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Woolsy Essex 12 Dec 16 12.47pm
Hennessey Ward Delaney Dann Tomkins Zaha Ledley Cabaye Fryers McArthur Benteke Edited by Woolsy (12 Dec 2016 12.47pm) Edited by Woolsy (12 Dec 2016 1.13pm)
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Woolsy

Essex 12 Dec 16 12.47pm

Hennessey

Ward Delaney Dann Tomkins

Zaha Ledley Cabaye Fryers

McArthur

Benteke

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Edited by Woolsy (12 Dec 2016 1.13pm)

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bexleydave Barnehurst 12 Dec 16 1.11pm
Originally posted by Woolsy Hennessey Ward Delaney Dann Tomkins Fryers Ledley Cabaye Zaha McArthur Benteke Why is LB Fryers on the right wing and why is Zaha on the left? Neither of those changes look ideal to me. Bexley Dave Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing! "The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)
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bexleydave

Barnehurst 12 Dec 16 1.11pm

Originally posted by Woolsy

Hennessey

Ward Delaney Dann Tomkins

Fryers Ledley Cabaye Zaha

McArthur

Benteke

Why is LB Fryers on the right wing and why is Zaha on the left? Neither of those changes look ideal to me.

Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

"The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

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Woolsy Essex 12 Dec 16 1.14pm
Oops got the sides mixed up. Now changed. Can't bear to see another Townsend poor performance. At least Fryers can get a good cross in.
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Woolsy

Essex 12 Dec 16 1.14pm

Oops got the sides mixed up. Now changed.
Can't bear to see another Townsend poor performance. At least Fryers can get a good cross in.

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Mad4palace 12 Dec 16 1.37pm
Hennessey Tomkins - Dann - Delaney - Ward Zaha - McArthur - Cabaye - Townsend Ledley Benteke Pardew surely has to play McArthur in a deeper position simply due to the inept defensive performances of the rest of the midfield. I think Ledley is better going forward where his lack of athleticism is less exposed. Townsend probably keeps his spot by the sheer fact there is no one else who could come in, he has at least been better defensively since the Swansea defeat.
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Mad4palace

12 Dec 16 1.37pm

Hennessey
Tomkins - Dann - Delaney - Ward
Zaha - McArthur - Cabaye - Townsend
Ledley
Benteke

Pardew surely has to play McArthur in a deeper position simply due to the inept defensive performances of the rest of the midfield. I think Ledley is better going forward where his lack of athleticism is less exposed.

Townsend probably keeps his spot by the sheer fact there is no one else who could come in, he has at least been better defensively since the Swansea defeat.

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Kermit8 Hevon 12 Dec 16 1.45pm
Martyn Hinshelwood Cannon Young Sansom McArthur Thomas Zaha Benteke Wright Salako Oh my giddy aunt. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 12 Dec 16 1.45pm

Martyn

Hinshelwood Cannon Young Sansom

McArthur Thomas

Zaha Benteke Wright Salako

Oh my giddy aunt.

Big chest and massive boobs

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Username Horsham 12 Dec 16 2.59pm
Originally posted by Mad4palace Hennessey Tomkins - Dann - Delaney - Ward Zaha - McArthur - Cabaye - Townsend Ledley Benteke Pardew surely has to play McArthur in a deeper position simply due to the inept defensive performances of the rest of the midfield. I think Ledley is better going forward where his lack of athleticism is less exposed. Townsend probably keeps his spot by the sheer fact there is no one else who could come in, he has at least been better defensively since the Swansea defeat. That really doesn't make any sense. The further forward he plays, the more ground he has to cover. Southampton worked for Ledley because he sat very, very deep and just patrolled in front of the back four. Employee of the month is a good example of how someone can be both a winner and a loser at the same time.
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Horsham 12 Dec 16 2.59pm

Originally posted by Mad4palace

Hennessey
Tomkins - Dann - Delaney - Ward
Zaha - McArthur - Cabaye - Townsend
Ledley
Benteke

Pardew surely has to play McArthur in a deeper position simply due to the inept defensive performances of the rest of the midfield. I think Ledley is better going forward where his lack of athleticism is less exposed.

Townsend probably keeps his spot by the sheer fact there is no one else who could come in, he has at least been better defensively since the Swansea defeat.

That really doesn't make any sense. The further forward he plays, the more ground he has to cover. Southampton worked for Ledley because he sat very, very deep and just patrolled in front of the back four.

Employee of the month is a good example of how someone can be both a winner and a loser at the same time.

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phillanth London 12 Dec 16 3.10pm
Here is my team selection: Hennessey Tomkins - Dann - Delaney - Ward McArthur - Ledley Zaha - Cabaye - Townsend Benteke
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phillanth

London 12 Dec 16 3.10pm

Here is my team selection:

Hennessey

Tomkins - Dann - Delaney - Ward

McArthur - Ledley

Zaha - Cabaye - Townsend

Benteke

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bexleydave Barnehurst 12 Dec 16 3.18pm
Originally posted by phillanth Here is my team selection: Hennessey Tomkins - Dann - Delaney - Ward McArthur - Ledley Zaha - Cabaye - Townsend Benteke I think you're very likely to be correct with the possible difference that he'll swap McArthur and Cabaye, position-wise. Bexley Dave Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing! "The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)
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bexleydave

Barnehurst 12 Dec 16 3.18pm

Originally posted by phillanth

Here is my team selection:

Hennessey

Tomkins - Dann - Delaney - Ward

McArthur - Ledley

Zaha - Cabaye - Townsend

Benteke

I think you're very likely to be correct with the possible difference that he'll swap McArthur and Cabaye, position-wise.

Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

"The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

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Mad4palace 12 Dec 16 3.27pm
Originally posted by Username That really doesn't make any sense. The further forward he plays, the more ground he has to cover. Southampton worked for Ledley because he sat very, very deep and just patrolled in front of the back four. It worked against Southampton because they were very slow in building up the play and played a deep line, Ledley struggles against teams that press and play quickly when they have the ball. On Saturday he got dragged out wide for the 2nd and beaten for pace by Livermore for the 3rd. Neither he or Cabaye are reliable in those 2 sitting midfielder roles. Going forward he is at least good in the air and he does play neat one-two's that can trigger attacks.
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Mad4palace

12 Dec 16 3.27pm

Originally posted by Username

It worked against Southampton because they were very slow in building up the play and played a deep line, Ledley struggles against teams that press and play quickly when they have the ball. On Saturday he got dragged out wide for the 2nd and beaten for pace by Livermore for the 3rd. Neither he or Cabaye are reliable in those 2 sitting midfielder roles. Going forward he is at least good in the air and he does play neat one-two's that can trigger attacks.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 12 Dec 16 3.31pm
Originally posted by Username That really doesn't make any sense. The further forward he plays, the more ground he has to cover. Southampton worked for Ledley because he sat very, very deep and just patrolled in front of the back four. Ledley really should play as an out and out defensive midfielder. Cabaye and McArthur fulfilling the more central midfield roles (Cabaye is an excellent interceptor of the ball, and McArthur has an all round midfield quality). Cabaye also can spit out a good diagional pass to Zaha and (Probbaly) Townsend, so they can hit the ball at full pace - something Ledley isn't great at. Cabaye is too 'light' to be a full on defensive midfield. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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jamiemartin721

Reading 12 Dec 16 3.31pm

Originally posted by Username

Ledley really should play as an out and out defensive midfielder. Cabaye and McArthur fulfilling the more central midfield roles (Cabaye is an excellent interceptor of the ball, and McArthur has an all round midfield quality). Cabaye also can spit out a good diagional pass to Zaha and (Probbaly) Townsend, so they can hit the ball at full pace - something Ledley isn't great at.

Cabaye is too 'light' to be a full on defensive midfield.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 12 Dec 16 3.36pm
Originally posted by Mad4palace It worked against Southampton because they were very slow in building up the play and played a deep line, Ledley struggles against teams that press and play quickly when they have the ball. On Saturday he got dragged out wide for the 2nd and beaten for pace by Livermore for the 3rd. Neither he or Cabaye are reliable in those 2 sitting midfielder roles. Going forward he is at least good in the air and he does play neat one-two's that can trigger attacks. Defensive midfielders aren't generally quick players. They need to be sturdy, good in the air, and able to anticipate the game, rather than rely on pace. Jedi and KG together were unbelievably good defensive partnership (and even solo Jedi was a class act in DM). Same went for Shaun Derry. The good DM doesn't run, he covers space to protect the back four. You win balls in the air, put people under pressure, make tackles and when necessary take the player out. You don't have to make fancy passes, score goals - Your job is solely about choking the other team. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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jamiemartin721

Reading 12 Dec 16 3.36pm

Originally posted by Mad4palace

Defensive midfielders aren't generally quick players. They need to be sturdy, good in the air, and able to anticipate the game, rather than rely on pace. Jedi and KG together were unbelievably good defensive partnership (and even solo Jedi was a class act in DM).

Same went for Shaun Derry. The good DM doesn't run, he covers space to protect the back four. You win balls in the air, put people under pressure, make tackles and when necessary take the player out. You don't have to make fancy passes, score goals - Your job is solely about choking the other team.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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Beanyboysmd 12 Dec 16 4.03pm
Originally posted by Woolsy Hennessey Ward Delaney Dann Tomkins Zaha Ledley Cabaye Fryers McArthur Benteke Edited by Woolsy (12 Dec 2016 12.47pm) Edited by Woolsy (12 Dec 2016 1.13pm) The more I look at this squad, the less I hate it! :-)
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12 Dec 16 4.03pm