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Rubin Flag 11 Jun 16 12.06am

James Dyson passionately in favour of Brexit:

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Edited by Rubin (11 Jun 2016 12.18am)

 

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 11 Jun 16 12.10am

Originally posted by Rubin

Let me rephrase it then.

10,000 EU workers receive a higher salary than the British Prime Minister (regardless of which party he/she is from).

How many of their fathers kept fortunes in offshore accounts? (what happened about the Panama papers, gorn awfully quiet)

 

Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 11 Jun 16 12.17am

Originally posted by nickgusset

How many of their fathers kept fortunes in offshore accounts? (what happened about the Panama papers, gorn awfully quiet)

-.-'

 


Pro USA & Israel

leifandersonshair Flag Newport 11 Jun 16 7.36am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I see the EU as a bit like FIFA.
The sooner they realise it has failed and start a new organisation the better it will be for all the interested parties... Except that is, for the ones who are still riding the gravy train at our expense.

Big difference though- FIFA was (and is) irredeemable as an organisation. EU isn't perfect, but isn't (yet) rotten to the core.

Bit silly to think that we leave, and everyone else throws their hands up and says, 'oh well, UK gone, we'd better pack in the whole thing and start again.' Let's hope if Brexit happens we aren't pleading to be let back in to the club in 5 or 10 years time- something tells me that won't exactly be looked upon kindly by the EU!

 

matt_himself Flag Matataland 11 Jun 16 9.44am

10 point Brexit lead:

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"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 11 Jun 16 10.06am

Originally posted by matt_himself

10 point Brexit lead:

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Think the most interesting part of that report is the difference between the two sides in their intention to actually vote.

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 11 Jun 16 11.49am

Originally posted by leifandersonshair

Big difference though- FIFA was (and is) irredeemable as an organisation. EU isn't perfect, but isn't (yet) rotten to the core.

Bit silly to think that we leave, and everyone else throws their hands up and says, 'oh well, UK gone, we'd better pack in the whole thing and start again.' Let's hope if Brexit happens we aren't pleading to be let back in to the club in 5 or 10 years time- something tells me that won't exactly be looked upon kindly by the EU!

It is not silly at all.

It sometimes takes one party to lead the way. I'm not particular bothered if the EU collapses or not.
I'm just hoping we are not in it in two years time.

Sometime in the future, Europe and even the World might be run by one government but the road there is not necessarily an unbroken or straight one. We need to get it right first. Britain is not ready to surrender it's decision making to Brussels and that will surely happen sooner rather than later if we stay now. The EU is not working.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (11 Jun 2016 11.50am)

 

Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 11 Jun 16 1.49pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

10 point Brexit lead:

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*LIKE*

 


Pro USA & Israel

Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 11 Jun 16 2.00pm

I'd rather listen to the words of an entrepreneur than a civil servant who has never had to risk his or her own money.

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Pro USA & Israel

snytaxx Flag London 11 Jun 16 2.28pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

10 point Brexit lead:

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I'm a Brexiteer but I take this poll with a pinch of salt.

You have to remember that the government always does better in actual referendums / elections than is polled. I think this will almost be a dead heat. of a referendum coming down to a 4% difference 48% to 52%. I just don't know in who's favour.

 

leifandersonshair Flag Newport 11 Jun 16 2.44pm

Originally posted by snytaxx

I'm a Brexiteer but I take this poll with a pinch of salt.

You have to remember that the government always does better in actual referendums / elections than is polled. I think this will almost be a dead heat. of a referendum coming down to a 4% difference 48% to 52%. I just don't know in who's favour.

Probably right- plenty of people, stood in the ballot box, will be cautious, and vote for the status quo. 'Shy Remainers' maybe, much as there were 'shy Tories' last GE.

I'd be astonished if it's anywhere beyond 55-45 one way or the other. May even come down to less than 1% and a few hundred thousand votes.

Interesting times. Whatever happens, I hope the winning side is right for their post vote scenarios.

 

snytaxx Flag London 11 Jun 16 3.26pm

Originally posted by leifandersonshair

Probably right- plenty of people, stood in the ballot box, will be cautious, and vote for the status quo. 'Shy Remainers' maybe, much as there were 'shy Tories' last GE.

I'd be astonished if it's anywhere beyond 55-45 one way or the other. May even come down to less than 1% and a few hundred thousand votes.

Interesting times. Whatever happens, I hope the winning side is right for their post vote scenarios.

Good post, but disagree with this.

I think some undecided voters will vote for the status quo, but I also think a fair few people are secretly much more eurosceptic than they will let on in public. I think some people in the REMAIN camp, but not the actual campaign itself still think its 'racist' to vote to leave. Although the situation is improving quite a lot as people actually taking the time to look at the debate in detail rather then instantly resort to rhetoric and insults (mostly).

At the start of this campaign, while representing my country at a Culture Festival, I was chatting to a passing student (from the UK) for about 5 - 10 minutes. When she asked me about my voting intentions, I said I was for 'Brexit' she looked rather puzzled and asked for clarification as to what this term meant , when I spelled it out for her, she just questioned if I was a 'stupid F***king idiot' and then stomped off. Bizarre exchange really.

 

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 11 Jun 16 3.49pm

Originally posted by snytaxx

Good post, but disagree with this.

I think some undecided voters will vote for the status quo, but I also think a fair few people are secretly much more eurosceptic than they will let on in public. I think some people in the REMAIN camp, but not the actual campaign itself still think its 'racist' to vote to leave. Although the situation is improving quite a lot as people actually taking the time to look at the debate in detail rather then instantly resort to rhetoric and insults (mostly).

At the start of this campaign, while representing my country at a Culture Festival, I was chatting to a passing student (from the UK) for about 5 - 10 minutes. When she asked me about my voting intentions, I said I was for 'Brexit' she looked rather puzzled and asked for clarification as to what this term meant , when I spelled it out for her, she just questioned if I was a 'stupid F***king idiot' and then stomped off. Bizarre exchange really.

Students today have a tendency to shut debate down.

If she gets her way it'll be less likely she and/or her children will have any joy buying a house anywhere near where she wants.

Funny one I heard last week was on BBC. A Welsh early 20's care worker is a remainer. All her family are Leavers. She said she wants to remain so she can go and work abroad because that's how things are going.

Aren't things going how she says because we're in Europe? And haven't they been saying that the care work industry relies on immigrants? So why does she need to work abroad if there's a shortage?

 


COYP

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 11 Jun 16 5.39pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Students today have a tendency to shut debate down.

If she gets her way it'll be less likely she and/or her children will have any joy buying a house anywhere near where she wants.

Funny one I heard last week was on BBC. A Welsh early 20's care worker is a remainer. All her family are Leavers. She said she wants to remain so she can go and work abroad because that's how things are going.

Aren't things going how she says because we're in Europe? And haven't they been saying that the care work industry relies on immigrants? So why does she need to work abroad if there's a shortage?


Working conditions for carers in the UK are pretty s*** by all accounts, as are wages.

 

matt_himself Flag Matataland 11 Jun 16 5.52pm

Originally posted by nickgusset


Working conditions for carers in the UK are pretty s*** by all accounts, as are wages.

Do you know any carers?

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

matt_himself Flag Matataland 11 Jun 16 6.07pm

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"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 11 Jun 16 7.47pm

Originally posted by snytaxx

Good post, but disagree with this.

I think some undecided voters will vote for the status quo, but I also think a fair few people are secretly much more eurosceptic than they will let on in public. I think some people in the REMAIN camp, but not the actual campaign itself still think its 'racist' to vote to leave. Although the situation is improving quite a lot as people actually taking the time to look at the debate in detail rather then instantly resort to rhetoric and insults (mostly).

At the start of this campaign, while representing my country at a Culture Festival, I was chatting to a passing student (from the UK) for about 5 - 10 minutes. When she asked me about my voting intentions, I said I was for 'Brexit' she looked rather puzzled and asked for clarification as to what this term meant , when I spelled it out for her, she just questioned if I was a 'stupid F***king idiot' and then stomped off. Bizarre exchange really.

I hope you punched the bitch.

 


Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 11 Jun 16 7.49pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

Do you know any carers?

Only yours.

 

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 11 Jun 16 7.52pm

A picture can say more than a thousand words...

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matt_himself Flag Matataland 11 Jun 16 8.08pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Only yours.

So none then.

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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