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mattteo 27 Feb 17 8.42am
Originally posted by essetwentyone Stupid question. Who said we were playing counter attack ? First half Boro just defended and we attacked until we scored. In the 2nd half Boro attacked more but their quality was poor - we defended and they couldn't break us down.We should have had 2 pens but the job was done. Next week at West Brom we will probably play counter attack and no doubt they will practice that this week. If it doesn't work then your question will be valid but not now. It's not a stupid question, but yeah, it just shows what kind of a man you are giving that answer. When you sit back and you don't get to score the second goal on the counter attack and neither get a clear chance of doing so, then it means the counter attack didn't work.
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27 Feb 17 8.42am

Originally posted by essetwentyone

Stupid question.
Who said we were playing counter attack ?
First half Boro just defended and we attacked until we scored. In the 2nd half Boro attacked more but their quality was poor - we defended and they couldn't break us down.We should have had 2 pens but the job was done.
Next week at West Brom we will probably play counter attack and no doubt they will practice that this week. If it doesn't work then your question will be valid but not now.

It's not a stupid question, but yeah, it just shows what kind of a man you are giving that answer.
When you sit back and you don't get to score the second goal on the counter attack and neither get a clear chance of doing so, then it means the counter attack didn't work.

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mattteo 27 Feb 17 8.44am
Originally posted by james03 Boro showed no real intent in the first half. Sam was determined that we kept what we had so we sat deeper. They do not have any real pace in the side to get in behind us but there was no point going all Pardew when we were 1-0 up. I thought we were always well in control of the situation. Not going all Pardew, but you have to create chances even if you sit back. 1-0 is never enough, you have to score the second goal. So many things can happen, you can conceive a goal out of nothing and then it's 1-1
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27 Feb 17 8.44am

Originally posted by james03

Boro showed no real intent in the first half. Sam was determined that we kept what we had so we sat deeper.

They do not have any real pace in the side to get in behind us but there was no point going all Pardew when we were 1-0 up.

I thought we were always well in control of the situation.

Not going all Pardew, but you have to create chances even if you sit back. 1-0 is never enough, you have to score the second goal. So many things can happen, you can conceive a goal out of nothing and then it's 1-1

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palace99 New Mills 27 Feb 17 8.59am
Originally posted by Palaceoaks I think you should get a life and be happy with a win!! a bit harsh , it's a fair question. We played an average Boro side who had the majority of the ball in the 2nd half, and that should be a concern. I'm sure you'll be the first to whinge if we lose to WBA and don't counter attack effectively. In answer to the question - we don't seem to have a No10 - Punch is not it, so Benteke is often to isolated and not overly mobile. For a front 3 Zaha and AT need to show more movement, come in off the wings etc and drag defenders around. We need someone closer to Benteke more often
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New Mills 27 Feb 17 8.59am

Originally posted by Palaceoaks

I think you should get a life and be happy with a win!!

a bit harsh , it's a fair question.

We played an average Boro side who had the majority of the ball in the 2nd half, and that should be a concern. I'm sure you'll be the first to whinge if we lose to WBA and don't counter attack effectively.

In answer to the question - we don't seem to have a No10 - Punch is not it, so Benteke is often to isolated and not overly mobile. For a front 3 Zaha and AT need to show more movement, come in off the wings etc and drag defenders around. We need someone closer to Benteke more often

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Username Horsham 27 Feb 17 9.24am
Originally posted by mattteo Not going all Pardew, but you have to create chances even if you sit back. 1-0 is never enough, you have to score the second goal. So many things can happen, you can conceive a goal out of nothing and then it's 1-1 Which we did, on several occasions. Employee of the month is a good example of how someone can be both a winner and a loser at the same time.
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Horsham 27 Feb 17 9.24am

Originally posted by mattteo

Not going all Pardew, but you have to create chances even if you sit back. 1-0 is never enough, you have to score the second goal. So many things can happen, you can conceive a goal out of nothing and then it's 1-1

Which we did, on several occasions.

Employee of the month is a good example of how someone can be both a winner and a loser at the same time.

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paperhat croydon 27 Feb 17 9.47am
Originally posted by mattteo Not going all Pardew, but you have to create chances even if you sit back. 1-0 is never enough, you have to score the second goal. So many things can happen, you can conceive a goal out of nothing and then it's 1-1 thats exactly what it would have been. Man utd, 1:1 we went all out to get the win rather than secure a point and lost it. Saturday, DESPERATE for points, we got a goal and for once we held on to it by shoring everything up. we had a few breaks and could have nailed a second at the end but hey, we scored more than they did, looked solid and bagged the points. I'd take that for the rest of the season, no problem. Job done Clinton is Clinton. I have known him for a long time, I know his mother... Simon Jordan
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croydon 27 Feb 17 9.47am

Originally posted by mattteo

Not going all Pardew, but you have to create chances even if you sit back. 1-0 is never enough, you have to score the second goal. So many things can happen, you can conceive a goal out of nothing and then it's 1-1

thats exactly what it would have been. Man utd, 1:1 we went all out to get the win rather than secure a point and lost it.

Saturday, DESPERATE for points, we got a goal and for once we held on to it by shoring everything up. we had a few breaks and could have nailed a second at the end but hey, we scored more than they did, looked solid and bagged the points. I'd take that for the rest of the season, no problem.

Job done

Clinton is Clinton. I have known him for a long time, I know his mother... Simon Jordan

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jamiemartin721 Reading 27 Feb 17 11.01am
Originally posted by mattteo in the 2nd half? First half was good in terms of pressing and possession. But counter attack didn't work and it's strange for a team consisting of Zaha, Townsend, van Aanholt etc. Any idea why? What do you guys think? Should the counter attack phase be exercised more in training? Well it kind of worked, it meant Boro couldn't over commit to the attack without opening themselves to risk, forcing them to defend space with their midfielders that otherwise would have pushed further up. The counter-attack isn't just about scoring goals and creating chances, its about forcing the opposition to commit to a reserve for protection. Also, how the f**k Jimmy Mac didn't get a penalty is beyond me. The referee and the Lino must have been tripping. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 27 Feb 17 11.01am

Originally posted by mattteo

in the 2nd half?

First half was good in terms of pressing and possession. But counter attack didn't work and it's strange for a team consisting of Zaha, Townsend, van Aanholt etc.

Any idea why? What do you guys think? Should the counter attack phase be exercised more in training?

Well it kind of worked, it meant Boro couldn't over commit to the attack without opening themselves to risk, forcing them to defend space with their midfielders that otherwise would have pushed further up.

The counter-attack isn't just about scoring goals and creating chances, its about forcing the opposition to commit to a reserve for protection.

Also, how the f**k Jimmy Mac didn't get a penalty is beyond me. The referee and the Lino must have been tripping.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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