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View rawpalace05's Profile rawpalace05 Flag Saltdean 04 Jul 15 11.09am Send a Private Message to rawpalace05 Add rawpalace05 as a friend

Ei up all.

I hope you're all doing well!

I have just moved down to the coast (full of scum) and would really like a Kayak or Canoe!

Despite having done much Kayaking as a kid I've no idea about the different types available (sure, moulded, fibreglass, wood, single, double, sit in/on) and would appreciate some advice from you decent folk!

Main use will be sea (do 'sea kayaks' have a different design/need to be certain materials?) and most of that will be for fishing (not far out). However, possibly the odd maizey river trip too but guessing anything sea worthy will handle rivers ok (?)

Nothing too serious at this stage, am looking on eBay, ideally circa £100 or less.

The plan was just to get a standard cheap kayak, but my mate laughed and said 'bit dangerous, where will you put your fishing stuff and your rod when getting in/out". Well I'd planned on a backpack and a rod (slung over shoulder-maybe 4 strips of beading in front of deck to hold a tackle box once in).

These are dirt cheap, so lower risk purchase and if I can master fishing from it then nicely versatile as a sportyer option for river paddling.

The other option I'm keen on (but more money) due to their possible versatility and so I can take my partner/a fishing buddy, is a Canadian open canoe, but no idea if they can go in the sea?

In an ideal and more financially permitting world id get a proper fishing sea kayak, a two man open canoe AND a sports kayak!!

For now I'm just after something cheap and wondered what are the main do's and don'ts with these things?

Sorry for the ramble, I hope it makes some kind of sense

Thanks in advance!

Raw


 


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Hoof Hearted 04 Jul 15 11.15am

Will you need to be warm?

If so go for the canoe...... you cannot have your kayak and heat it.

 

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View rawpalace05's Profile rawpalace05 Flag Saltdean 04 Jul 15 12.02pm Send a Private Message to rawpalace05 Add rawpalace05 as a friend

Quote Hoof Hearted at 04 Jul 2015 11.15am

Will you need to be warm?

If so go for the canoe...... you cannot have your kayak and heat it.


Terrible! I love it (now please don't turn into one of THOSE threads!)

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1/6/2010.a new era.we made it everyone!!!lets get the ball rolling for another 105 years of proud history.thank you cpfc2010.

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 04 Jul 15 12.18pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Quote rawpalace05 at 04 Jul 2015 11.09am

I have just moved down to the coast (full of scum) and would really like a Kayak or Canoe!

I live on the south coast and NO "Scum" where I reside ! Some rather salubrious private estates where some well known figures have nice properties.

I have of course been to my local beach and witnessed people enjoying themselves on kayaks indeed i know two sets of friends in the area who have them and only went out on them the other day.


 

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View exiled eagle's Profile exiled eagle Flag Southampton 04 Jul 15 2.03pm Send a Private Message to exiled eagle Add exiled eagle as a friend

Willo
Do you live in Poole

 

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Quote exiled eagle at 04 Jul 2015 2.03pm

Willo
Do you live in Poole

No not Poole. I live approx halfway between Brighton and Bognor Regis.Only been here since end of November last year.


 

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View eagle52's Profile eagle52 Flag Shirley,Croydon 04 Jul 15 2.12pm Send a Private Message to eagle52 Add eagle52 as a friend

I've used canoes in Canada on lakes a fair bit. They are very difficult to paddle when on your own without having to worry about the pull of the tide in the sea. Dedicated fishing kayaks are available in this country now, with rod holders etc but do not come cheap.I think you'll have to up your budget to be safe. I've had a few scrapes in small fishing boats at sea and it's certainly not funny when things start to go wrong.
Good luck but above all, be safe.

 

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Quote exiled eagle at 04 Jul 2015 2.03pm

Willo
Do you live in Poole


I bet Willo lives in Sandbanks. His neighbours include Harry Redknapp, Denise Van Outen and Willo's drinking buddy Englebert Humperdink

 


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Quote rawpalace05 at 04 Jul 2015 11.09am

Ei up all.

I hope you're all doing well!

I have just moved down to the coast (full of scum) and would really like a Kayak or Canoe!

Despite having done much Kayaking as a kid I've no idea about the different types available (sure, moulded, fibreglass, wood, single, double, sit in/on) and would appreciate some advice from you decent folk!

Main use will be sea (do 'sea kayaks' have a different design/need to be certain materials?) and most of that will be for fishing (not far out). However, possibly the odd maizey river trip too but guessing anything sea worthy will handle rivers ok (?)

Nothing too serious at this stage, am looking on eBay, ideally circa £100 or less.

The plan was just to get a standard cheap kayak, but my mate laughed and said 'bit dangerous, where will you put your fishing stuff and your rod when getting in/out". Well I'd planned on a backpack and a rod (slung over shoulder-maybe 4 strips of beading in front of deck to hold a tackle box once in).

These are dirt cheap, so lower risk purchase and if I can master fishing from it then nicely versatile as a sportyer option for river paddling.

The other option I'm keen on (but more money) due to their possible versatility and so I can take my partner/a fishing buddy, is a Canadian open canoe, but no idea if they can go in the sea?

In an ideal and more financially permitting world id get a proper fishing sea kayak, a two man open canoe AND a sports kayak!!

For now I'm just after something cheap and wondered what are the main do's and don'ts with these things?

Sorry for the ramble, I hope it makes some kind of sense

Thanks in advance!

Raw


If you are going onto the ocean, even if it is in Poole Harbour, get a kayak. A canoe is great from a river and for relatively sheltered lakes, but it is not great for open water. You can paddle on flat water but if the wind picks up you are going to have a devil of a job going anywhere, assuming you don't capsize.

I would get a kayak designed for fishing. Most regular sea kayaks are designed to be at their most stable when they are moving, and their primary stability is often compromised as a result. As others have pointed out, they are much easier to control solo, and they don't let spray into the boat which also makes them safer.

Also, get a decent life jacket, an emergency light and a whistle, and attach them to it.

BTW I worked as a canoe guide here in the U.S., and I used to do a ton of kayaking too.

 


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View blanksight's Profile blanksight Flag Thornton heath 04 Jul 15 3.59pm Send a Private Message to blanksight Add blanksight as a friend

qualified Canoe and Kayak coach here-

Canoe's are probably a more useful, better vessel, Kayaks are better for adrenaline type stuff, sharp movement etc.

But that's generalising hugely, there are loads of both types of boat.

 


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Soon Bald Eagle Flag Aalesund 04 Jul 15 4.04pm

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This a great way to get the right kayak for you.
And why not build one your self.
There are Kayaks even designed for fishing like the Great Auk

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just check it out, but remember safety first!

Good luck !

 

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View Canterbury Palace's Profile Canterbury Palace Flag Whitstable 04 Jul 15 4.43pm Send a Private Message to Canterbury Palace Add Canterbury Palace as a friend

I don't know too much about kayaks or canoes but I have rowed in regattas in Worthing, Eastbourne and Bexhill and would say to take the safety advice seriously as the water gets very choppy down there!

 


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