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View Mad4palace's Profile Mad4palace Flag 05 Feb 17 12.16am Send a Private Message to Mad4palace Add Mad4palace as a friend

With the rot fully settled into the old players, many of them being present in the team for the last 13 months of awful form, it must be time for quite a few of them to spend some time away from the first XI. With new signings relatively untainted by the sides low confidence, should we be trying to field a team a bit more like this?

Mandanda
Ward - Dann - Sakho - Van Aanholt
Zaha - McArthur - Milivojevic - Schlupp
Benteke - Remy

With the new signings, plus Remy you have 5 out of your 11 players that have not played through the awful last year.

Mandanda, when he returns should be relatively unscathed compared to Hennessey. McArthur and Zaha are the only players that have been in form for the past year, so they keep their place. Benteke can still notch a goal up front. Ward and Dann keep their place only by virtue of there being no one else to come in in their positions.

Flamini and Campbell are probably more unscathed by the awful form too, so might be worth giving them more time.

 

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View bifffabazz's Profile bifffabazz Flag Highworth, Wiltshire 05 Feb 17 12.20am Send a Private Message to bifffabazz Add bifffabazz as a friend

Worth a try. But the Gods that are Hennessy, Puncheon and Cabaye are surely immovable?

 


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View FairweatherEagle's Profile FairweatherEagle Flag London 05 Feb 17 12.26am Send a Private Message to FairweatherEagle Add FairweatherEagle as a friend

Not a bad idea, would need a run of games to gain familiarity though. Also Townsend's been pretty decent lately so I'd be tempted to rotate with Schlupp and Zaha. We do need fresh (and competent) legs in midfield though, and I would bed in Milivojevic asap, we need him desperately IMO. Especially after today.

 

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View Mad4palace's Profile Mad4palace Flag 05 Feb 17 12.44am Send a Private Message to Mad4palace Add Mad4palace as a friend

Originally posted by FairweatherEagle

Not a bad idea, would need a run of games to gain familiarity though. Also Townsend's been pretty decent lately so I'd be tempted to rotate with Schlupp and Zaha. We do need fresh (and competent) legs in midfield though, and I would bed in Milivojevic asap, we need him desperately IMO. Especially after today.


Midfield is the heart of our problems. I'm astonished that Ledley is still being fielded at all, he shouldn't even be on the bench. Milivojevic HAS to work, otherwise I can't see any other outcome other than relegation. A 4-4-2 with 2 solid defensive midfielders and 2 up front would make us a much more stable outfit IMO. I rate Flamini based off what i've seen so I don't know why he and Milivojevic couldn't work in midfield if we had pace out wide and 2 up front.

I want 3 at the back to be an option but I have my doubts about Tomkins and Ward on that right side. Tomkins has been a serious disappointment this season and was at fault for at least 2 of their goals.

Certainly players like Hennessey, Ledley, Puncheon have to be taken out of the spotlight for a while.

 

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View EverOptimisticEagle's Profile EverOptimisticEagle Flag 05 Feb 17 7.00am Send a Private Message to EverOptimisticEagle Add EverOptimisticEagle as a friend

Originally posted by Mad4palace

With the rot fully settled into the old players, many of them being present in the team for the last 13 months of awful form, it must be time for quite a few of them to spend some time away from the first XI. With new signings relatively untainted by the sides low confidence, should we be trying to field a team a bit more like this?

Mandanda
Ward - Dann - Sakho - Van Aanholt
Zaha - McArthur - Milivojevic - Schlupp
Benteke - Remy

With the new signings, plus Remy you have 5 out of your 11 players that have not played through the awful last year.

Mandanda, when he returns should be relatively unscathed compared to Hennessey. McArthur and Zaha are the only players that have been in form for the past year, so they keep their place. Benteke can still notch a goal up front. Ward and Dann keep their place only by virtue of there being no one else to come in in their positions.

Flamini and Campbell are probably more unscathed by the awful form too, so might be worth giving them more time.


I have been thinking the same thing. Ringing wholesale changes could be the only option left. Couldn't do any worse.

 

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View meatpienz's Profile meatpienz Flag brisbane 05 Feb 17 7.27am Send a Private Message to meatpienz Add meatpienz as a friend

Are Milivojevic and Schlupp available for Stoke?

 


Zaha has some green grass in front of him here. Finds Ambrose
not a bad effort ooooooooooh! what a goal by Darren Ambrose absolutely stunning strike!!! And, Crystal Palace lead @ Old Trafford.

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View bexleydave's Profile bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 05 Feb 17 9.02am Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

Originally posted by Mad4palace

With the rot fully settled into the old players, many of them being present in the team for the last 13 months of awful form, it must be time for quite a few of them to spend some time away from the first XI. With new signings relatively untainted by the sides low confidence, should we be trying to field a team a bit more like this?

Mandanda
Ward - Dann - Sakho - Van Aanholt
Zaha - McArthur - Milivojevic - Schlupp
Benteke - Remy

With the new signings, plus Remy you have 5 out of your 11 players that have not played through the awful last year.

Mandanda, when he returns should be relatively unscathed compared to Hennessey. McArthur and Zaha are the only players that have been in form for the past year, so they keep their place. Benteke can still notch a goal up front. Ward and Dann keep their place only by virtue of there being no one else to come in in their positions.

Flamini and Campbell are probably more unscathed by the awful form too, so might be worth giving them more time.


Irrespective of the personnel available/picked, the one thing Allardyce definitely needs to take from your suggestion is to play 4-4-fcuking2 or 4-3-3 (or at worst 4-2-3-1), because playing three at the back isn't working and it was just a fluke that we got something at Bournemouth (or we just took them by surprise). I don't give a flying fcuk that it works for Chelsea, we aren't them by a long stretch.

We have had two very good spells in the PL, Pulis' half season and Pardew's two half season's in 2015, then it all went wrong, even though we basically have the same, or considerably better personnel. Apparently we employ experts in analysis and tactics and they need to examine those good spells, figure out what we were doing right, and get back to doing it again. We have to balance solid defending with actually scoring goals; when we can do that, we'll start winning games.

 


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View bromleysteve01's Profile bromleysteve01 Flag Bromley 05 Feb 17 9.06am Send a Private Message to bromleysteve01 Add bromleysteve01 as a friend

Originally posted by Mad4palace

With the rot fully settled into the old players, many of them being present in the team for the last 13 months of awful form, it must be time for quite a few of them to spend some time away from the first XI. With new signings relatively untainted by the sides low confidence, should we be trying to field a team a bit more like this?

Mandanda
Ward - Dann - Sakho - Van Aanholt
Zaha - McArthur - Milivojevic - Schlupp
Benteke - Remy

With the new signings, plus Remy you have 5 out of your 11 players that have not played through the awful last year.

Mandanda, when he returns should be relatively unscathed compared to Hennessey. McArthur and Zaha are the only players that have been in form for the past year, so they keep their place. Benteke can still notch a goal up front. Ward and Dann keep their place only by virtue of there being no one else to come in in their positions.

Flamini and Campbell are probably more unscathed by the awful form too, so might be worth giving them more time.

Yes agree totallly with this approach and the team you suggest.
The midfield, except McArthur, have added no pace, no creativity and no defensive support and give away possession.
Subs: Townsend, Cabaye, Flamini, Lee, Speroni, Kelley, Sako

Not selected: Puncheon, Ledley, Hennessy, Delaney

 

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View Rabbit-Tooth's Profile Rabbit-Tooth Flag London 05 Feb 17 9.08am Send a Private Message to Rabbit-Tooth Add Rabbit-Tooth as a friend

No Ward please. We've no one else but I'd rather have a youth team player.

 

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View Dangermouse's Profile Dangermouse Flag Hastings 05 Feb 17 9.14am Send a Private Message to Dangermouse Add Dangermouse as a friend

Originally posted by Mad4palace

With the rot fully settled into the old players, many of them being present in the team for the last 13 months of awful form, it must be time for quite a few of them to spend some time away from the first XI. With new signings relatively untainted by the sides low confidence, should we be trying to field a team a bit more like this?

Mandanda
Ward - Dann - Sakho - Van Aanholt
Zaha - McArthur - Milivojevic - Schlupp
Benteke - Remy

With the new signings, plus Remy you have 5 out of your 11 players that have not played through the awful last year.

Mandanda, when he returns should be relatively unscathed compared to Hennessey. McArthur and Zaha are the only players that have been in form for the past year, so they keep their place. Benteke can still notch a goal up front. Ward and Dann keep their place only by virtue of there being no one else to come in in their positions.

Flamini and Campbell are probably more unscathed by the awful form too, so might be worth giving them more time.


Exactly how I feel.
All this seasons signings have to somehow make a team, if available.
Speroni
PVA
Sakho
Tomkins
Schlupp
Macca
Flamini
Luka
Zaha
Townsend
Benteke
With Remy, Kaikai, these to me should be the least tainted mentally of the lot.

Edited by Dangermouse (05 Feb 2017 9.19am)

 


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View FairweatherEagle's Profile FairweatherEagle Flag London 05 Feb 17 5.36pm Send a Private Message to FairweatherEagle Add FairweatherEagle as a friend

Agree about a midfield of Flam/Mili. The others, all the old boys you've mentioned I reckon need a chance to get fit to SA levels and prove themselves once again, but could definitely do with missing a few matches.

 

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View palacer's Profile palacer Flag Crystal Palace 05 Feb 17 7.27pm Send a Private Message to palacer Add palacer as a friend

This I think is the plan . That's why they bought them. I would rather see some youngsters come up as well.

 


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