Something is wrong at Palace, we look broken. I was at the game yesterday, at the end of the game the disconnect from the players to the fans was obvious. It must be human nature that if your continually abused and/or receive negativity at a time when you feel you need support the most you will react defensively to it all. I agree the players need to do their part by showing the commitment to the shirt, they need to lift the fans like we need to lift the players. Problem is we just don't seem to have that championship and first 2 seasons in pl spirit any longer.

So what can be done? Allardyce has not had the impact we would have expected, he's almost shell shocked by it all. The argument is that he had the same history when he joined Sunderland, losing his first 9 out of 11 or something. Hopefully this will be the case with us. I also think we desperately need the Dann and Sakho partnership and get rid of the two clowns Delaney and Tomkins, who have not shown anywhere near enough for the club in many ways!

The question is, is replacing Allardyce with 13 games left really an option, as crazy as it sounds? He hasn't lifted the players on his arrival and hasn't lifted them from this punch drunk behaviour which is resulting in us heading for the championship. All pundits and critics, non palace people, believe we have too much quality. I just feel the situation is way deeper than a quality issue. Would giving a new manager, I have no idea who, an opportunity to come in with say 10 games as an impact give us a fighting chance? Let's face it, if we do go down Sam won't be with us anyway.

In all honesty I'm not overly advocating a change in Manager, I just wondered what the general consensus was if It was agreed that Sam just has not worked out, it's been a mistake for him and us. Do we cut our loses and take a gamble on someone else hoping for a reaction? What do we have to lose? We are sinking without a trace.

Edited by MonsterMunch (12 Feb 2017 2.17am)

Edited by MonsterMunch (12 Feb 2017 2.42am)

When the players were all on a similar wage we had unity, spirit and commitment now we allegedly have Benteke on £120k a week, Cabaye on £82k. Not so bad if they are earning their money but they are not and this alone must cause resentment. Add to this the desparity in wages with Zaha allegedly on £40k and you have trouble. This is where I believe our problems lie and have steadily grown over the past year.
If we go down and it's by no means over yet we need IMO a clear out of the under achievers including the first two above and get back to a level playing field and with it wages parity. This will then hopefully see a return to a proper team with the required spirit so clearly lacking at present.

Bring back Brolin

Disparity with wages and signing players like Benteke and Cabaye is a massive issue. The unity, morale and team work that made us such a formidable team when compared to the sum of the parts, has gone and now we have a bunch of disinterested individuals.

Placing faith and trust in that idiot Pardew to oversee our "transition" was the start of the rot, and now we seem to be in freefall.

Selling Yala also tucked us up as he and zaha were our two most attacking threats and defensive assets by holding the ball up and keeping opposition left backs busy. Townsend just isn't the same player as Bolasie and we've lost that element to our game now.

Performers from last season and beyond... Ward, Delaney, Ledley, Punch etc have been woeful and their limitations shown up. Poor man management and Pardews and now Allardyces failure to get the most out of these average players has to be a factor here.

Under Pulis we were tight at that back, organised. closed teams down, attacked with place on the counter, had everyone playing out of their skin, knowing their role within the team and everyone at the peak of their fitness. Now we just look like a bunch of clueless headless chickens.

The problem started when parish started looking at a European place. To achieve this we bought fancy players like cabaye who changed what got us here in the first place. Pardew went for tippy tap football shipped out sperone who did absolutely nothing wrong NOTHING wrong.
Sold bolasie to make a profit whilst buying a number of players for 10 million plus who have make no impact.

Every team has a spine. We have none.
Sold our leader in jedi replaced with no one.

If Tompkins was so good you have to ask your self why did Westham get rid of him!
We buy Wickham from Sunderland, guess why they got rid!injury prone!
We loan remmie guess why we can get him, injury prone!

The whole thing has been a cock up and the team hasn't been run inteligently.

We buy a 30 million pound striker and lump the ball up to him, Murrey and gale were suited better for that style of football and I don't buy that they wouldn't do a job for us.
Bamford, who the f..k aloud that!!

Grrrrr

Edited by dannyboy1978 (12 Feb 2017 8.59am)

Edited by dannyboy1978 (12 Feb 2017 9.03am)

Genius.

Add to all the above a midfield which continually passes backwards and an expensive forward line starved of service.

Let's be clear, most of the players we have aren't playing for the club or the fans they are merely there for the money. All those on inflated salaries will be gone come summer because they won't accept pay cuts and so will those on lower fixed salaries because they'll think they are worth more than they are getting. They'll go to the teams coming up or becalmed in the lower Premiership because that's how it usually works.

BS has got to cull the lightweights and those with attitudes in the team because we're running out of time.

Denial is not just a river in Egypt