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View Meerkat 2's Profile Meerkat 2 Flag 1957 19 Dec 03 8.47am Send a Private Message to Meerkat 2 Add Meerkat 2 as a friend

Should it be reintroduced for cases like Huntley, where the forensic evidence of his crime is so damning that there can be no doubt of his guilt, and the crime is so appalling there can be no question of him ever being released?

Edited by Meerkat 2 (19 Dec 2003 11:29am)

 

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View SOTH's Profile SOTH Flag West Wickham 19 Dec 03 9.02am Send a Private Message to SOTH Add SOTH as a friend

I'm with you Meerkat. There are plenty of people who oppose the death penanlty for a variety of reasons, but surely if ever there was a perfect example it's the murdering of children. I agree that there should be some sort of appeal, but if he's still found guilty after that then it's bye bye time!!!
Weren't those parents restrained??? I could not have sat in the same courtroom as him without laying into him. It would be worth the contempt fine just to lay one on him.

 


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View naughty'n'nice's Profile naughty'n'nice Flag Purley 19 Dec 03 9.25am Send a Private Message to naughty'n'nice Add naughty'n'nice as a friend

I feel quite strongly about it - that it should be reintrouduced, because of people like hindly, and huntley, anyone who abuses little children who dont know whats happening, and then killing them, butchering them in some cases. I think that if anyone could even do that to a child once, then they should be tortured or thrown to their death - without a nice injection, but the way that they killed others.

 


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View SOTH's Profile SOTH Flag West Wickham 19 Dec 03 9.29am Send a Private Message to SOTH Add SOTH as a friend

Let the family of the victim decide the penalty.

 


Remember standing on the Holmesdale in the pouring rain, watching Deano hit a blinder in the last minute????

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View Bexter's Profile Bexter Flag By the Sea 19 Dec 03 10.04am Send a Private Message to Bexter Add Bexter as a friend

absolutely not. firstly, it doesn't work as a deterrent - look at the US. secondly, being in prison for life is possibly worse, thirdly killing someone is wrong, full stop. whomever does it, including our justice system. it's sick. also, if you did open it just for definite cases - who decides they are definite? once the floodgates were opened there is the risk of many innocents dying - what about all those women accused of killing their babies by that dodgy professor? what about the birmingham six..... winston silcott..... etc etc etc!!

 

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View Moose's Profile Moose Flag In the sewer pipe... 19 Dec 03 10.55am Send a Private Message to Moose Add Moose as a friend

I'm with you on this one Bexter, you're only dragging yourself down to the level of the killer by executing them. And only one miscarriage of justice makes the whole idea collapse.

The mother of Sarah Payne has said of executing Roy Whiting: "Nobody has the right to take another person's life. I believe that child killers should get life imprisonment and never be allowed to walk the streets. Killing Whiting would not take the pain away. In fact killing someone like that would turn my stomach." Leaving someone to rot in prison is often a better idea than executing them. Death for some of these people is the easy way out: think of Fred West, who never stood trial for his crimes. Huntley also tried to top himself earlier this year. He's 29 now and might well have to spend 50 years in solitary confinement mulling over what he's done. That to me is a worse punishment than execution.

 


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View Meerkat 2's Profile Meerkat 2 Flag 1957 19 Dec 03 10.56am Send a Private Message to Meerkat 2 Add Meerkat 2 as a friend

But it would appear to me that the Huntley case could be described as both definate and heinous in the extreme. Where could there possibly be a shred of doubt he murdered the girls?

I agree with Bexter that the DP is not a deterrant, but what about the huge cost of keeping Huntley segregated for the rest of his life in an already overstretched prison system? Should we as tax payers really have to fund that? Should we still be paying to keep Ian Brady alive against his own wishes for that matter?

By the way I'm not saying I believe the death penalty SHOULD be reintroduced and I share some of Beter's reservations, but I do think there is a case for discussing it - lets face it many people ARE in favour of it including, I suspect, some politicians and judges.

 

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View Bexter's Profile Bexter Flag By the Sea 19 Dec 03 11.04am Send a Private Message to Bexter Add Bexter as a friend

you can't kill people just to save money!
if they ever reintroduced it i'd be thoroughly disguisted. yuk. and how would you favour killing them? rope round neck? lethal injection which can take many attempts? or fry 'em up good and proper til their eyes pop out?! i feel sick

 

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View Meerkat 2's Profile Meerkat 2 Flag 1957 19 Dec 03 11.14am Send a Private Message to Meerkat 2 Add Meerkat 2 as a friend

Quote Bexter at 19 Dec 2003 11:04am

you can't kill people just to save money!


Why not, the rail operators seem to get away with it?

 

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View jcreedy's Profile jcreedy Flag 19 Dec 03 11.15am Send a Private Message to jcreedy Add jcreedy as a friend

Can we kill off the royals then? It'd be a much better way of saving taxpayers money

Seriously though, people like Huntley deserve a harder punishment than just being locked up for the rest of his life and if the families of Holly and Jessica wanted him dead then fair enough in my opinion, but as Bexter has said, there's plenty of cases where 'guilty' people aren't guilty.

 


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View Glazed&Confuzed's Profile Glazed&Confuzed Flag London 19 Dec 03 11.22am Send a Private Message to Glazed&Confuzed Add Glazed&Confuzed as a friend

We're not adult enough for Death Penalties. It doesn't work in the US and never has.

Look at George W Bush?

Too many people are tried by the media and it just hypes people up. We are not in a position to throw stones.

A.rseholes like Hunley should rot in a cell forever.

 



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View Meerkat 2's Profile Meerkat 2 Flag 1957 19 Dec 03 11.27am Send a Private Message to Meerkat 2 Add Meerkat 2 as a friend

Quote Bexter at 19 Dec 2003 11:04am

how would you favour killing them? rope round neck? lethal injection which can take many attempts? or fry 'em up good and proper til their eyes pop out?!


The way I feel about Huntley I'd probably go for a wrecking ball.

 

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