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glaziermart Flag 08 Sep 16 2.28pm

Some serious questions need to be asked about our training methods and overall conditioning. Forget the fact that Remy is injury prone, we have had a catologue of injuries since Pardew arrived. Wickham played regularly before he came to us, Cabaye was rarely injured, likewise Punch, plus Sako normally played most of the season when he was at Wolves.

I actually think it is caused by our poor preparation during pre-season. We are now more concerned with money spinning opportunities by playing games in the USA in quick succession rather than concentrating on fitness, and by the time we get back to England we only play a couple of friendlies and even then first team members are missing ( made worse by our Euro players returning late ) We seem to be trying to rush and push the players too quickly after the season has started, and getting so many soft tissue injuries. If we had a more organised focused pre-season more like the one we had two years ago with the intense altitude training, it would help us immensely

 

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citizensmudge Flag midlands 08 Sep 16 2.40pm

James Mcarthy is out for a month too reportedly so I think its more to do with being mentioned in the same sentence rather than the training regime!! I understand the management were going to look at the playing surfaces at the training ground to see whether they had an impact as I'm sure they were Desso based surfaces as well.

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 08 Sep 16 2.41pm

Wickham had injuries spells at Sunderland, Remy had injury problems at Chelsea. Its tricky to balance, the level of fitness required to play regular competitive football is pretty high - and what can be called an injury is often something most people would call 'too serious', but the problem is, when your performing at 'a very high level' the reality is that even a dead leg often is grounds for missing a game.

Leg and groin injurys are particually troublesome, because they mean you cannot exercise at all, meaning you might only be 'injured for a few weeks' but then spend another two weeks slowly ramping up your exercise regime in training.

Where as if you or I miss a week down the gym (hahhahahah) we can step back in and only notice its a bit more than usual. For an athlete a week without training can be two to three weeks to get fully back to full activity

 


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I wonder if we have invested in one of those cryo-chambers like Leicester seem to use?
I can't imagine (but I genuinely don't know) we have the top facilities at Palace but think that it would be worth investing in this kind of technology.
I agree with the OP in some ways: we haven't looked in peak physical condition overall for a while. We did seem to get a bit better over the course of the last two matches but our opposition teams have seemed to have a touch more sharpness about them than us.

 


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There is clearly a problem with injuries. Whether that's the surface or the methods we can't know as we don't work for the club. Last season we saw nearly our entire spine of the team out at some point. Something needs to change as we can't afford to miss our best players.

 

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bubble wrap Flag Carparks in South East London 08 Sep 16 2.46pm

I actually think we have been reasonably lucky with injuries compared to some clubs. Could be worse we could be at Arsenal.
Lets face it, If Delaney and Dann got injured at the same time we might struggle a little.

 

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citizensmudge Flag midlands 08 Sep 16 2.49pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

I wonder if we have invested in one of those cryo-chambers like Leicester seem to use?
I can't imagine (but I genuinely don't know) we have the top facilities at Palace but think that it would be worth investing in this kind of technology.
I agree with the OP in some ways: we haven't looked in peak physical condition overall for a while. We did seem to get a bit better over the course of the last two matches but our opposition teams have seemed to have a touch more sharpness about them than us.

They use one of the Toilet Cubicles and a bag of frozen peas at Beckenham apparently!!

 

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Originally posted by citizensmudge

James Mcarthy is out for a month too reportedly so I think its more to do with being mentioned in the same sentence rather than the training regime!! I understand the management were going to look at the playing surfaces at the training ground to see whether they had an impact as I'm sure they were Desso based surfaces as well.

No doubt someone will still try to blame Pardew for Everton players getting injured!

 




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Originally posted by bubble wrap

I actually think we have been reasonably lucky with injuries compared to some clubs. Could be worse we could be at Arsenal.
Lets face it, If Delaney and Dann got injured at the same time we might struggle a little.

These two tables suggest we are pretty average when it comes to injuries in premier league

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Originally posted by citizensmudge

They use one of the Toilet Cubicles and a bag of frozen peas at Beckenham apparently!!

Presumably stocked up with Petit Pois now.

 


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citizensmudge Flag midlands 08 Sep 16 2.59pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Presumably stocked up with Petit Pois now.

Cue any amount of French analogies now

 

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Originally posted by citizensmudge

They use one of the Toilet Cubicles and a bag of frozen peas at Beckenham apparently!!

There is absolutely no statistic based scientific evidence that shows that cryo-chambers are any more effective than an ice-pack.

So I would hope we do only have a toilet cubicle and a bag of peas as at least the players can have a good clear out while they're getting treated ;-)

Edited by tshepp897 (08 Sep 2016 3.08pm)

 


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