Teachers' union lies about numbers who quit
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 Johnny Eagles  berlin 19 May 15 7.11pm |
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Teachers have been known to moan. Some, not mentioning any names, are keen to spread propaganda to further their own ends. Recently, a teachers' union made claims that 40% of new teachers were quitting. It made the news. It is untrue. It is more like 1 out of 10. Given that such lies are likely to put off people thinking of becoming a teacher, why would a union spread such propaganda? Surelynot because it cares more about throwing its weight around than education standards?
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ChuFukka  19 May 15 7.16pm |
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Well all I can say is that this comes as a complete surprise. Unions being disingenuous? Well I never...
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 25 May 15 8.56pm |
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people who work on London underground will only leave if they win the lottery. Every other job is a step down from their cushy overpaid number.
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| rednblue Lincolnshire 25 May 15 9.01pm |
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Fair's fair - politicians lie about everything...
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| hookoffthejab Thornton Heath 25 May 15 9.37pm |
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My wife has been a teacher for 15 years. I also know a lot of teachers socially. A full time teacher is working probably in excess of 50 hours per week for a Mickey Mouse salary. The issue is not really how many teachers may or may not be leaving but how many are off with stress. In my experience teachers don't actually moan that much but they have more reason to complain than bankers bleating about bonus caps. If teachers go on strike I'll be on the picket line with them and not just for my wife's sake but also the sake if her pupils
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| laddo london 25 May 15 9.39pm |
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Quote hookoffthejab at 25 May 2015 9.37pm
My wife has been a teacher for 15 years. I also know a lot of teachers socially. A full time teacher is working probably in excess of 50 hours per week for a Mickey Mouse salary. The issue is not really how many teachers may or may not be leaving but how many are off with stress. In my experience teachers don't actually moan that much but they have more reason to complain than bankers bleating about bonus caps. If teachers go on strike I'll be on the picket line with them and not just for my wife's sake but also the sake if her pupils Thank you.
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| SwalecliffeEagle Swalecliffe 25 May 15 10.48pm |
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I couldn't give a toss if they fabricated the numbers, I'm all for teachers getting a break. Teachers have had their pensions under attack, face untold abuse from urchins who know they can just play the victim, then there are the abusive parents who haven't got a bloody clue about anything, then there's the hours they spend marking which no one seems to account for when they harp on about long holidays...and now....oh, now...NOW they're meant to be scouting to see which little prick is a potential jihadist. Sex education has no place in the school, it's beyond absurd, and if parents aren't responsible for their children's fondness for beheading people then things really have gone down the pan. Basically, the undue stress that teachers are put under reflects the piss poor state of society these days. Edited by SwalecliffeEagle (25 May 2015 10.51pm)
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| titlechance 25 May 15 11.01pm |
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Quote hookoffthejab at 25 May 2015 9.37pm
My wife has been a teacher for 15 years. I also know a lot of teachers socially. A full time teacher is working probably in excess of 50 hours per week for a Mickey Mouse salary. The issue is not really how many teachers may or may not be leaving but how many are off with stress. In my experience teachers don't actually moan that much but they have more reason to complain than bankers bleating about bonus caps. If teachers go on strike I'll be on the picket line with them and not just for my wife's sake but also the sake if her pupils
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 26 May 15 9.09am |
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Quote Johnny Eagles at 19 May 2015 7.11pm
Teachers have been known to moan. Some, not mentioning any names, are keen to spread propaganda to further their own ends. Recently, a teachers' union made claims that 40% of new teachers were quitting. It made the news. It is untrue. It is more like 1 out of 10. Given that such lies are likely to put off people thinking of becoming a teacher, why would a union spread such propaganda? Surelynot because it cares more about throwing its weight around than education standards?
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| Hoof Hearted 26 May 15 11.16am | |
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Quote hookoffthejab at 25 May 2015 9.37pm
My wife has been a teacher for 15 years. I also know a lot of teachers socially. A full time teacher is working probably in excess of 50 hours per week for a Mickey Mouse salary. The issue is not really how many teachers may or may not be leaving but how many are off with stress. In my experience teachers don't actually moan that much but they have more reason to complain than bankers bleating about bonus caps. If teachers go on strike I'll be on the picket line with them and not just for my wife's sake but also the sake if her pupils
I'll bet she's on at least close to £30K unless she's a teaching assistant or a very junior teacher at an infants school. Add in the holidays and pension entitlement (which is still miles better than your average Joe gets, if he gets one at all) and your wife has nothing to complain about really. This DoE notification shows the salaries for teachers... doesn't seem to be "Mickey Mouse" to me? Edited by Hoof Hearted (26 May 2015 11.33am)
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| Red-Blue-Yellow Surrey 26 May 15 1.12pm |
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Quote Hoof Hearted at 26 May 2015 11.16am
Quote hookoffthejab at 25 May 2015 9.37pm
My wife has been a teacher for 15 years. I also know a lot of teachers socially. A full time teacher is working probably in excess of 50 hours per week for a Mickey Mouse salary. The issue is not really how many teachers may or may not be leaving but how many are off with stress. In my experience teachers don't actually moan that much but they have more reason to complain than bankers bleating about bonus caps. If teachers go on strike I'll be on the picket line with them and not just for my wife's sake but also the sake if her pupils
I'll bet she's on at least close to £30K unless she's a teaching assistant or a very junior teacher at an infants school. Add in the holidays and pension entitlement (which is still miles better than your average Joe gets, if he gets one at all) and your wife has nothing to complain about really. This DoE notification shows the salaries for teachers... doesn't seem to be "Mickey Mouse" to me? Edited by Hoof Hearted (26 May 2015 11.33am)
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| dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 26 May 15 2.06pm |
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Quote hookoffthejab at 25 May 2015 9.37pm
My wife has been a teacher for 15 years. I also know a lot of teachers socially. A full time teacher is working probably in excess of 50 hours per week for a Mickey Mouse salary. The issue is not really how many teachers may or may not be leaving but how many are off with stress. In my experience teachers don't actually moan that much but they have more reason to complain than bankers bleating about bonus caps. If teachers go on strike I'll be on the picket line with them and not just for my wife's sake but also the sake if her pupils
You will note the title of the DoE web page begins competitive salary and great benefits, not a mention of a mouse, Mickey or otherwise. Secondly leave and get a better job if there is one ? No one is forcing her to be teacher and have twelvty million paid holidays a year plus a nice salary. Another food for thought, when your buddies in the teaching profession go on strike, do they stop to think about the cost of childcare for working parents, or those that lose a days pay for having to stay at home. I’m guessing the answer is DILLIGAF. Finally the basic salary of a qualified teacher is according the link £36000 P.A. just as a comparison, how would you like to spend 6 months in a desert getting shot at, constantly going down with Diarrhoea and vomiting due to the sh1thole your working in. Having no time off, working from 0600 until midnight, getting s*** food (when you can eat) and the only contact with friends and family or loved ones is via a dodgy internet connection or sat phone, and all for the princley sum of £21,000 P.A. Because that’s what a Pte soldier in the British Army is paid, so next time your bleating about £36000 a year for sitting in a cushy school office think about it for a while, it’s not so bad is it ? Sorry Hoof just seen your link same as mine, but it makes my piss boil when teachers whinge about working conditions and stuff.
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