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nickgusset  Shizzlehurst 10 May 16 12.00pm |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
At this stage they would need to be somewhere approaching 8/10% ahead. You're having as much trouble grasping this concept as you do understanding how pension scheme's work. I've tried to explain it as simply as I know how, but I'll leave you to your blind optimism fueled by Labour Party activist bloggers.
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| Hoof Hearted 10 May 16 12.08pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
There could be four thousand years.... Corbyn still wouldn't get in! (LOL I'm smashing you like Cameron does Corbyn at PMQ's....) Edited by Hoof Hearted (10 May 2016 12.09pm)
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 10 May 16 12.28pm |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
There could be four thousand years.... Corbyn still wouldn't get in! (LOL I'm smashing you like Cameron does Corbyn at PMQ's....) Edited by Hoof Hearted (10 May 2016 12.09pm)
Corbyn 'you should abandon your academy plan's' Fast forward 3 days and the academy plans are dropped.
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| Hoof Hearted 10 May 16 12.34pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Corbyn 'you should abandon your academy plan's' Fast forward 3 days and the academy plans are dropped.
Wasn't worthy of an airing on the primetime news, HIGNFY or R4 Today programme whereas this was... Even the Labour front bench were laughing. SMMMMMMMMAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 10 May 16 12.55pm |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
Wasn't worthy of an airing on the primetime news, HIGNFY or R4 Today programme whereas this was... Even the Labour front bench were laughing. SMMMMMMMMAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH Thanks for highlighting media bias.
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| Hoof Hearted 10 May 16 1.09pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Thanks for highlighting media bias. I think you'll find it was purely down to content. One was boring as fcuk and one was hilarious.... as evidenced by Andy Burnham being unable to keep a straight face.
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 matt_himself Matataland 12 May 16 9.44am |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
How's this for a stat, Gusset?
"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02 |
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Attachment: | jamiemartin721 Reading 12 May 16 9.54am |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
I'm no fan of Cameron either. But it's obvious to everyone on here except Gusset of course that in a straight fight Cameron will knock 7 bells out of Corbyn on every aspect of politics as he does on a daily basis. However, it's the voting public that count and they will never vote in Corbyn ever. Although he doesn't appear to be anywhere near as unpopular as people have been stating. The continual 'landslide' defeats fail to materialise each time. I think he's popular with some of the voting public. As for beating seven bells and Cameron, it reminds me in some ways of Socrates. Winning, isn't the same as being right. That's the fallacy of politics. Sophistry. Cameron is a great sophist. Corbyn, whilst obviously not Socrates, is hitting on some subjects that really do need to be addressed directly by real change (wages,the housing crisis, homelessness, taxation, poverty, employment). Some of these issues, are suicidal for elections, but they are definitely issues the UK needs to resolve if it wants to resolve some of its escalating problems, that have been going on now for generations
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| Hoof Hearted 12 May 16 10.21am | |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Although he doesn't appear to be anywhere near as unpopular as people have been stating. The continual 'landslide' defeats fail to materialise each time. I think he's popular with some of the voting public. As for beating seven bells and Cameron, it reminds me in some ways of Socrates. Winning, isn't the same as being right. That's the fallacy of politics. Sophistry. Cameron is a great sophist. Corbyn, whilst obviously not Socrates, is hitting on some subjects that really do need to be addressed directly by real change (wages,the housing crisis, homelessness, taxation, poverty, employment). Some of these issues, are suicidal for elections, but they are definitely issues the UK needs to resolve if it wants to resolve some of its escalating problems, that have been going on now for generations In your long winded fashion and convoluted style I believe you are in accordance with my findings. As long as Cameron appears to be publicly beating up Corbyn the public perception of Corbyn is harmed to the extent that no matter what he says or does in respect of policy people just won't take him seriously - just like his predecessors.... Kinnock - falling on his arse in the sea at Brighton. Miliband - Bacon Sandwich, Tuffinuss and tripping over podium. Foot - Scruffy old anti-war tramp in a duffle coat. Appearance does affect your credibility and Corbyn has already gone beyond the threshold of being accepted as credible by the core of voters. The Labour Party are wasting their time persevering with him if they want to win in 2020.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 13 May 16 9.50am |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
In your long winded fashion and convoluted style I believe you are in accordance with my findings. Kinnock - falling on his arse in the sea at Brighton. Miliband - Bacon Sandwich, Tuffinuss and tripping over podium. Foot - Scruffy old anti-war tramp in a duffle coat. Appearance does affect your credibility and Corbyn has already gone beyond the threshold of being accepted as credible by the core of voters. The Labour Party are wasting their time persevering with him if they want to win in 2020.
Nail on head. That's why the press and hissyfitters within the Labour party keep giving this narrative.They can't attack his ideas because actually a lot of people agree with them. How many u turns have there been recently? Now I'm not pretending Corbyn alone helped along these government backdowns. If it was the other way round the press would be all over the Tories, praising their part in the backdown. No, because it's Corbyn we are instead told he's a communist 70's throwback terrorist sympathising geography teacher who probably stinks out the commons with b.o. Obviously this is far more important because it deflects. Hoof mate, if appearance is the first thing you look for in a politician, then I despair. The thing is, it seems you have been taken in by it The blame Corbyn bandwagon rolls on. Edited by nickgusset (13 May 2016 9.52am)
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| Hoof Hearted 13 May 16 11.48am | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Nail on head. That's why the press and hissyfitters within the Labour party keep giving this narrative.They can't attack his ideas because actually a lot of people agree with them. How many u turns have there been recently? Now I'm not pretending Corbyn alone helped along these government backdowns. If it was the other way round the press would be all over the Tories, praising their part in the backdown. No, because it's Corbyn we are instead told he's a communist 70's throwback terrorist sympathising geography teacher who probably stinks out the commons with b.o. Obviously this is far more important because it deflects. Hoof mate, if appearance is the first thing you look for in a politician, then I despair. The thing is, it seems you have been taken in by it The blame Corbyn bandwagon rolls on. Edited by nickgusset (13 May 2016 9.52am) Scruffy appearance, contradictions of stated beliefs, clumsiness in public, rambling speech talking about other people, allowing others to belittle him, etc. It does not give the impression that he is a Statesman. His decision to join the EU Remain camp is just ridiculous after 40 years of campaigning ferociously against all it stands for. Just as ridiculous as Cameron's similar stance, but his media team are doing a better job of sugaring the medicine than Corbyn's has. He doesn't need to be leader. If his ideas are so good they could be channeled through a more media friendly figurehead who might be more acceptable to Joe Public and actually vote Labour. I know what you are trying to do... make me look to others like I am shallow and only interested in shiny pretty things. You are just kidding yourself, you know I'm right and my predictions will come true in 2020 if Labour stick with Corbyn as leader.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 19 May 16 8.55pm |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
You castigate others for using independently written blogs as a source yet use Guido.
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| Inapickle South West 19 May 16 11.36pm |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
Scruffy appearance, contradictions of stated beliefs, clumsiness in public, rambling speech talking about other people, allowing others to belittle him, etc. It does not give the impression that he is a Statesman. His decision to join the EU Remain camp is just ridiculous after 40 years of campaigning ferociously against all it stands for. Just as ridiculous as Cameron's similar stance, but his media team are doing a better job of sugaring the medicine than Corbyn's has. He doesn't need to be leader. If his ideas are so good they could be channeled through a more media friendly figurehead who might be more acceptable to Joe Public and actually vote Labour. I know what you are trying to do... make me look to others like I am shallow and only interested in shiny pretty things. You are just kidding yourself, you know I'm right and my predictions will come true in 2020 if Labour stick with Corbyn as leader. ..I think you may find his appeal is his Scruffy appearance, contradictions of stated beliefs, clumsiness in public and his rambling speeches about other people, he is I feel actually chipping along very well as leader, people can imagine themselves being in his company and treated fairly, he is showing himself to be in touch.
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| Inapickle South West 19 May 16 11.37pm |
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Originally posted by Catfish
Have to say, I chuckled at the sight of Cameron attempting small talk with Corbyn at the opening of Parliament. Corbyn was having none of it. How refreshing to see honest, undisguised hatred.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 19 May 16 11.57pm |
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Originally posted by Inapickle
..I think you may find his appeal is his Scruffy appearance, contradictions of stated beliefs, clumsiness in public and his rambling speeches about other people, he is I feel actually chipping along very well as leader, people can imagine themselves being in his company and treated fairly, he is showing himself to be in touch. Goodness Grief Doesn't enter my imagination.I certainly wouldn't choose to be in his company.
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| Inapickle South West 20 May 16 2.07am |
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Originally posted by Willo
Goodness Grief Doesn't enter my imagination.I certainly wouldn't choose to be in his company. ..if you bat for the other side I wouldn't expect you to
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| matt_himself Matataland 20 May 16 6.00am |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
You castigate others for using independently written blogs as a source yet use Guido.
The difference is that Guido backs up their positions with fact (do you dispute the validity of the Ipsos Mori poll?) rather than just write unsubstantiated anal discharge and dress it up as fact, which is what the majority of your blogs do.
"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02 |
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 20 May 16 8.50am |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
The difference is that Guido backs up their positions with fact (do you dispute the validity of the Ipsos Mori poll?) rather than just write unsubstantiated anal discharge and dress it up as fact, which is what the majority of your blogs do. Guido claims to be independent, which it clearly isn't as it is backed by lobbying and pressure groups. Still. At least I know now that you pilfer your oh so hilarious responses directly from the comments section.
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