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essetwentyone london 14 Mar 16 9.47am
I know they got a lot of money for him but why did Chelsea let Lukaku go while they have hung on to Bamford who again looked powderpuff for Norwich on Saturday apart from 1 long distance shot? Lukaku always looked the part at West Brom and carried on at Everton - he was brilliant against Chelsea this weekend and that first goal was magnificent. i wouldn't be surprised if Real Madrid come looking for him whereas Bamford will go down with Norwich and end up in another Championship team. Whoever makes those decisions at Chelsea should be shot !! Wish we'd have got Lukaku instead of Bamford !!!!
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essetwentyone

london 14 Mar 16 9.47am

I know they got a lot of money for him but why did Chelsea let Lukaku go while they have hung on to Bamford who again looked powderpuff for Norwich on Saturday apart from 1 long distance shot?
Lukaku always looked the part at West Brom and carried on at Everton - he was brilliant against Chelsea this weekend and that first goal was magnificent. i wouldn't be surprised if Real Madrid come looking for him whereas Bamford will go down with Norwich and end up in another Championship team. Whoever makes those decisions at Chelsea should be shot !! Wish we'd have got Lukaku instead of Bamford !!!!

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jamiemartin721 Reading 14 Mar 16 10.08am
Well Everton did pay something like 28m for him, which might have figured into Chelsea's thinking. I don't think anyone will be shelling out that for Bamford. A bit of a calculated risk by Everton, but f**k me its paid off, as his current level of scoring puts him in a very elite top five, all of whom had amazing careers. I suspect he might not be at Everton next season. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 14 Mar 16 10.08am

Well Everton did pay something like 28m for him, which might have figured into Chelsea's thinking. I don't think anyone will be shelling out that for Bamford.

A bit of a calculated risk by Everton, but f**k me its paid off, as his current level of scoring puts him in a very elite top five, all of whom had amazing careers.

I suspect he might not be at Everton next season.

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Stuk Top half 14 Mar 16 10.15am
Lukaku cost them �20m as an 18 year old, Bamford cost them �1.5m as a 19 year old. Which one can you afford to string along or pay them wages to not play for you? Optimistic as ever
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Stuk

Top half 14 Mar 16 10.15am

Lukaku cost them �20m as an 18 year old, Bamford cost them �1.5m as a 19 year old.

Which one can you afford to string along or pay them wages to not play for you?

Optimistic as ever

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 14 Mar 16 10.18am
Originally posted by Stuk Lukaku cost them �20m as an 18 year old, Bamford cost them �1.5m as a 19 year old. Which one can you afford to string along or pay them wages to not play for you? Don't think it was as much as that. Don't know for sure but I have a feeling it was �10 Mill + Add-ons, the total being �18 Mill. Still, a hefty sum for a teenager and he was a Villas-Boas signing.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 14 Mar 16 10.18am

Originally posted by Stuk

Lukaku cost them �20m as an 18 year old, Bamford cost them �1.5m as a 19 year old.

Which one can you afford to string along or pay them wages to not play for you?

Don't think it was as much as that. Don't know for sure but I have a feeling it was �10 Mill + Add-ons, the total being �18 Mill. Still, a hefty sum for a teenager and he was a Villas-Boas signing.

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andyg york 14 Mar 16 11.50am
[Link] Check out this 3 second clip of Bamford this weekend. Near the bottom of the page Edit: autocorrect Edited by andyg (14 Mar 2016 11.53am)
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Check out this 3 second clip of Bamford this weekend. Near the bottom of the page

Edit: autocorrect

Edited by andyg (14 Mar 2016 11.53am)

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jamiemartin721 Reading 14 Mar 16 11.52am
Originally posted by Willo Don't think it was as much as that. Don't know for sure but I have a feeling it was �10 Mill + Add-ons, the total being �18 Mill. Still, a hefty sum for a teenager and he was a Villas-Boas signing. Benefit of hindsight, even at 20m he'd have turned out to be a great signing (and I'm pretty sure whatever the add ons, he'd have earned them out on loan). Then again, Chelsea actually make a lot of money off of loan players, far more than they spend on them. Certainly, when Everton came offering 28m for a player who had barely kicked a ball for them, they were probably more than tempted. It was a massive expenditure by Everton. I suspect him to end up being sold in the 50m plus bracket. Which probably will turn out to be great business for every team in the chain (18m, sold for 28m, sold for 50+m). "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 14 Mar 16 11.52am

Originally posted by Willo

Benefit of hindsight, even at 20m he'd have turned out to be a great signing (and I'm pretty sure whatever the add ons, he'd have earned them out on loan).

Then again, Chelsea actually make a lot of money off of loan players, far more than they spend on them.

Certainly, when Everton came offering 28m for a player who had barely kicked a ball for them, they were probably more than tempted. It was a massive expenditure by Everton.

I suspect him to end up being sold in the 50m plus bracket. Which probably will turn out to be great business for every team in the chain (18m, sold for 28m, sold for 50+m).

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essetwentyone london 14 Mar 16 12.06pm
Whichever way you look at it Chelsea would love to have Lukaku now and made a mistake selling him even for 28 million. I know Bamford is at amuch lower price level but I just don't see why they hang on to him - what value would you put on him now? From Bamford's point of view what position would he be in now if he had signed for a smaller club than Chelsea and had regular football?
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essetwentyone

london 14 Mar 16 12.06pm

Whichever way you look at it Chelsea would love to have Lukaku now and made a mistake selling him even for 28 million.
I know Bamford is at amuch lower price level but I just don't see why they hang on to him - what value would you put on him now?
From Bamford's point of view what position would he be in now if he had signed for a smaller club than Chelsea and had regular football?

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 14 Mar 16 12.12pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 Certainly, when Everton came offering 28m for a player who had barely kicked a ball for them, they were probably more than tempted. It was a massive expenditure by Everton. At Chelsea he had to compete with Drogba,Torres,Ba, Eto'o,Sturridge,Kalou etc. At the time he was a bit "Hot and cold" and not the best at holding the ball up. Drogba was his hero and they keep in regular contact.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 14 Mar 16 12.12pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Certainly, when Everton came offering 28m for a player who had barely kicked a ball for them, they were probably more than tempted. It was a massive expenditure by Everton.

At Chelsea he had to compete with Drogba,Torres,Ba, Eto'o,Sturridge,Kalou etc.
At the time he was a bit "Hot and cold" and not the best at holding the ball up.
Drogba was his hero and they keep in regular contact.

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Stuk Top half 14 Mar 16 12.16pm
Originally posted by essetwentyone Whichever way you look at it Chelsea would love to have Lukaku now and made a mistake selling him even for 28 million. I know Bamford is at amuch lower price level but I just don't see why they hang on to him - what value would you put on him now? From Bamford's point of view what position would he be in now if he had signed for a smaller club than Chelsea and had regular football? They would love him now, maybe Sturridge and Moses too but that's hindsight and a lot of managers, with a lot of differing opinions, have come and gone in the mean time. Hanging on to Bamford is making them money. Someone else is paying his wages while us, Norwich and Boro have all paid Chelsea loan fees for him. As for where the player would be... probably with better stats but less money. Optimistic as ever
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Stuk

Top half 14 Mar 16 12.16pm

Originally posted by essetwentyone

They would love him now, maybe Sturridge and Moses too but that's hindsight and a lot of managers, with a lot of differing opinions, have come and gone in the mean time.

Hanging on to Bamford is making them money. Someone else is paying his wages while us, Norwich and Boro have all paid Chelsea loan fees for him. As for where the player would be... probably with better stats but less money.

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Qwijibo Bournemouth 14 Mar 16 11.27pm
Originally posted by Willo At Chelsea he had to compete with Drogba,Torres,Ba, Eto'o,Sturridge,Kalou etc. At the time he was a bit "Hot and cold" and not the best at holding the ball up. Drogba was his hero and they keep in regular contact. Apart from sturridge, all those listed at that time were in their prime or established beyond their prime. Mourinho has never had a 5 year plan, but to be fair, managers of his stature are always so dependent on immediate success that they don't have the security to build for a future. Sturridge is the exception that proves the point: as soon as he left he became a superstar. What value would a fit Sturridge and Lukaku be to Chelsea now? All they had to do was actually believe in their youngsters rather than simply stockpile them to comply with quotas and FFP. I don't think Bamford is relevant in this discussion: he's never going to be a first choice Chelsea player.
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Qwijibo

Bournemouth 14 Mar 16 11.27pm

Originally posted by Willo

Apart from sturridge, all those listed at that time were in their prime or established beyond their prime. Mourinho has never had a 5 year plan, but to be fair, managers of his stature are always so dependent on immediate success that they don't have the security to build for a future. Sturridge is the exception that proves the point: as soon as he left he became a superstar. What value would a fit Sturridge and Lukaku be to Chelsea now? All they had to do was actually believe in their youngsters rather than simply stockpile them to comply with quotas and FFP.

I don't think Bamford is relevant in this discussion: he's never going to be a first choice Chelsea player.

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Stuk Top half 14 Mar 16 11.46pm
Originally posted by Qwijibo Apart from sturridge, all those listed at that time were in their prime or established beyond their prime. Mourinho has never had a 5 year plan, but to be fair, managers of his stature are always so dependent on immediate success that they don't have the security to build for a future. Sturridge is the exception that proves the point: as soon as he left he became a superstar. What value would a fit Sturridge and Lukaku be to Chelsea now? All they had to do was actually believe in their youngsters rather than simply stockpile them to comply with quotas and FFP. I don't think Bamford is relevant in this discussion: he's never going to be a first choice Chelsea player. Man City were just as profligate with Sturridge. You could see he had it even back then and his performances backed it up. Optimistic as ever
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Stuk

Top half 14 Mar 16 11.46pm

Originally posted by Qwijibo

I don't think Bamford is relevant in this discussion: he's never going to be a first choice Chelsea player.

Man City were just as profligate with Sturridge.

You could see he had it even back then and his performances backed it up.

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Jamesrichards8 15 Mar 16 12.01am
If Sturbridge could keep fit he'd rival aguero for ability and impact. Potential to be the leagues best striker. Sad When you�re knocked on your back and your life�s a flop...
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If Sturbridge could keep fit he'd rival aguero for ability and impact. Potential to be the leagues best striker. Sad

When you�re knocked on your back and your life�s a flop...

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