council meeting will change Parliament, no it wont. Whatever the decision it will be reached under state law and each state has it's own laws for better or worse and they are not the same. This maybe a high profile case but just like the OJ and Rodney King trials I don't expect much to change unless local people demand that local politicians change their policies on local policing. Edited by Badger11 (30 Mar 2021 9.00am) It's not a fair trial at all. Like they had to let OJ off, they have to convict this guy. Or very serious race riots, that's the choice. Red and Blue Army!

ASCPFC

Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 30 Mar 21 11.16am

Originally posted by Badger11

The other odd thing about the reporting is the claim that this trial will decide what happens in policing across America e.g. will black people get justice in the courts.

I say odd because many times I have pointed out that the US justice system is local and not national. It's like saying tonight's parish council meeting will change Parliament, no it wont.

Whatever the decision it will be reached under state law and each state has it's own laws for better or worse and they are not the same.

This maybe a high profile case but just like the OJ and Rodney King trials I don't expect much to change unless local people demand that local politicians change their policies on local policing.

Edited by Badger11 (30 Mar 2021 9.00am)

It's not a fair trial at all. Like they had to let OJ off, they have to convict this guy. Or very serious race riots, that's the choice.

Red and Blue Army!

The Dolphin 30 Mar 21 11.42am
I agree. You would think that Floyd was a Saint the way he is now being portrayed. However - I cannot see justification for the way he was restrained although we only see what we see - I wasn't there so......................

The Dolphin

30 Mar 21 11.42am

I agree.
You would think that Floyd was a Saint the way he is now being portrayed.
However - I cannot see justification for the way he was restrained although we only see what we see - I wasn't there so......................

Stirlingsays 30 Mar 21 1.22pm
I can't see how this could be a fair trial. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

30 Mar 21 1.22pm

I can't see how this could be a fair trial.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Badger11 Beckenham 30 Mar 21 1.26pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I can't see how this could be a fair trial. Certainly not in the media or should I say "the court of public opinion" which seems to be the only court that protestors care about. Edited by Badger11 (30 Mar 2021 1.27pm) One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 30 Mar 21 1.26pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I can't see how this could be a fair trial.

Certainly not in the media or should I say "the court of public opinion" which seems to be the only court that protestors care about.

Edited by Badger11 (30 Mar 2021 1.27pm)

One more point

Stirlingsays 30 Mar 21 1.35pm
Originally posted by Badger11 Certainly not in the media or should I say "the court of public opinion" which seems to be the only court that protestors care about. Edited by Badger11 (30 Mar 2021 1.27pm) Yep, this case will be OJ like in how it is received. Whatever the verdict it will crystalise a lot of minds. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

30 Mar 21 1.35pm

Originally posted by Badger11

Certainly not in the media or should I say "the court of public opinion" which seems to be the only court that protestors care about.

Edited by Badger11 (30 Mar 2021 1.27pm)

Yep, this case will be OJ like in how it is received.

Whatever the verdict it will crystalise a lot of minds.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Badger11 Beckenham 31 Mar 21 7.54am
Racist Britain, or maybe not. [Link] I am not surprised that this inquiry decided that Britain is not institutionally racist. It did find there is racism e.g. social media and that there is deprivation. As many of us have argued though the opportunities are there if somebody is prepared to work hard and get the qualifications they will succeed. For me the real issue is not black people being denied jobs or promotion but the educational failure of black boys especially. This is the issue that needs to be tackled not virtue signally taking a knee. The celebs need to convince black boys that "school is cool". Edited by Badger11 (31 Mar 2021 7.55am) One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 31 Mar 21 7.54am

Racist Britain, or maybe not.

[Link]

I am not surprised that this inquiry decided that Britain is not institutionally racist. It did find there is racism e.g. social media and that there is deprivation.

As many of us have argued though the opportunities are there if somebody is prepared to work hard and get the qualifications they will succeed.

For me the real issue is not black people being denied jobs or promotion but the educational failure of black boys especially. This is the issue that needs to be tackled not virtue signally taking a knee.

The celebs need to convince black boys that "school is cool".

Edited by Badger11 (31 Mar 2021 7.55am)

One more point

Spiderman Horsham 31 Mar 21 7.58am
Originally posted by Badger11 Racist Britain, or maybe not. [Link] I am not surprised that this inquiry decided that Britain is not institutionally racist. It did find there is racism e.g. social media and that there is deprivation. As many of us have argued though the opportunities are there if somebody is prepared to work hard and get the qualifications they will succeed. For me the real issue is not black people being denied jobs or promotion but the educational failure of black boys especially. This is the issue that needs to be tackled not virtue signally taking a knee. The celebs need to convince black boys that "school is cool". Edited by Badger11 (31 Mar 2021 7.55am) Before the “it’s the Mail” comments start [Link]

Spiderman

Horsham 31 Mar 21 7.58am

Originally posted by Badger11

Racist Britain, or maybe not.

[Link]

I am not surprised that this inquiry decided that Britain is not institutionally racist. It did find there is racism e.g. social media and that there is deprivation.

As many of us have argued though the opportunities are there if somebody is prepared to work hard and get the qualifications they will succeed.

The celebs need to convince black boys that "school is cool".

Edited by Badger11 (31 Mar 2021 7.55am)

Before the “it’s the Mail” comments start

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 31 Mar 21 9.14am
When you hear the recent KFC advert on the radio and that girl (young woman) talk on the advert, you can understand a bit more about why some will never get a chance. The way she says ‘’Big deal. Online. Apply.’’ Dear me. I bet girls practice and want to copy this, just like the rap culture which gets carried into adulthood long term. Being accepted in your teenage social circle does not mean accepted professionally in adulthood, but it means everything to be in a group as a teenager. But it’s here to stay and stay separated from professional working environments, except when required to advertise it or make some music or urban tv. COYP

Rudi Hedman

Caterham 31 Mar 21 9.14am

When you hear the recent KFC advert on the radio and that girl (young woman) talk on the advert, you can understand a bit more about why some will never get a chance. The way she says ‘’Big deal. Online. Apply.’’ Dear me.

I bet girls practice and want to copy this, just like the rap culture which gets carried into adulthood long term. Being accepted in your teenage social circle does not mean accepted professionally in adulthood, but it means everything to be in a group as a teenager. But it’s here to stay and stay separated from professional working environments, except when required to advertise it or make some music or urban tv.

COYP

Teddy Eagle 31 Mar 21 9.18am
Originally posted by Badger11 Racist Britain, or maybe not. [Link] I am not surprised that this inquiry decided that Britain is not institutionally racist. It did find there is racism e.g. social media and that there is deprivation. As many of us have argued though the opportunities are there if somebody is prepared to work hard and get the qualifications they will succeed. For me the real issue is not black people being denied jobs or promotion but the educational failure of black boys especially. This is the issue that needs to be tackled not virtue signally taking a knee. The celebs need to convince black boys that "school is cool". Edited by Badger11 (31 Mar 2021 7.55am) To be fair no one ever convinced me either. I hated school and couldn’t wait to get out. One difference in the Seventies was that further education was relatively uncommon so we weren’t in competition for jobs with people with degrees in Leisure Studies or Sports Management.

Teddy Eagle

31 Mar 21 9.18am

Originally posted by Badger11

Racist Britain, or maybe not.

[Link]

I am not surprised that this inquiry decided that Britain is not institutionally racist. It did find there is racism e.g. social media and that there is deprivation.

As many of us have argued though the opportunities are there if somebody is prepared to work hard and get the qualifications they will succeed.

The celebs need to convince black boys that "school is cool".

Edited by Badger11 (31 Mar 2021 7.55am)

To be fair no one ever convinced me either. I hated school and couldn’t wait to get out.
One difference in the Seventies was that further education was relatively uncommon so we weren’t in competition for jobs with people with degrees in Leisure Studies or Sports Management.

mezzer Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 31 Mar 21 9.22am
Originally posted by Badger11 Racist Britain, or maybe not. [Link] I am not surprised that this inquiry decided that Britain is not institutionally racist. It did find there is racism e.g. social media and that there is deprivation. As many of us have argued though the opportunities are there if somebody is prepared to work hard and get the qualifications they will succeed. For me the real issue is not black people being denied jobs or promotion but the educational failure of black boys especially. This is the issue that needs to be tackled not virtue signally taking a knee. The celebs need to convince black boys that "school is cool". Edited by Badger11 (31 Mar 2021 7.55am) David Lammy being a good example. Born in Tottenham, presumably not being whisked off to private school and out of the State system, and progressing to Harvard and being a qualified barrister from what I gather. A shining example of what can be achieved. It's a shame that negativity outweighs the positivity, but that is a human characteristic across millions, regardless of colour. Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.

mezzer

Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 31 Mar 21 9.22am

Originally posted by Badger11

Racist Britain, or maybe not.

[Link]

I am not surprised that this inquiry decided that Britain is not institutionally racist. It did find there is racism e.g. social media and that there is deprivation.

As many of us have argued though the opportunities are there if somebody is prepared to work hard and get the qualifications they will succeed.

The celebs need to convince black boys that "school is cool".

Edited by Badger11 (31 Mar 2021 7.55am)

David Lammy being a good example. Born in Tottenham, presumably not being whisked off to private school and out of the State system, and progressing to Harvard and being a qualified barrister from what I gather. A shining example of what can be achieved. It's a shame that negativity outweighs the positivity, but that is a human characteristic across millions, regardless of colour.

Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.

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