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PalazioVecchio south pole 30 May 22 12.25pm
Originally posted by croydon proud One brave member on here will be waiting on the beach as the Russian destroyers pull up! to request that the Russian military visit the BBC headquarters and 'have a word' with the senior management. Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

PalazioVecchio

south pole 30 May 22 12.25pm

Originally posted by croydon proud

One brave member on here will be waiting on the beach as the Russian destroyers pull up!

to request that the Russian military visit the BBC headquarters and 'have a word' with the senior management.

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

cryrst The garden of England 14 Jun 22 4.13am
Grenfell is story no 3 on the BBC news site. What for I don’t know as it’s all still in the courts no further than pre covid. I reckon there is a big story about to be buried and nothing to do with grenfell. Watch this space I guess !

cryrst

The garden of England 14 Jun 22 4.13am

Grenfell is story no 3 on the BBC news site.
What for I don’t know as it’s all still in the courts no further than pre covid.
I reckon there is a big story about to be buried and nothing to do with grenfell.
Watch this space I guess !

Badger11 Beckenham 14 Jun 22 7.46am
Originally posted by cryrst Grenfell is story no 3 on the BBC news site. What for I don’t know as it’s all still in the courts no further than pre covid. I reckon there is a big story about to be buried and nothing to do with grenfell. Watch this space I guess ! I noticed that as well however it's the anniversary so I guess it is valid. Apparently the main report will not be out until next year. One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 14 Jun 22 7.46am

Originally posted by cryrst

I noticed that as well however it's the anniversary so I guess it is valid. Apparently the main report will not be out until next year.

One more point

Badger11 Beckenham 15 Jun 22 7.43am
50,000 people a year are prosecuted by the BBC just so it can continue to suck on the taxpayers tit. Defund the BBC [Link] One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 15 Jun 22 7.43am

50,000 people a year are prosecuted by the BBC just so it can continue to suck on the taxpayers tit.

Defund the BBC

[Link]

One more point

Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 15 Jun 22 8.08am
Originally posted by cryrst Grenfell is story no 3 on the BBC news site. What for I don’t know as it’s all still in the courts no further than pre covid. I reckon there is a big story about to be buried and nothing to do with grenfell. Watch this space I guess ! Long gone are real investigative journalists, like Roger Cook (at grass roots level). Had a lot of time and respect for Laura Kuenssberg at the BBC, but seems she was 'promoted out of the way' by people higher up. No one will be prosecuted for Grenfell. Any formal investigation will fail to find anyone, and no (BBC) journalists will bother taking this up, because if they find a story, then their career will be terminated. I disengage, I turn the page.

Forest Hillbilly

in a hidey-hole 15 Jun 22 8.08am

Originally posted by cryrst

Long gone are real investigative journalists, like Roger Cook (at grass roots level). Had a lot of time and respect for Laura Kuenssberg at the BBC, but seems she was 'promoted out of the way' by people higher up.

No one will be prosecuted for Grenfell. Any formal investigation will fail to find anyone, and no (BBC) journalists will bother taking this up, because if they find a story, then their career will be terminated.

I disengage, I turn the page.

W12 15 Jun 22 9.37am
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly Long gone are real investigative journalists, like Roger Cook (at grass roots level). Had a lot of time and respect for Laura Kuenssberg at the BBC, but seems she was 'promoted out of the way' by people higher up. No one will be prosecuted for Grenfell. Any formal investigation will fail to find anyone, and no (BBC) journalists will bother taking this up, because if they find a story, then their career will be terminated. John Pilger is still doing good work and there are other good journalists on the left like Glen Greenwald that are trying to hold the powerful to account but very few in the mainstream.

W12 15 Jun 22 9.37am

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

John Pilger is still doing good work and there are other good journalists on the left like Glen Greenwald that are trying to hold the powerful to account but very few in the mainstream.

BlueJay UK 15 Jun 22 12.29pm
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly Long gone are real investigative journalists, like Roger Cook (at grass roots level). Had a lot of time and respect for Laura Kuenssberg at the BBC, but seems she was 'promoted out of the way' by people higher up. No one will be prosecuted for Grenfell. Any formal investigation will fail to find anyone, and no (BBC) journalists will bother taking this up, because if they find a story, then their career will be terminated. What a titan Roger Cook was. Principled rather than partisan in either direction, and unafraid where others feared to tread. I always liked the description of him as being a cross between "Meatloaf and the Equaliser" .

BlueJay

UK 15 Jun 22 12.29pm

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

What a titan Roger Cook was. Principled rather than partisan in either direction, and unafraid where others feared to tread. I always liked the description of him as being a cross between "Meatloaf and the Equaliser" .

cryrst The garden of England 15 Jun 22 5.13pm
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly Long gone are real investigative journalists, like Roger Cook (at grass roots level). Had a lot of time and respect for Laura Kuenssberg at the BBC, but seems she was 'promoted out of the way' by people higher up. No one will be prosecuted for Grenfell. Any formal investigation will fail to find anyone, and no (BBC) journalists will bother taking this up, because if they find a story, then their career will be terminated. They will be IF they are guilty. What cannot happen is slinging people in jail to appease the public and families.

cryrst

The garden of England 15 Jun 22 5.13pm

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

They will be IF they are guilty.
What cannot happen is slinging people in jail to appease the public and families.

BlueJay UK 15 Jun 22 5.49pm
Originally posted by cryrst They will be IF they are guilty. What cannot happen is slinging people in jail to appease the public and families. I think you're partly right, in that anyone who could end up in jail due to this is likely not key to what panned out. And those who did actually make the decisions that led to this can likely claim to be far enough removed from it all that they won't ever be held to account anyway. Multiple crap decisions to cut corners and save money, that put people at significant risk in the process.

BlueJay

UK 15 Jun 22 5.49pm

Originally posted by cryrst

They will be IF they are guilty.

What cannot happen is slinging people in jail to appease the public and families.

I think you're partly right, in that anyone who could end up in jail due to this is likely not key to what panned out. And those who did actually make the decisions that led to this can likely claim to be far enough removed from it all that they won't ever be held to account anyway. Multiple crap decisions to cut corners and save money, that put people at significant risk in the process.

Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 15 Jun 22 6.03pm
Grenfell. Ultimately someone/committee gave the go-ahead for the cladding in the knowledge it didn't meet standard. Those involved have had plenty of time to muddy the waters and construct a suitably vague chain of events. Jimmy Savile. Who knew ? No-one, apparently. Jonathan King ? I wasn't here when he touched kids. BBC journalism is just too much part of the establishment to be any good at investigating. Edited by Forest Hillbilly (15 Jun 2022 6.10pm) I disengage, I turn the page.

Forest Hillbilly

in a hidey-hole 15 Jun 22 6.03pm

Grenfell. Ultimately someone/committee gave the go-ahead for the cladding in the knowledge it didn't meet standard. Those involved have had plenty of time to muddy the waters and construct a suitably vague chain of events.
Jimmy Savile. Who knew ? No-one, apparently. Jonathan King ? I wasn't here when he touched kids.

BBC journalism is just too much part of the establishment to be any good at investigating.

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (15 Jun 2022 6.10pm)

I disengage, I turn the page.

W12 15 Jun 22 6.48pm
Posted this on the Ukraine thread but jeeze. Come on man?! [Link]

W12 15 Jun 22 6.48pm

Posted this on the Ukraine thread but jeeze. Come on man?!

[Link]

cryrst The garden of England 15 Jun 22 7.34pm
Originally posted by BlueJay I think you're partly right, in that anyone who could end up in jail due to this is likely not key to what panned out. And those who did actually make the decisions that led to this can likely claim to be far enough removed from it all that they won't ever be held to account anyway. Multiple crap decisions to cut corners and save money, that put people at significant risk in the process. I think the cladding was suitable for the regulations in place at the time. Are we not constantly reading from some how hmg wasted money and spent unwisely on covid. We don’t know if it was money well spent. Now it appears the council in charge of K and C finances should have doubled the spend on grenfell to fit different (safer) cladding. We now know it would have been money well spent! Hindsight is wonderful. Where and how did the fire start and how long did it take to raise the alarm and if too long why? You won’t find this info; even within a multi million pound investigation and ongoing court case. Even the most basic car crash has more detail. The cynic in me feels there may be a bit of a cover up for that info?!?.

cryrst

The garden of England 15 Jun 22 7.34pm

Originally posted by BlueJay

I think the cladding was suitable for the regulations in place at the time.
Are we not constantly reading from some how hmg wasted money and spent unwisely on covid. We don’t know if it was money well spent. Now it appears the council in charge of K and C finances should have doubled the spend on grenfell to fit different (safer) cladding. We now know it would have been money well spent!
Hindsight is wonderful.
Where and how did the fire start and how long did it take to raise the alarm and if too long why?
You won’t find this info; even within a multi million pound investigation and ongoing court case. Even the most basic car crash has more detail. The cynic in me feels there may be a bit of a cover up for that info?!?.

cryrst The garden of England 16 Jun 22 7.40pm
If nothing else there’s a sort on there headline picture atm

cryrst

The garden of England 16 Jun 22 7.40pm

If nothing else there’s a sort on there headline picture atm

Badger11 Beckenham 17 Jun 22 7.42am
BBC training on Trans issues not impartial. [Link] When is the BBC going to learn if you invite activists to give your staff training it's hardly likely to be impartial. You wouldn't ask the SNP to state the case for the Union or independence? It does beg the question, the BBC has hundreds of researchers on the payroll as they saying they are incapable of researching this issue and providing training material that is impartial? Why do they need Stonewall and now this new body? How much are they spending on external training? Isn't this an sneaky way of providing funding for your alphabet soup mates? Edited by Badger11 (17 Jun 2022 7.44am) One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 17 Jun 22 7.42am

BBC training on Trans issues not impartial.

[Link]

When is the BBC going to learn if you invite activists to give your staff training it's hardly likely to be impartial.

You wouldn't ask the SNP to state the case for the Union or independence?

It does beg the question, the BBC has hundreds of researchers on the payroll as they saying they are incapable of researching this issue and providing training material that is impartial?

Why do they need Stonewall and now this new body? How much are they spending on external training?

Isn't this an sneaky way of providing funding for your alphabet soup mates?

Edited by Badger11 (17 Jun 2022 7.44am)

One more point

becky over the moon 22 Jun 22 7.36pm
Anyone else noticed on BBC, the advert for next week's Wimbledon - all women, praising their achievements, a poster showing 'we fought for equal pay' and the final punchline "We know our place" Hopefully Cucking Funt will be along soon to mention kitchens But what about the men? Their games are harder, faster & longer! A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

becky

over the moon 22 Jun 22 7.36pm

Anyone else noticed on BBC, the advert for next week's Wimbledon - all women, praising their achievements, a poster showing 'we fought for equal pay' and the final punchline "We know our place"

Hopefully Cucking Funt will be along soon to mention kitchens

But what about the men? Their games are harder, faster & longer!

A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 22 Jun 22 9.11pm
Originally posted by becky Anyone else noticed on BBC, the advert for next week's Wimbledon - all women, praising their achievements, a poster showing 'we fought for equal pay' and the final punchline "We know our place" Hopefully Cucking Funt will be along soon to mention kitchens But what about the men? Their games are harder, faster & longer! Never heard it called 'games' before. Something tells me you'll be keeping an eye on the tennis, or the ball. Red and Blue Army!

ASCPFC

Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 22 Jun 22 9.11pm

Originally posted by becky

Anyone else noticed on BBC, the advert for next week's Wimbledon - all women, praising their achievements, a poster showing 'we fought for equal pay' and the final punchline "We know our place"

Hopefully Cucking Funt will be along soon to mention kitchens

But what about the men? Their games are harder, faster & longer!

Never heard it called 'games' before. Something tells me you'll be keeping an eye on the tennis, or the ball.

Red and Blue Army!

The Dolphin 23 Jun 22 6.38am
I believe that Mick Lynch of the RMT is being given a platform on Question Time tonight. I am delighted my money is being so well spent. Cnuts!

The Dolphin

23 Jun 22 6.38am

I believe that Mick Lynch of the RMT is being given a platform on Question Time tonight.
I am delighted my money is being so well spent.
Cnuts!

Spiderman Horsham 23 Jun 22 7.12am
Originally posted by Badger11 BBC training on Trans issues not impartial. [Link] When is the BBC going to learn if you invite activists to give your staff training it's hardly likely to be impartial. You wouldn't ask the SNP to state the case for the Union or independence? It does beg the question, the BBC has hundreds of researchers on the payroll as they saying they are incapable of researching this issue and providing training material that is impartial? Why do they need Stonewall and now this new body? How much are they spending on external training? Isn't this an sneaky way of providing funding for your alphabet soup mates? Edited by Badger11 (17 Jun 2022 7.44am) Many Govt Depts have been employing Stonewall. However most have now dropped them, unfortunately one of the biggest, the HO, still insist on employing them

Spiderman

Horsham 23 Jun 22 7.12am

Originally posted by Badger11

BBC training on Trans issues not impartial.

[Link]

When is the BBC going to learn if you invite activists to give your staff training it's hardly likely to be impartial.

You wouldn't ask the SNP to state the case for the Union or independence?

It does beg the question, the BBC has hundreds of researchers on the payroll as they saying they are incapable of researching this issue and providing training material that is impartial?

Why do they need Stonewall and now this new body? How much are they spending on external training?

Isn't this an sneaky way of providing funding for your alphabet soup mates?

Edited by Badger11 (17 Jun 2022 7.44am)

Many Govt Depts have been employing Stonewall. However most have now dropped them, unfortunately one of the biggest, the HO, still insist on employing them

Spiderman Horsham 23 Jun 22 7.34am
Looks like legal cases will be forthcoming. No discrimination at work! Obviously doesn’t work both ways [Link]

Spiderman

Horsham 23 Jun 22 7.34am

Looks like legal cases will be forthcoming. No discrimination at work! Obviously doesn’t work both ways

[Link]

Matov 23 Jun 22 6.59pm
A horrendous case today of a Nigerian couple being charged with human smuggling with regards to bringing a kid in for the purposes of organ harvesting. With the BBC, using your money, to very kindly translate it into this version of English. LOL. Worth the licence fee alone... [Link] "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Matov

23 Jun 22 6.59pm

A horrendous case today of a Nigerian couple being charged with human smuggling with regards to bringing a kid in for the purposes of organ harvesting.

With the BBC, using your money, to very kindly translate it into this version of English. LOL. Worth the licence fee alone...

[Link]

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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