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Hrolf The Ganger 14 Jun 16 10.45pm
Originally posted by glazedallover Great support from the icelandics at the euros tonight. I imagine hrolf the ganger to come from that tiny viking gene pool..... The actual Hrolf came from Scandinavia and went on to become ruler of Normandy. I certainly have some Normans in my family tree but I also have a lot of other people as well. I have not done one of those DNA test things but I expect my genes are much the same as many other Brits.

Hrolf The Ganger

14 Jun 16 10.45pm

Originally posted by glazedallover

Great support from the icelandics at the euros tonight. I imagine hrolf the ganger to come from that tiny viking gene pool.....

The actual Hrolf came from Scandinavia and went on to become ruler of Normandy.

I certainly have some Normans in my family tree but I also have a lot of other people as well. I have not done one of those DNA test things but I expect my genes are much the same as many other Brits.

legaleagle 14 Jun 16 11.36pm
There is some doubt as to whether Rollo, the Scandinavian who took over Normandy and was William the Conqueror's great great great grandfather,was the same person as the Norweigian Ganger Hrolf. Seems DNA tests are being carried out with Ganger Hrolf's tomb in Normandy having been opened for this purpose! Interesting though,in any event, to see the HOL Hrolf naming himself after the dynastic founder of a lineage containing such a prominent early exponent of union between European countries, albeit union against the will of the "English"

legaleagle

14 Jun 16 11.36pm

There is some doubt as to whether Rollo, the Scandinavian who took over Normandy and was William the Conqueror's great great great grandfather,was the same person as the Norweigian Ganger Hrolf.

Seems DNA tests are being carried out with Ganger Hrolf's tomb in Normandy having been opened for this purpose!

Interesting though,in any event, to see the HOL Hrolf naming himself after the dynastic founder of a lineage containing such a prominent early exponent of union between European countries, albeit union against the will of the "English"

DivingIsNotGood se25 15 Jun 16 8.07am
Originally posted by Kermit8 What's the problem with 1m higher level Turkish being able to visit Britain without a visa? They won't all be booking the same flight or knocking at your door the following morning. They'll be spending their dosh here too. Britain clears path to further Turkey EU membership talks [Link] VOTING OUT - Brexit will allow Britain to embrace the Commonwealth and be GREAT again

DivingIsNotGood

se25 15 Jun 16 8.07am

Originally posted by Kermit8

What's the problem with 1m higher level Turkish being able to visit Britain without a visa? They won't all be booking the same flight or knocking at your door the following morning. They'll be spending their dosh here too.

Britain clears path to further Turkey EU membership talks
[Link]

VOTING OUT - Brexit will allow Britain to embrace the Commonwealth and be GREAT again

Kermit8 Hevon 15 Jun 16 8.16am
Originally posted by DivingIsNotGood Britain clears path to further Turkey EU membership talks [Link] Turkey fails in many areas for the basic criteria needed to be able to join and those areas are not going to be suitably adjusted anytime soon. You are ScaremongeringIsNotGood. Remain Big chest and massive boobs [Link]

Kermit8

Hevon 15 Jun 16 8.16am

Originally posted by DivingIsNotGood

Britain clears path to further Turkey EU membership talks
[Link]

Turkey fails in many areas for the basic criteria needed to be able to join and those areas are not going to be suitably adjusted anytime soon. You are ScaremongeringIsNotGood.

Remain

Big chest and massive boobs

[Link]

DivingIsNotGood se25 15 Jun 16 9.04am
If remain win Turkey will be fast tracked. It will happen and nothing anyone in the UK can do about it. Out of our hands. -You'reSusceptibilityIsNotGood VOTING OUT - Brexit will allow Britain to embrace the Commonwealth and be GREAT again

DivingIsNotGood

se25 15 Jun 16 9.04am

If remain win Turkey will be fast tracked. It will happen and nothing anyone in the UK can do about it. Out of our hands.

-You'reSusceptibilityIsNotGood

VOTING OUT - Brexit will allow Britain to embrace the Commonwealth and be GREAT again

Rubin 15 Jun 16 9.09am
Originally posted by Kermit8 Turkey fails in many areas for the basic criteria needed to be able to join and those areas are not going to be suitably adjusted anytime soon. You are ScaremongeringIsNotGood. Remain [Link]

Rubin

15 Jun 16 9.09am

Originally posted by Kermit8

Turkey fails in many areas for the basic criteria needed to be able to join and those areas are not going to be suitably adjusted anytime soon. You are ScaremongeringIsNotGood.

Remain

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DivingIsNotGood se25 15 Jun 16 9.35am
Kermit tell me you are at least middle-aged, work hard for a living, support your kids through uni etc and not some spotty teenager living off the bank of dad under their roof? VOTING OUT - Brexit will allow Britain to embrace the Commonwealth and be GREAT again

DivingIsNotGood

se25 15 Jun 16 9.35am

Kermit tell me you are at least middle-aged, work hard for a living, support your kids through uni etc and not some spotty teenager living off the bank of dad under their roof?

VOTING OUT - Brexit will allow Britain to embrace the Commonwealth and be GREAT again

DivingIsNotGood se25 15 Jun 16 9.35am
Originally posted by Rubin [Link] [Link] VOTING OUT - Brexit will allow Britain to embrace the Commonwealth and be GREAT again

DivingIsNotGood

se25 15 Jun 16 9.35am

Originally posted by Rubin

[Link]

VOTING OUT - Brexit will allow Britain to embrace the Commonwealth and be GREAT again

Rubin 15 Jun 16 9.43am
Originally posted by Kermit8 Turkey fails in many areas for the basic criteria needed to be able to join and those areas are not going to be suitably adjusted anytime soon. You are ScaremongeringIsNotGood. Remain In the same way that Greece didn't meet the criteria?

Rubin

15 Jun 16 9.43am

Originally posted by Kermit8

Turkey fails in many areas for the basic criteria needed to be able to join and those areas are not going to be suitably adjusted anytime soon. You are ScaremongeringIsNotGood.

Remain

In the same way that Greece didn't meet the criteria?

Kermit8 Hevon 15 Jun 16 9.46am
Originally posted by DivingIsNotGood Kermit tell me you are at least middle-aged, work hard for a living, support your kids through uni etc and not some spotty teenager living off the bank of dad under their roof? Would you like to be our employee no.4? We could do with someone like you. Telling it how it isn't. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]

Kermit8

Hevon 15 Jun 16 9.46am

Originally posted by DivingIsNotGood

Kermit tell me you are at least middle-aged, work hard for a living, support your kids through uni etc and not some spotty teenager living off the bank of dad under their roof?

Would you like to be our employee no.4? We could do with someone like you. Telling it how it isn't.

Big chest and massive boobs

[Link]

DivingIsNotGood se25 15 Jun 16 9.47am
Originally posted by Kermit8 Would you like to be our employee no.4? We could do with someone like you. Telling it how it isn't. Yeah would love to work for someone like you, whats the website address? VOTING OUT - Brexit will allow Britain to embrace the Commonwealth and be GREAT again

DivingIsNotGood

se25 15 Jun 16 9.47am

Originally posted by Kermit8

Would you like to be our employee no.4? We could do with someone like you. Telling it how it isn't.

Yeah would love to work for someone like you, whats the website address?

VOTING OUT - Brexit will allow Britain to embrace the Commonwealth and be GREAT again

Kermit8 Hevon 15 Jun 16 9.50am
Originally posted by Rubin In the same way that Greece didn't meet the criteria? Explain, please. They joined in 1981. What did they fail on back then but were allowed in anyway? Big chest and massive boobs [Link]

Kermit8

Hevon 15 Jun 16 9.50am

Originally posted by Rubin

In the same way that Greece didn't meet the criteria?

Explain, please. They joined in 1981. What did they fail on back then but were allowed in anyway?

Big chest and massive boobs

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Rubin 15 Jun 16 9.52am
Originally posted by Kermit8 Explain, please. They joined in 1981. What did they fail on back then but were allowed in anyway? Oops, I'm going to vote remain now.

Rubin

15 Jun 16 9.52am

Originally posted by Kermit8

Explain, please. They joined in 1981. What did they fail on back then but were allowed in anyway?

Oops, I'm going to vote remain now.

Kermit8 Hevon 15 Jun 16 9.52am
Originally posted by DivingIsNotGood Yeah would love to work for someone like you, whats the website address? I'll show you mine if you will show me your's. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]

Kermit8

Hevon 15 Jun 16 9.52am

Originally posted by DivingIsNotGood

Yeah would love to work for someone like you, whats the website address?

I'll show you mine if you will show me your's.

Big chest and massive boobs

[Link]

Kermit8 Hevon 15 Jun 16 9.54am
Originally posted by Rubin Oops, I'm going to vote remain now. It was only an honest question. 'you don't know' is I am guessing the answer? Ok if you vote remain i will vote leave. Fair? Big chest and massive boobs [Link]

Kermit8

Hevon 15 Jun 16 9.54am

Originally posted by Rubin

Oops, I'm going to vote remain now.

It was only an honest question. 'you don't know' is I am guessing the answer?

Ok if you vote remain i will vote leave. Fair?

Big chest and massive boobs

[Link]

Rubin 15 Jun 16 10.01am
Originally posted by Kermit8 It was only an honest question. 'you don't know' is I am guessing the answer? Ok if you vote remain i will vote leave. Fair? Deal. crossing fingers behind back I may have been thinking of them joining the euro, so I concede I didn't have a point. Still believe turkey will be allowed to join however, especially in light of the leaked documents the other day.

Rubin

15 Jun 16 10.01am

Originally posted by Kermit8

It was only an honest question. 'you don't know' is I am guessing the answer?

Ok if you vote remain i will vote leave. Fair?

Deal. *crossing fingers behind back*

I may have been thinking of them joining the euro, so I concede I didn't have a point. Still believe turkey will be allowed to join however, especially in light of the leaked documents the other day.

Hoof Hearted 15 Jun 16 10.51am
Originally posted by davenotamonkey Errrr. Newflash, you utter simpleton. It is an economic PROJECTION. Perhaps that has too many syllables for you. Let me explain as if you were a child: He has made some guesses about what might happen in the future. There are other boys and girls that also did this. They are called the Treasury (no, Kermit, nothing to do with treasure, sorry). They also made guesses about what might happen in the future. Why do they use all these "ifs" and "coulds", Kermit asks? Because they don't have a crystal fkucking ball. Idiot. You'll be disregarding the treasury report as well. It contains plenty of "ifs", "likely" and "coulds". David.... I've told you many times before - stop taking down Kermit's trousers and pants and spanking him!

Hoof Hearted 15 Jun 16 10.51am

Originally posted by davenotamonkey

Errrr. Newflash, you utter simpleton. It is an economic PROJECTION. Perhaps that has too many syllables for you. Let me explain as if you were a child:

He has made some guesses about what might happen in the future.

There are other boys and girls that also did this. They are called the Treasury (no, Kermit, nothing to do with treasure, sorry). They also made guesses about what might happen in the future.

Why do they use all these "ifs" and "coulds", Kermit asks? Because they don't have a crystal fkucking ball.

Idiot.

You'll be disregarding the treasury report as well. It contains plenty of "ifs", "likely" and "coulds".

David.... I've told you many times before - stop taking down Kermit's trousers and pants and spanking him!

jamiemartin721 Reading 15 Jun 16 11.36am
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger The actual Hrolf came from Scandinavia and went on to become ruler of Normandy. I certainly have some Normans in my family tree but I also have a lot of other people as well. I have not done one of those DNA test things but I expect my genes are much the same as many other Brits. I believe he is the basis for Ragnor's brother in the rather excellent 'Vikings' series. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]

jamiemartin721

Reading 15 Jun 16 11.36am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

The actual Hrolf came from Scandinavia and went on to become ruler of Normandy.

I believe he is the basis for Ragnor's brother in the rather excellent 'Vikings' series.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
[Link]

jamiemartin721 Reading 15 Jun 16 11.42am
What was this today in the news about Gove and BJ saying that an exit would require 30-60bn in cuts. I thought that it was established that the UK would be 'massively' better off without contributing to the EU. I only caught it briefly, does anyone have any further details, because to me that sounds like the opposite of being better off, if we have to make large scale cuts in public services. Especially as one of the classic leave arguments deals with the 'pressure of EU workers on public services' "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]

jamiemartin721

Reading 15 Jun 16 11.42am

What was this today in the news about Gove and BJ saying that an exit would require 30-60bn in cuts. I thought that it was established that the UK would be 'massively' better off without contributing to the EU.

I only caught it briefly, does anyone have any further details, because to me that sounds like the opposite of being better off, if we have to make large scale cuts in public services. Especially as one of the classic leave arguments deals with the 'pressure of EU workers on public services'

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
[Link]

johnfirewall 15 Jun 16 11.58am
Originally posted by Username 25% of GPs in the NHS were born outside the UK. What happens when we as a result of Brexit, the 1 million (often retired) older Brits living in Spain come back? Don't you think that's going to have a bigger effect on the NHS when they need to be cared for as well, as opposed to younger, working migrants who contribute to the NHS when paying taxes and frequently work in the service themselves? Valid argument which highlights the fact that the only thing these expats take from Spain is the use of their hospitals which are notoriously bad while anyone could come and sign on eventually. The net difference in the costs to each country would be a few mil at most but the disparity is my issue, the principle of the EU preventing us restricting from EU visitors what we're not entitled to over there. Edited by johnfirewall (15 Jun 2016 12.00pm)

johnfirewall

15 Jun 16 11.58am

Originally posted by Username

25% of GPs in the NHS were born outside the UK.

What happens when we as a result of Brexit, the 1 million (often retired) older Brits living in Spain come back?

Don't you think that's going to have a bigger effect on the NHS when they need to be cared for as well, as opposed to younger, working migrants who contribute to the NHS when paying taxes and frequently work in the service themselves?

Valid argument which highlights the fact that the only thing these expats take from Spain is the use of their hospitals which are notoriously bad while anyone could come and sign on eventually. The net difference in the costs to each country would be a few mil at most but the disparity is my issue, the principle of the EU preventing us restricting from EU visitors what we're not entitled to over there.

Edited by johnfirewall (15 Jun 2016 12.00pm)

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