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View spartakev2's Profile spartakev2 Flag Anerley 15 Dec 16 2.18pm Send a Private Message to spartakev2 Add spartakev2 as a friend

Middlesbrough, Swansea, Hull and Sunderland.
Middlesborough just came up and really struggling to score goals.
Hull just came up and have a 1st team squad of about 13.
Swansea who
Have all sorts of internal problems and an American manager who is clueless.
Sunderland who have been in a relegation battle for thd last few seasons.
Meanwhile WBA, Watford, Bournemouth all doing well, with what you could argue are worse players than we have. Even burnley are doing better than us.
And still people are sticking up for Pardew.....shocking.

 

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View smelkus's Profile smelkus Flag Nebraska 15 Dec 16 2.29pm Send a Private Message to smelkus Add smelkus as a friend

If we could have just closed out Burnley, Swansea and Hull we would be sitting in the top ten next to Man U. Fine margins and all that. These injuries are unfair at this point. When Pards played a 4-4-2 with Wickham and Tekkers up front I was starting to think he was on to something and then Connor goes out for season. We have had plenty of bad luck and injuries. Pards has made loads of calls wrong, but some have been good. He is too arrogant to really reflect on it all though.

 

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View Bangell's Profile Bangell Flag Oxford 15 Dec 16 3.11pm Send a Private Message to Bangell Add Bangell as a friend

Originally posted by smelkus

If we could have just closed out Burnley, Swansea and Hull we would be sitting in the top ten next to Man U. Fine margins and all that. These injuries are unfair at this point. When Pards played a 4-4-2 with Wickham and Tekkers up front I was starting to think he was on to something and then Connor goes out for season. We have had plenty of bad luck and injuries. Pards has made loads of calls wrong, but some have been good. He is too arrogant to really reflect on it all though.

We concede late goals and throw away leads with such consistency that we're past the point of saying 'fine margins', 'bad luck' etc - we have to recognise that it's a fundamental problem with our set-up rather than something that happens to everyone occasionaly.

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 15 Dec 16 3.59pm

Originally posted by smelkus

If we could have just closed out Burnley, Swansea and Hull we would be sitting in the top ten next to Man U. Fine margins and all that. These injuries are unfair at this point. When Pards played a 4-4-2 with Wickham and Tekkers up front I was starting to think he was on to something and then Connor goes out for season. We have had plenty of bad luck and injuries. Pards has made loads of calls wrong, but some have been good. He is too arrogant to really reflect on it all though.

True, but out of those three we took 1 point, where we had to really look to be taking 5 points minimum. We also scored 9 goals in those three games, against teams that struggle to score, let alone win games. Burnley, I can live with, they're very good at home. But the other two, scoring 7 goals in two games, and getting 1 point is very poor. Doing it against a Swansea side and Hull side that struggled to score more than one a game is unforgivable.

We need a proper defensive midfielder and a full back - probably a centre back as well. Plus we are very reliant on Beneteke, who is really our only fit striker. If he gets crocked we are proper f**ked.

If we can keep Flamini fit, that'll really go a long way to helping. We looked so different defensively first half against united.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 15 Dec 16 4.00pm

Originally posted by Bangell

We concede late goals and throw away leads with such consistency that we're past the point of saying 'fine margins', 'bad luck' etc - we have to recognise that it's a fundamental problem with our set-up rather than something that happens to everyone occasionaly.

We did the same thing last night, only the linesman saved us. Minutes after scoring, the ball was in the back of the net. At best that was toes offside...

 


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Originally posted by spartakev2

Middlesbrough, Swansea, Hull and Sunderland.
Middlesborough just came up and really struggling to score goals.
Hull just came up and have a 1st team squad of about 13.
Swansea who
Have all sorts of internal problems and an American manager who is clueless.
Sunderland who have been in a relegation battle for thd last few seasons.
Meanwhile WBA, Watford, Bournemouth all doing well, with what you could argue are worse players than we have. Even burnley are doing better than us.
And still people are sticking up for Pardew.....shocking.

I doubt they have worse starters than us. If they could, I doubt WBA, Watford and Bournemouth would take any players from us bar Benteke, Zaha maybe MacArthur. Maybe Cabaye and Townsend if they haven't watched their recent form. Each of those teams have 6 or more players I wouldn't mind having.
They have bought pretty well, but more importantly they've stayed pretty healthy.

 

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 17 Dec 16 1.18am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by smelkus

If we could have just closed out Burnley, Swansea and Hull we would be sitting in the top ten next to Man U. Fine margins and all that. These injuries are unfair at this point. When Pards played a 4-4-2 with Wickham and Tekkers up front I was starting to think he was on to something and then Connor goes out for season. We have had plenty of bad luck and injuries. Pards has made loads of calls wrong, but some have been good. He is too arrogant to really reflect on it all though.

and West Ham, this is going to be a long and unenjoyable season

 


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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag Portishead 17 Dec 16 8.10am Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by smelkus

If we could have just closed out Burnley, Swansea and Hull we would be sitting in the top ten next to Man U. Fine margins and all that. These injuries are unfair at this point. When Pards played a 4-4-2 with Wickham and Tekkers up front I was starting to think he was on to something and then Connor goes out for season. We have had plenty of bad luck and injuries. Pards has made loads of calls wrong, but some have been good. He is too arrogant to really reflect on it all though.

All premiership managers are bull headed and arrogant. Why should pardew be any different?

Otherwise I agree your points. Sadly, most of the posters on here see pardew out ... And then their brains run out and they have to have a lie down.

 

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View spartakev2's Profile spartakev2 Flag Anerley 17 Dec 16 10.02am Send a Private Message to spartakev2 Add spartakev2 as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

All premiership managers are bull headed and arrogant. Why should pardew be any different?

Otherwise I agree your points. Sadly, most of the posters on here see pardew out ... And then their brains run out and they have to have a lie down.

And of course no other team has injuries, bad luck, bad refereeing decisions.....just us, poor pardew, must think he's been cursed for 2016. Let's hope the curse is lifted for 2017. Now going for a lie down, my head hurts.

 

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Inapickle Flag South West 17 Dec 16 10.17am

..goal diff says everything you need to know.

 

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Inapickle Flag South West 17 Dec 16 11.12am

..through bad luck and unfortunate silly moments with points lost (unfairly considering how the players tried and actually performed) in the last moments we could very easily at this moment have another four points, that would make us very mid table and all this sad talk would have no meaning, we are being very silly over the sake of four points...
1, Everton away, game ruined against us by wrongly awarding direct free kick and then a contentious disallowed off-side that very easily could have been awarded.
2, West Ham home, Benteke could very easily have scored three, should have got one from the spot.

Four points, putting us below Stoke very mid table.

 

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Inapickle Flag South West 17 Dec 16 11.16am

Originally posted by spartakev2

Middlesbrough, Swansea, Hull and Sunderland.
Middlesborough just came up and really struggling to score goals.
Hull just came up and have a 1st team squad of about 13.
Swansea who
Have all sorts of internal problems and an American manager who is clueless.
Sunderland who have been in a relegation battle for thd last few seasons.
Meanwhile WBA, Watford, Bournemouth all doing well, with what you could argue are worse players than we have. Even burnley are doing better than us.
And still people are sticking up for Pardew.....shocking.

..when in your eyes did the season finish?

Edited by Inapickle (17 Dec 2016 11.17am)

 

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