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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 14 Aug 15 8.30pm

Quote legaleagle at 14 Aug 2015 8.23pm

According to the BMA:

"Recent research suggests that people coming from overseas to receive healthcare in the UK actually provide valuable revenue for the NHS. A study by the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine and University of York5 shows that in 2010-11,18 NHS trusts made £43 million in combined income from overseas visitors paying for their treatment. In this 12 month period, 52,000 people who entered the UK declared that seeking healthcare was the primary reason for their visit. By contrast, the Government’s latest research estimates that the number of people coming to the UK for free healthcare is currently between 5,000-20,000 per year. By this measure, the number paying for treatment is more than double that receiving it free, meaning that the NHS is very likely to be making a net profit from treating non-UK patients."

According to the BBC:

NHS "health tourism" includes "students, workers on visas, tourists, immigrants, expats popping back to see their old GP and yes "health tourists".

There are arrangements to reclaim those costs from countries in the European Economic Area and from countries like Australia and New Zealand".


So what you're saying is we should somewhat ignorantly blame it on the foreigners again?

 

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legaleagle Flag 14 Aug 15 8.32pm

Its time you stopped being so naive and realised everything and anything is the fault of foreigners,including the fact its rained this week and I got caught out without an umbrella.

Edited by legaleagle (14 Aug 2015 8.39pm)

 

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leggedstruggle Flag Croydon 14 Aug 15 8.57pm

Quote legaleagle at 14 Aug 2015 8.23pm

According to the BMA:

"Recent research suggests that people coming from overseas to receive healthcare in the UK actually provide valuable revenue for the NHS. A study by the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine and University of York5 shows that in 2010-11,18 NHS trusts made £43 million in combined income from overseas visitors paying for their treatment. In this 12 month period, 52,000 people who entered the UK declared that seeking healthcare was the primary reason for their visit. By contrast, the Government’s latest research estimates that the number of people coming to the UK for free healthcare is currently between 5,000-20,000 per year. By this measure, the number paying for treatment is more than double that receiving it free, meaning that the NHS is very likely to be making a net profit from treating non-UK patients."

According to the BBC:

NHS "health tourism" includes "students, workers on visas, tourists, immigrants, expats popping back to see their old GP and yes "health tourists".

There are arrangements to reclaim those costs from countries in the European Economic Area and from countries like Australia and New Zealand".

Errr, well shouldn't we be taking the money form the paying customers and telling those trying to get it for free to bugger off? Then the NHS will be making a bigger profit.

(PS: amazed at a Nick/Legal spat!)

 


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legaleagle Flag 14 Aug 15 9.19pm

Um,Nick and I weren't having a spat.We were sympatico

The point perhaps being in my post you responded to that the so called "major problem" of "health tourism" isn't a "major issue" facing the country and a goodly proportion of what's called "health tourism" isn't.

In 2010,"health tourists" spent an estimated £219m on hotels, restaurants, shopping and transport in the UK.

Things like not taking greater steps to discourage smoking and drug abuse,and cuts to social services are a far far greater "drain" on the NHS then "health tourism".

The Department of Health estimated that Austria’s health service spent 43 times more on treating British travellers than the NHS did on those from Austria. Germany, which is visited by 2 million Brits every year, had to pay 34 times more than the NHS – £22m compared to £643,000.

It interesting that the OP in their support for the NHS only singles out something involving foreigners for a thread.


Edited by legaleagle (14 Aug 2015 9.20pm)

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 14 Aug 15 9.21pm

Quote legaleagle at 14 Aug 2015 9.19pm

Um,Nick and I weren't having a spat.We were sympatico

The point perhaps being in my post you responded to that the so called "major problem" of "health tourism" isn't a "major issue" facing the country and a goodly proportion of what's called "health tourism" isn't.

In 2010,"health tourists" spent an estimated £219m on hotels, restaurants, shopping and transport in the UK.

Things like not taking greater steps to discourage smoking and drug abuse,and cuts to social services are a far far greater "drain" on the NHS then "health tourism".

The Department of Health estimated that Austria’s health service spent 43 times more on treating British travellers than the NHS did on those from Austria. Germany, which is visited by 2 million Brits every year, had to pay 34 times more than the NHS – £22m compared to £643,000.

It interesting that the OP in their support for the NHS only singles out something involving foreigners for a thread.


Edited by legaleagle (14 Aug 2015 9.20pm)


We should call Legged and fed up scapegoat and scaremonger.

 

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and please do not quote the BBC in this thread. They are already a busted flush and have lots all credibility

 


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Quote legaleagle at 14 Aug 2015 8.23pm

According to the BMA:

"Recent research suggests that people coming from overseas to receive healthcare in the UK actually provide valuable revenue for the NHS. A study by the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine and University of York5 shows that in 2010-11,18 NHS trusts made £43 million in combined income from overseas visitors paying for their treatment. In this 12 month period, 52,000 people who entered the UK declared that seeking healthcare was the primary reason for their visit. By contrast, the Government’s latest research estimates that the number of people coming to the UK for free healthcare is currently between 5,000-20,000 per year. By this measure, the number paying for treatment is more than double that receiving it free, meaning that the NHS is very likely to be making a net profit from treating non-UK patients."

According to the BBC:

NHS "health tourism" includes "students, workers on visas, tourists, immigrants, expats popping back to see their old GP and yes "health tourists".

There are arrangements to reclaim those costs from countries in the European Economic Area and from countries like Australia and New Zealand".


They have paid into the system most of their lives.Whats the problem with that.

 


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Quote nickgusset at 14 Aug 2015 7.23pm

Quote leggedstruggle at 14 Aug 2015 6.29pm

You know Nick, I want the NHS to stay a public institution. But I would like it run efficiently and for the benefit of British people. Some peripheral areas perhaps could be farmed out to private facilities. It should stop being regarded as a totally sacred cow with any change being resisted and with the answer to any problem being throw more money at it.


What percentage of NHS nurses and doctors are immigrants?
They're propping the NHS up.


Where's the drive for nurses training in the UK? Am I correct when I say we need midwives? Overseas workers are filling gaps because we haven't got the people to fill them.

Rightly or wrongly, being a nurse involves getting a degree, which in turn equals fees and student loans. Many people don't want such a debt burden, especially if they want a house too.


This is a great book if your interested...

And you're a teacher .... heaven help us....you are not even literate

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 14 Aug 15 9.55pm

Quote OldFella at 14 Aug 2015 9.51pm

Quote nickgusset at 14 Aug 2015 7.23pm

Quote leggedstruggle at 14 Aug 2015 6.29pm

You know Nick, I want the NHS to stay a public institution. But I would like it run efficiently and for the benefit of British people. Some peripheral areas perhaps could be farmed out to private facilities. It should stop being regarded as a totally sacred cow with any change being resisted and with the answer to any problem being throw more money at it.


What percentage of NHS nurses and doctors are immigrants?
They're propping the NHS up.


Where's the drive for nurses training in the UK? Am I correct when I say we need midwives? Overseas workers are filling gaps because we haven't got the people to fill them.

Rightly or wrongly, being a nurse involves getting a degree, which in turn equals fees and student loans. Many people don't want such a debt burden, especially if they want a house too.


This is a great book if your interested...

And you're a teacher .... heaven help us....you are not even literate


Told you, school holidays.
You forgot a full stop and ellipses are generally 3 dots not 4, you great big f***ing hypocrite

 

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legaleagle Flag 14 Aug 15 10.03pm

Quote elgrande at 14 Aug 2015 9.47pm

Quote legaleagle at 14 Aug 2015 8.23pm

According to the BMA:

"Recent research suggests that people coming from overseas to receive healthcare in the UK actually provide valuable revenue for the NHS. A study by the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine and University of York5 shows that in 2010-11,18 NHS trusts made £43 million in combined income from overseas visitors paying for their treatment. In this 12 month period, 52,000 people who entered the UK declared that seeking healthcare was the primary reason for their visit. By contrast, the Government’s latest research estimates that the number of people coming to the UK for free healthcare is currently between 5,000-20,000 per year. By this measure, the number paying for treatment is more than double that receiving it free, meaning that the NHS is very likely to be making a net profit from treating non-UK patients."

According to the BBC:

NHS "health tourism" includes "students, workers on visas, tourists, immigrants, expats popping back to see their old GP and yes "health tourists".

There are arrangements to reclaim those costs from countries in the European Economic Area and from countries like Australia and New Zealand".


They have paid into the system most of their lives.Whats the problem with that.


I wasn't saying that was any kind of a problem

 

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legaleagle Flag 14 Aug 15 10.06pm

Quote PalazioVecchio at 14 Aug 2015 9.44pm

and please do not quote the BBC in this thread. They are already a busted flush and have lots all credibility


Only problem with your "busted flush" of an analysis is that what they are quoted as saying in this thread is factually correct.But, that's probably not a problem for anyone simply bent on slagging the Beeb.

 

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leggedstruggle Flag Croydon 14 Aug 15 10.43pm

Quote legaleagle at 14 Aug 2015 9.19pm

Um,Nick and I weren't having a spat.We were sympatico

The point perhaps being in my post you responded to that the so called "major problem" of "health tourism" isn't a "major issue" facing the country and a goodly proportion of what's called "health tourism" isn't.

In 2010,"health tourists" spent an estimated £219m on hotels, restaurants, shopping and transport in the UK.

Things like not taking greater steps to discourage smoking and drug abuse,and cuts to social services are a far far greater "drain" on the NHS then "health tourism".

The Department of Health estimated that Austria’s health service spent 43 times more on treating British travellers than the NHS did on those from Austria. Germany, which is visited by 2 million Brits every year, had to pay 34 times more than the NHS – £22m compared to £643,000.

It interesting that the OP in their support for the NHS only singles out something involving foreigners for a thread.

Edited by legaleagle (14 Aug 2015 9.20pm)

Dear oh dear, the cuttlefish-ink is certainly spurting. The government put the cost of health tourism at around £2 billion a year. But that is almost certainly a huge underestimate as many parts of the NHS refuse to even check for eligibility - in case the likes of legal call them racists and fascists no doubt.

 


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