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View SW19 CPFC's Profile SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 05 Feb 21 5.06pm Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

Last update from Parish was that the major remaining hurdle to getting started was Sainsburys holding out for unrealistic money for the little bit of land they own that we need.

Parish made it pretty clear that unless Sainsburys got sensible with their valuation, he would have to go back to Croydon Council and ask them to issue a Compulsory Purchase Order (CPO), taking the land from Sainsburys for whatever the Council feels is a fair price.

The Mayor of London gave the stand the green light, so it would be in the public interest for a CPO to be used if Sainsburys won't lower the asking price.

Palace know this. Sainsburys know this. They both know that the other knows it too, so I'd imagine they are just finishing their game of bluff over the actual figure.

This

Sainsbury is the issue.

As has been said many times before.

Parish insinuated that he may need to 'work with the council' to sort the impasse, I decode that as getting the council to issue Sainsbury's a CPO, which would be delicious as they've spent all this time pissing us about.

 


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Online Flag The garden of England 05 Feb 21 5.17pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

This

Sainsbury is the issue.

As has been said many times before.

Parish insinuated that he may need to 'work with the council' to sort the impasse, I decode that as getting the council to issue Sainsbury's a CPO, which would be delicious as they've spent all this time pissing us about.

Anyone know what the figures are and how far apart.
If it's a mill or two then is it really a problem.
We are a PL club.

 

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View martin2412's Profile martin2412 Flag Living The Dream 05 Feb 21 5.49pm Send a Private Message to martin2412 Add martin2412 as a friend

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Yep. All that CGI showing the academy being built is pretty impressive. Almost looks like it's real

What's the thread title

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 05 Feb 21 6.36pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by martin2412

What's the thread title


When has that ever stopped posters from going 'off piste' to use a Willo term. {Doombear - write out 50 times "I must not use Willo terms"

 

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View TheBigToePunt's Profile TheBigToePunt Flag 05 Feb 21 6.47pm Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Yep. All that CGI showing the academy being built is pretty impressive. Almost looks like it's real

You beat me to it!

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 05 Feb 21 6.57pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by martin2412

What's the thread title

Oh dear.

Maybe someone will explain to you a little later

 

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View joe_cpfc's Profile joe_cpfc Flag Basingstoke 05 Feb 21 6.57pm Send a Private Message to joe_cpfc Add joe_cpfc as a friend

Its literally the corner of Sainsbury's car park thats holding it up as stated above.

Originally posted by martin2412
I really can't believe that people still believe that Parish ever had any intention of going through with this.

I'm waiting for the next time he starts to get a bit of flak so he can then bring out another CGI for you all to gush over, and start fawning over him again.

The bloke's a PR man. He knows how to pull the wool over your eyes.

 

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View TheBigToePunt's Profile TheBigToePunt Flag 05 Feb 21 6.58pm Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Originally posted by doombear


Isn't there also a question of a delay whilst new housing is built/provided for those in the cul-de-sac we also need or have I got that wrong?

You're correct, but as Parish specifically cited sainsburys as the last main hurdle I presume he's confident the replacement houses can be achieved. We've certainly agreed and signed the post-planning permission legal agreement which addresses the issue.

My take (and I work in planning) is that finding land, obtaining planning permission and delivering even a relatively small number of replacement houses in the local area won't be quick, easy or cheap. I presume the club put a land agent to work on the task the second we got planning permission, and I'd hope progress would have been made by now. They might have bought the appropriate site under a separate name to cpfc so that the price didn't get inflated.

A poster called Dorking is also a planner, and he or she was following the planning application in far more detail than me. Hopefully they'll be along shortly to tidy up my messy answer!

 

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View martin2412's Profile martin2412 Flag Living The Dream 05 Feb 21 7.17pm Send a Private Message to martin2412 Add martin2412 as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Oh dear.

Maybe someone will explain to you a little later

How about you explain it to me now instead of talking in patronising riddles like you always do.

I would like nothing more than you to say 'I told you so' but you'll only be able to do that when construction starts, and mark my words, that ain't happening any time soon.

 

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View TheBigToePunt's Profile TheBigToePunt Flag 05 Feb 21 7.41pm Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Originally posted by martin2412

How about you explain it to me now instead of talking in patronising riddles like you always do.

I would like nothing more than you to say 'I told you so' but you'll only be able to do that when construction starts, and mark my words, that ain't happening any time soon.

I cant speak for maple but certainly the question I would ask you is: given that Parish has delivered what he said all along was the main priority, namely the academy, what makes you so doubtful that he can deliver the new stand?

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 05 Feb 21 11.43pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by martin2412

How about you explain it to me now instead of talking in patronising riddles like you always do.

I would like nothing more than you to say 'I told you so' but you'll only be able to do that when construction starts, and mark my words, that ain't happening any time soon.

It wasn’t my post to explain. However I do believe that it was being pointed out, through the use of irony, that as promised and as stated above we were promised an Academy and we got, guess what, an Academy.

So no need for the bitter little digs at Parish.

 

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jeeagles Flag 06 Feb 21 9.29am

Originally posted by martin2412

How about you explain it to me now instead of talking in patronising riddles like you always do.

I would like nothing more than you to say 'I told you so' but you'll only be able to do that when construction starts, and mark my words, that ain't happening any time soon.

One of the planning conditions is that no work above the level of the existing stand is allowed to take place until 6 new dwelling have been completed (or words to a similar effect). Another states the club need to give 12 months notice to buy the houses on Wooderson Close so the council can rehome the people that live there.

Croydon Council's backhander (sorry S106) is £1m.

They had to jump through hoops with air quality, noise, and storm water assessments, and are having to review all the parking restrictions within a mile of the stadium (there's no where to park anywhere is there). For some reason a new cycle route has got to be included in the S106 as is that fashion now.

Despite huge positive the planners seemed to have filled their boots with this project and done everything possible to delay the potential benefits it brings. Blockers would be a better name for them.... particularly in Croydon as they seem to drive away development with stupid demands. Its the ultimate job for the useless power hungry civil servant.

Sainsbury's also remains an issue.

Fulham announced their plans to construct the Riverside stand, now costing £100m in 2008. Wimbledon took almost 30 years to find a new ground. Without strong political will, these projects drag on and on.

 

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